LulzSec Offers to Take Revenge On Sega Hackers 244
An anonymous reader writes "Sega Corp joins the ranks of video game companies to be hacked in recent time with one small twist, it seems LulzSec was not behind this one. They reached to Sega's official twitter account and offered to destroy the hackers that attacked them. From the article: 'In its offer to assist Sega, the Tweet from Lulz hinted that its leaders might count themselves among a small but highly loyal group of gamers who still play on the aging Dreamcast console. "Sega - contact us," Lulz said in its Tweet to the video game developer. "We want to help you destroy the hackers that attacked you. We love the Dreamcast, these people are going down."'"
Am I the only one? (Score:2, Insightful)
Am I the only person who thinks that LulzSec is way out of line? It appalls me how much press coverage they get, and for what, exactly? Giving a lot of hard-working people a hell of a lot more grief than they deserve? LulzSec is not Anonymous, who at least pretends to have a purpose, and they shouldn't be treated as such. They are doing it purely for the "Lulz" and don't deserve any more recognition than they already gain from their twitter feed.
They will be caught eventually, and when they are, I sincerely
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It could end up that large organisations will have to pay lots of money to hire these sort of people and they will be only available to the highest bidder.
The rise of the cyber assassins. (Score:3)
I seriously doubt they will hire groups like this, but I do think they will hire cyber assassins. Follow this thinking. Here you are a multi-million dollar company and you will lose millions from their attacks. Feature like Sony, being attacked for a straight month. Governments appear too slow or retarded to be of assistance.
So enter the cyber assassin, a lone wolf who can hunt them down, probably infiltrate their ranks, counter hack them, find them and assassinate them. Frankly I am shocked it hasn't happe
dude, you just scared the shit out of me (Score:2)
jesus man, where do you get all that stuff?
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I like to write and have an active imagination? ..lol...sorry.
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I think its rather futile of a tool to catch a hacker with any talent with that. For the average Joe wanting to torrent something, its going to snap down on your balls like a steel trap. It will be good for tracking the general noob public, but even after a while, noobs will have tools to circumvent it if they want. There is other provisions and improvements that look really sexy. But if they think its going to be the silver bullet they are looking for, they have been smoking some Southern agriculture.
To be
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The old "grow weeds so you can pull them" trick? I would think that trick is about used up, and or the world has enough "weeds" on its own.
The one problem with lulz is that if you play them as a card, someone has to go down. If not, then the ball will get passed to someone who will look into it. The evidence had better be pristine as well or in this technical clime it will get picked apart. So if you find a scape goat, it can't be sloppy, and this group implies there are multiples of them, so you need multi
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You are listing about 4 or 5 things, each with inherent problems of their own. Perhaps if you scaled an operation to do this assembly line like to an entire crew of them, it might have the desired effect. Or not. The problem is it leaves them breathing to keep doing screwy things or even figure out who did it to them and then its a war of attrition.
Besides, you miss the point, like the Sony hack, that cost Sony millions of dollars I am sure. I don't know about your ideas of forgiveness, but if you do one mi
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Ah Sweet Jesus! I forgot they were fucking with EVE. I think I have mentioned that the EVE player base isn't something to fuck with. EVE evolved out of BBS's and Trade Wars, so its player base hails from computer geeks older than dirt. Old computer geeks>nubsauce scriptkiddies The math isn't looking so good for the lulz.
Re:Am I the only one? (Score:5, Insightful)
LulzSec is not Anonymous, who at least pretends to have a purpose, and they shouldn't be treated as such.
Ah yes; Because "Anonymous" says it, it must be true.
They are doing it purely for the "Lulz" and don't deserve any more recognition than they already gain from their twitter feed.
They will be caught eventually, and when they are, I sincerely hope something terrible happens to them.
Maybe, five years ago, because they released other people's data, I could be persuaded to agree with you. Now, we have the situation where most cracking is taking place in private. If LulzSec is taking advantage of a breach for the "Lulz" then someone else has already done the same for money, profit and crime. Clearly the hacker crackdown and all the associated arrests of people for public hacking have been counter-productive. Without people like Lulz, we would never really see how bad the security is in the various big companies. Sure, if they get caught they deserve a slap on the wrist, mostly for the stupdity of getting caught. The people who should be punished are the people running the companies they hack (a bit) and the people providing security and operating systems to those people (lots). I really don't see the point in punishing people just because they make a public noise about what they did.
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Mod parent up!
While I can't condone their actions, I see them as the canary in the coal mine: If we just ignore their message, China or some other country will be the next one to do it, and they'll do a *lot* worse.
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This is why I go around town knifing tires. To show how poor security is.
No, sorry, I don't buy it. I agree with the original poster - I hope something terrible happens to them. If they have the skills to do this, they could find something much better to do. Vandals don't deserve any respect or support.
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Well, let's look at the damage they have done. Sony's online gaming platform has been down for a while. EvE was under pressure. Aside of that, and maybe I have missed something, no real damage was done. A lot was compromised, but so far I can't remember a single report of a credit card that has been used illegally, I can't remember and "real" damage, real meaning monetary damage to any user of any of the services mentioned.
The only ones that actually suffered damages were companies. Companies who failed to
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There have been compromised paypal accounts due to people using the same passwords between sites, so there has been real monetary damages to some people.
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There have been compromised paypal accounts due to people using the same passwords between sites, so there has been real monetary damages to some people.
Perhaps they should use a better password. The fact is, most of us couldn't have a job if lulz security did not exist.
Who cares WHO or WHAT lulz security is? They are on a crime spree, and it most likely will result in an arms race which will be good for black and whitehats.
At the same time it needs to happen for the same reason the browser wars had to happen. Innovation will come from this and it's already starting.
Most of them probably also work in security. (Score:2)
Most hackers work in information security. If they were former hackers or current, blackhat or whitehat, there isn't a lot of difference besides that one group gets paid over the table and follows the law while the other gets paid by the black market or not at all and does not follow laws.
Like Yin and Yang they both co-exist to the benefit of each other.
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Companies ask personal informations claiming "it is safe, we are a big company, we do security stuff, give us credit card numbers, you can trust us.". Well, no, you can't, and lulzsec proves it. In an immature way, full of posture and teenage bragging, but they prove it. They are acting like assholes, but they are mostly harmless and it is a luck for us that they are not there to make a mayehem. Except on Sony, for who I can
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So can I throw a brick through your window?
Seriously it's just to show how crummy an average home's security is.
Don't punish me; punish the glass manufacturer.
Re:Am I the only one? (Score:5, Insightful)
I actually think just the opposite. The origins of the hacker spirit have long been washed away. Lulz is exposing a lot of things people don't like to hear - that all you thought was secure was in fact not at all (SQL injections anyone?). This is especially important as end-user services move to the cloud. Innovation is a result of people like Lulz forcing otherwise complacent experts to upgrade their infrastructure. We need more people like them imho. If the people who worked for these companies were so hard working Lulz wouldn't be breaking into them on an almost daily basis. I'm glad they don't have a purpose, they don't need one either. Some men just want to watch the world burn (I couldn't resist).
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I look forward to the day when, thanks to LulzSec, everyone needs to have three-factor authentication for every website and a full 20% of the cost of all goods goes towards security.
I've lived in places where everyone has bars on the windows and razor wire fences around their propert. It's not a net win for society. Read up on the Broken Window Fallacy.
The Fallacy breaks down (Score:2)
I suppose broken windows
So hire some professional hackers to stop them (Score:2)
If you don't like Lulz security hire some hackers to stop them. Actually spend the money to secure your data and your network. Most of these hackers weren't from zero-day exploits that no one knew about, but even if they were they shouldnt have been this effective.
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Anyone who has respect for these pathetic assholes deserves to be raped in prison right along side of them.
*snerk* Big words coming from an AC. The biggest problem with your righteous indignation is that point right there. Last I checked, it wasn't illegal anywhere to respect anyone. It is, however, illegal to rape someone, even in prison. So basically, because someone thinks something you don't agree with, you're wishing harm, personal violation of the most intimate sort, and an illegal act on to someone. Pretty sure that makes you either in Stalin's camp, or Hitler's.
And for the record, I do respect Lulzsec fo
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u mad.
bad things happen to those who wish bad things on others.
my mother in law celebrated when a colleage of hers was diagnosed with MS.
she's now languishing in a home, with younger-onset Alzheimer's, living a personal hell of her own neuroses, that keeps repeating over and over until the whole mess spins itself apart. i wont say she deserves it, but some would.
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bad things happen to those who wish bad things on others.
Fuck off hippy.
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If there is no skill in what they do then what does that say about the companies and organizations that they're compromising?
1) They're exposing weaknesses (some of which are irrelevant) in organizations and their security. Which if it takes no skill then what they hell are they paying the "security" guys for?
2)They're doing it in a highly visible and sensationalistic way.
I think they will accomplish more to getting IT security taken seriously than any other method to date has. I don't necessarily like th
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Right, trolling, erm I think that's you my friend. And I'd guess you're also the AC who went on a rant about how anyone who respects these folks ought to be "raped right alongside them". Last I checked, two wrong's don't make a right....
But hey, keep posting as an AC trolling this forum to hell! No skin off my back....
Also, I'd suggest dealing with your own repressed issues, because clearly you have many otherwise you wouldn't be ranting as an AC about something that is completely and utterly outside you
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This recurring prison rape fantasy is telling. Want to take seat and talk about it, or would it be more comfortable to remain standing?
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Bullshit. They brute-force some weak passwords, hunt down a few unpatched servers and use pre-written exploits on them. They aren't hackers, they're script kiddies from Anonymous.
And you don't think that makes the whole mess way worse? If it only takes script kiddies to bring down major company servers, security is in a very sorry state and needs to get patched. Sadly, no CEO will cough up any dough for it if he doesn't get to see there's a reason to.
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And that's a fallacy. You cannot legislate hackers away. Unless of course you manage to get ALL governments around the globe on board and get them to take the whole mess serious.
The internet is an international problem, local legislation means jack when the criminal isn't subject to it. So your only hope is to defend against them, police won't help you here.
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analogyfail.
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...Anonymous, who at least pretends to have a purpose, and they shouldn't be treated as such. They are doing it purely for the "Lulz"
You really don't know anything about Anonymous do you?
careful what you wish for (Score:2)
if they charge LulzSec with 50 counts of violating various laws, then those will become precedent.
it often happens in legal history that when an unpopular defendant (like a terrorist) is put on trial, some of their rights are 'bent' or 'violated', but that precedent is then used subsequently against ordinary people.
we can see this in the Thomas Drake NSA Whistleblower case. Some of the precedents used against him by the government were set in terrorism cases like the Moussaoui case... especially precedents
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That's a very frustrating aspect of precedence in the courts. Unlike most artificial learning systems, legal precedence has the result of training the courts to use the oldest ideas rather than the newest. It also has the potential to cause mistakes to be remembered more than successes ("
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LulzSec is not Anonymous, who at least pretends to have a purpose, and they shouldn't be treated as such. They are doing it purely for the "Lulz" and don't deserve any more recognition than they already gain from their twitter feed.
Back in the day, this sort of random discrimination and griefing the the lulz was exactly what Anonymous did, then it turned into some crusade for political causes. LulzSec is more like the Anonymous of yesterday than the Anonymous of today is.
Re:Am I the only one? (Score:5, Interesting)
They will be caught eventually, and when they are, I sincerely hope something terrible happens to them.
Man you should chill out a bit and keep your anger directed towards Cheney, his banker friends and the likes who actually screw you up the ass, not a bunch of teenagers playing some high-profile pranks.
Re:Am I the only one? (Score:4, Insightful)
You mean the same "banker" friends of Obama (Soros, Geitner et al)? How is that "hope and change" working for you? I've seen changes, but no hope. And dude, Cheney hasn't been in office over two years, get a new horse to ride.
Sick and tired of this, both in USA and my country (Score:5, Insightful)
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Agreed! A plague on both parties! This is the problem with US politics, the two party shuffle. Too bad the sheeple will never figure out that they are being divided and conquered. The powers behind both parties just keep picking two sides of different issues to get people fighting over so they never notice their wealth and their future are going down the drain. The same people who denounce President Obama now will, if he gets replaced with a republican, praise that one as he continues the job of rippin
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The two-party system is a symptom, not a cause. See this encyclopedia article on Duverger's Law [wikipedia.org] for a better argument than I can provide. The presence of this symptom does not imply that people are sheeple, as it is something of a prisoner's dilemma.
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sheeple is a fucking hateful word.
it implies that you believe you're the only thinking Man among the flock of brainless sheep.
which begs the question: why aren't you the fucking shepherd? what's keeping you in your proverbial Mum's basement?
it must be pretty cool to be you.
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Yeah, those same friends, too. Money has been perverting our political process since the origin of this country, and until we find a way to divorce the power the super wealthy people (and corporations that are now legally people thanks to the abomination that was the Citizens United ruling) our government will NEVER represent the will of the people.
I really don't care which side of the aisle you're on, if you're taking money from lobbyists, you're taking bribes.
Re:Am I the only one? (Score:5, Insightful)
Fuck off with your false equivalencies. Soros? Really? The only people who complain about him are the out-to-lunch right-wing conspiracy theorists regurgitating what they heard last week on Rush Limbaugh.
You want change? How about credit card companies no longer being allowed to charge outrageous fees to small business retailers, or change due dates with minimal notice and crank up interest rates when you miss them? How about increased regulation on derivatives and a bureau dedicated to protecting consumers from abusive lenders -- of course, your boys in red are doing absolutely everything they can to kill that one in the cradle.
And by the way, since when is two years so long that we should forget the immeasurable harm Cheney and Bush and the rest of those scumbags did? Hell, you fuckers were saying "it's in the past, forget about it" three months after Obama's inauguration, while simultaneously trying to blame the recession on Clinton. I'll tell you what, I'll forgive Bush and crew once we're done paying the price of his fuckups. So maybe in thirty years. If we're really lucky.
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Well I can't help but giggle at their seemingly random, no-head-and-tail string of attacks.
You have a very low threshold for comedy. If you ever watch Blackadder, make sure you were a corset.
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Man you should chill out a bit and keep your anger directed towards Cheney, his banker friends and the likes who actually screw you up the ass, not a bunch of teenagers playing some high-profile pranks.
No one is making any fine distinctions anymore between white hat and black hat. People don't care about the hacker's causes. They don't care if he is out for a laugh or going for the gold.
What they do care about is that he is getting in their way.
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keep your anger directed towards Cheney
Why? I got plenty! I'm the Rockefeller of outrage!
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Colbert, is that you? ;)
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Anon was going downhill when they got in to the whole purpose thing. Better to have stuck with being the IHM. Trying to turn a bunch of people out for lulz in to moral crusaders would make as much sense as Jimbo waking up one morning and telling Wikipedia editors that they're switching to writing erotic Star Trek fan fiction.
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You're not the only one, but Lulz and Anon are trying to create an oppressive regime of their own (perhaps unwittingly) where people are afraid to criticize their actions for fear of reprisal.
Sadly, this is completely counter to what some people believe they stand for.
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At least LulzSec admit to doing things for their own gain.
Anonymous on the other hand like to kid themselves into thinking they have a valid cause; it's seriously sad.
LulzSec are at least honest about why they do things.
I think LulzSec trolling. (Score:5, Insightful)
I think they're just trolling the media to keep their name in the headlines. And they succeeded (really, Reuters? don't you have wars you could be reporting on?).
'Wars journalists could be reporting on' (Score:5, Interesting)
This is pretty off-topic, but in reference to your statement:
I can't help but wonder the same thing. But not really related to the latest lulzseclulz in any way - I mean war reporting in general.
I'm sure most of the people here who were semi-world conscious at the time can remember Christiane Amanpour reporting from Iraq and Bosnia, but also many other war reporters in those conflicts and many before them, often risking their own lives to bring reports from the battlefield, human interest stories from both sides, etc.
But now, I keep hearing every talking head in news reports saying that 'allegedly' this-and-that happened - while a video off of youtube or something plays in the background - but that these are unconfirmed reports because they have no journalists in those countries because journalists aren't allowed into them(!)
Have the news agencies lost their proverbial backbone, or have they just gotten lazy and think the youtube videos from either side in these conflicts are 'good enough'?
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The first thing regimes like Syria do is round up the foreign journalists and either lock them up in their hotel rooms or show them the door. All those Western journalists reporting on Iraq or Afghanistan were there at the invitation, or at least the sufferance, of Western troops. Foreign journalists in places like Syria and Iran are on very short leashes at the best of times, and the minute there is the least sign of unrest they are either locked in their hotels or shown the door.
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I'm seeing the news in .au, and there are plenty of onsite reports from war zones. Try changing your news source. If you select the Sci/Tech news in Google news, you'll probably get more sci-tech-related stuff, that's how the filters work.
But journalists love that shit. Prancing around in the Green Zone wearing a flak jacket, looking badass, protected by a bunch of real soldiers. It's nice that we can get eyewitness news from these places, but we should remember that these journalists are not draftees like
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Try Al Jazeera:
"Why was he not pursued with the same urgency we pursue al-Qaeda and Taliban leaders?"
I know some people like to think of them as Al Qaeda sympathisers, but on the contrary, they're one of the best news organisations around today, and are largely quite supportive of the Western mindset. They did a great analysis on Turkey last year for example that was one of the most objective and insightful peices of journalism I've ever seen, and on TV they had a great documentary charting the Egyptian rev
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Meh, ignore that quote, it was a copy and paste fail from another comment I posted, looks like I didn't manage to properly copy over it what I properly intended:
http://english.aljazeera.net/ [aljazeera.net]
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I think LulzSec trolling
Stop the presses!
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I can't believe that someone is seriously debating the motives of a hacker group which labels itself "LulzSec".
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Because, you're Joyce DeWitt.
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Just configuration files in both cases, I believe.
As I recall, they hacked nintendo because they like them, and they wanted to make sure that they were secure.
Kind of odd, but okay.
Whatever works.
Seems to me though, that if they wanted to help... why not hack into nintendo, and then secure the os and server?
That would be funny.
All of these hacker groups have split personalities.
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The Dreamcast's early release alienated a lot of Saturn buyers who saw their console abandoned after only three years. Sega destroyed the trust, and many customers vowed never to buy sega again. That's what killed the dreamcast.
BTW wikipedia lists the DC as part of the PS2/Xbox/Gamecube generation. It was released four years after the PS1, one year ahead of PS2 and two years ahead of GC and Xbox.
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BTW wikipedia lists the DC as part of the PS2/Xbox/Gamecube generation. It was released four years after the PS1, one year ahead of PS2 and two years ahead of GC and Xbox.
If you're going to use the failed 'appeal to authority' approach in an argument, you should at least use an 'authority', not, you know, wikipedia.
If you want to question the veracity of someone else's claim, do it with evidence. You don't have to rely on Wikipedia to find that in the US, Dreamcast was released in September 1999 [cnet.com], the PlayStation 2 was released in October 2000 [cnn.com], and Xbox [cnet.com] and GameCube [cnet.com] in November 2001.
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That's not the false claim. He says "DC as part of the PS2/Xbox/Gamecube generation", which is arguably false. Commodore64love appeals to the authority that is wikipedia to put to rest an argument that has been ongoing since the release of the DC. Date of release is not the sole arbiter of what generation a console is a part of.
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Most every claim on Wikipedia is properly cited. If you can't be bothered to look up those citations, you don't understand what Wikipedia is.
Since you didn't bother, here it is:
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I can't be bothered because it is a discussion of old video game systems. Who gives a shit?
(Further, the link to Steven Kent of GameSpy/IGN isn't particularly authoritative either.)
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Where the fuck is West Richland?
Understandable... (Score:2)
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And you really need the charger as the battery life on those things was horrible. Nice unit, but the battery life was terrible.
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It was great, particularly with the TV tuner and the adapter for Master System cartridges. Yeah, battery life sucked, and the LCD screens of that era had far too much ghosting for fast-paced games. Columns was a pain for that reason.
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Priorities.. (Score:3, Informative)
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No, if you look at the logs, it's clear that the people are either not really part of lulzsecurity or are so low level that it's tantamount to hitting a hired goon when you were after the godfather.
It sounds like they were related, albeit at a low level and easily replaceable. That being said, it does appear that somebody took offense to the apparent leaked dox.
Additionally, it looks like they screwed up some of the previous doxes and had to retract them. Not saying that it means that it's fake or fraudulen
reminds me of Sopranos when Dr Melfi was raped (Score:2)
she could have told Tony who did it to her.... but the writer of the show wanted to display that there was a single character in there that had some semblance of principle, so she did not tell him.
not that its in any way comparable (Score:2)
im uhh. . shit i think i just dug myself a 5 foot hole
LOL sarcasm (Score:2)
We love the Dreamcast, these people are going down
LOL doesn't anyone else have a sarcasm detector?
If Anonymous expressed their deep manly-love of the TRS-80 Model 3 (a fine machine for its time, BTW) THEN would people get it and LOL?
I have only one word to say about this. (Score:2)
Derp.
Because that's the only word that sums all this up.
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BMO
Not going to happen (Score:4, Informative)
If LulzSec went after the culprit on their own, then it's only their necks in the noose if they get caught (revenge or no, they're still committing a crime). But if Sega contacts them, then Sega becomes complicit, and their lawyers will probably have a thing or two to say about that.
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Dreamcast, eh? (Score:2)
Dreamcast was the XBox 1. It ran a version of Windows CE.
How come these LulzSec guys keep on indirectly benefiting Microsoft? They've targeted both Sony and Nintendo (of course, they took it easy on N b/c they "Liked the N64").
I feel old, like my chief complaint against these kids is "get off my lawn," but I don't get where this generation of kids get their motivation. They seem to really care about video game companies, more than most hackers of my generation.
And like most Slashdotters, I belong to a gener
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They're not necessarily doing a disservice.
Right now the only other way that security issues come to the attention of the media is through public hostile hacks, and who knows how many of those go unreported. LulzSec is bringing a lot more attention to the problem of security, without many of the costs of more hostile hacks, on the whole I think that's a good thing.
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this, a hundred times. how many people, who used to think nothing of turning over whatever data a company asked for, are thinking a little bit about that now? there's some truly sad security practices in place where a lot of sensitive data is concerned, but nobody knew because the people who could slip through the cracks kept quiet so master wouldn't change the locks. at least with lulzsec we've got someone doling out loud public humiliation about how easy it was to sneak in through a window and rob you bli
Stop Giving Censors Amunition. (Score:3)
I think that's a good thing.
Many people think that LulzSec is has been infiltrated by the government to further a political agenda. Even if they haven't been, they are playing right into the hands of those who wish to eradicate anonymity from the Internet, and impose harsh censorship.
Just after I watched an online video wherein Hillary Clinton and others discussed the importance of forming America's Cyber Security Plan with International cooperation in mind I talked to my friends about this; Most all of them said, "What? Why do we
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I honestly haven't followed them that closely. I agree that any DDoSing they did is stupid as it doesn't really prove anything to do with security. But as for the actual hacks, while I very much dislike the actions, and they're probably not the sorts of people I'd call friends, I think they are doing a service in telling people "hey that door is not nearly as secure as you thought it was" encouraging people to either get a better lock, or at least be more careful before putting their valuables inside.
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...and making things harder on people than they need to be.
Your type of thinking is fueling this hacker craze. Your type is feeding them, encouraging them to stick around and grow.
Until you break out of this mindset that IT security is a cost that needs choked for increased next-quarter profits, security breaches will keep happening.
I'm sure those 'in the trenches' share your attitude, but you need to focus your anger and frustration back to where they belong...your PHB that makes your IT security decisions.
In essence, by blaming LulSec, you are 'shooting the mess
i hate to go all glenn beck but... (Score:2)
if you look at the history of the CIA and NSA, uhm, this is not far-fetched.
Obama now has 6 non-spy espionage act charges under his belt.
3 of those (Manning, Drake, Wikileaks) also involve the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act. Why?
Because 1030(a)(1) of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act is called 'Computer Espionage', and (a)(2) is 'exceeding authorized access' and 'obtaining information'. These are basically the same thing as the Espionage Act, but with broader language to cover more information, and more people
Drake's misdemeanor conviction (Score:2)
is actually on the CFAA (a)(2), so basically the clampdown has already started.
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20 years down the road, if the members of LulzSec were to have their bank/credit card/mortgage/investment accounts compromised, would they still find it lulzy?
Given all the media attention this sort of hacking has gotten, would it be as likely to happen?
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So uhm, Slashdot, when is LulzSec getting it's own icon? Seems to be the top favorite for news these days.
Maybe the editors figure that if LulzSec wants one, they'll just add it themselves..
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Well, they'll recognize the donut, that's for sure. And they'll probably remember seeing their parents with the mop last time they went upstairs. So I'm gonna go with yes.
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But what girls would like to meet a bunch of emo script kiddies?
"Nunchaku skills... bowhunting skills... computer hacking skills... Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills!"
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From what I've seen the actual result is to create more support for pervasive Cyber Laws so someone can throw them in jail.