Facebook Caught Exposing Millions of Credentials 159
fysdt writes "Facebook has leaked photographs, profiles and other personal information for millions of its users because of a years-old bug that overrides individual privacy settings, researchers from Symantec said. The flaw, which the researchers estimate has affected hundreds of thousands of applications, exposed user access tokens to advertisers and others. The tokens serve as a spare set of keys that Facebook apps use to perform certain actions on behalf of the user, such as posting messages to a Facebook wall or sending RSVP replies to invitations. For years, many apps that rely on an older form of user authentication turned over these keys to third parties, giving them the ability to access information users specifically designated as off limits."
They're still operating ... (Score:2)
Dog Bites Man, News at Eleven. (Score:5, Insightful)
Somebody needs to take a refresher course in "What is this 'news" thing, anyway?" Something that happens with utter predictability and regularity, like a dog biting a man, is never really news. But if a man were to bite a dog, or Facebook was caught protecting user information, then that would be news.
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While what you say is true, there is still value in being reminded that such evils still exist in the world, rather than becoming bored and sweeping them under the rug.
"Publicity is justly commended as a remedy for social and industrial diseases. Sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants; electric light the most efficient policeman."
~ Justice Louis Brandeis, 1914
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Somebody needs to take a refresher course in "What is this 'news" thing, anyway?" Something that happens with utter predictability and regularity, like a dog biting a man, is never really news. But if a man were to bite a dog, or Facebook was caught protecting user information, then that would be news.
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She's dead. And cremated. A bit chalky, don't you think?
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More likely, they don't care.
The few that do expect privacy will see this, have a momentary sense of outrage, and then forget about it.
They'll continue to use facebook because they're really not all that concerned about their privacy. At most Facebook may make a statement about how they're continually improving security, and then it will be business as usual.
Re:They're still operating ... (Score:5, Insightful)
I find this wrong (obviously), but at least in my personal case, I assume that everything I ever put on FB is there for the entire world to see, regardless of my own privacy settings.
I care about my privacy...I just don't see Facebook as even remotely "private"
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Ha, if you post anything to Facebook that you wouldn't post on your old skool Geocities public website or whatever, then you fail the internets.
People look at Zuckerberg like he's some kind of freak that doesn't respect privacy. And he's looking back at a whole bunch of people complaining that the stuff that they posted on the internet... is out on the internet.
If you really want to share something secret, use hushmail or something. Facebook, OTOH, is all about syndication... letting your personal though
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I feel like we have this exact same conversation every time Facebook is mentioned. It would be really interesting to cross section the first 10 posts of every Facebook related submissions.
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Re:They're still operating ... (Score:5, Funny)
I don't have any facebook apps installed. not a one.
I don't answer any surveys or take any polls.
I painstakingly go through every privacy setting and set to "friends only".
I post as little truly personal information as possible. No phone number, no address, no high school, college, or place of current employment, none of it.
and I'm still pretty sure that facebook has still somehow probably derived all of my info down to my underwear color, porn preferences, and whether I ate lucky charms for dinner last night, and sold that to advertisers.
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Ditto. No apps, no invites, no surveys, I ignore those stupid "Someone answered a question about you" yada yada yada. Half my personal data is false, the other half misleading. And, I still don't really expect privacy. Like yourself, I'm sure Facebook has sold everything that's on my page, and knows who I am based on the people I know. Phhht.
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and I'm still pretty sure that facebook has still somehow probably derived all of my info down to my underwear color, porn preferences, and whether I ate lucky charms for dinner last night, and sold that to advertisers.
If you start seeing sidebar ads for Tin Foil Hats, THAT'S when I'd be concerned.
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That said, unless this one gets picked up by the major networks, most users will remain unaware of it. Geeks like us, followed by news junkies, followed by everyone else (especially kids and adolescents) make up a scale from intense awareness to utter cluelessness re: Facebook's privacy practices.
Re:They're still operating ... (Score:4, Funny)
The other side of the basement is neither, and, let's face it, you aren't going to climb the stairs over this.
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Until people get bitten by personal information being leaked to the wrong people, they will not care about their privacy. If your private photos get leaked to your employer and there are allusions or consequences that embarrass you, you might get mad enough about it to stop using the service. If they get leaked to faceless corporations that will crunch the data to suck as much money as possible out of you and your friends with targeted advertising, the connection is fuzzy, remote, indirect, and it is unlike
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"If they get leaked to faceless corporations that will crunch the data to suck as much money as possible out of you and your friends with targeted advertising, the connection is fuzzy, remote, indirect, and it is unlikely you will care at all. "
Up until you then show them their purchases using said targetted advertising and then say in big old-school letters "Data! Yum!"
Dammit, it's neck and neck now, web 2.0 is almost over. We're into Web 3.0 soon, with the privacy invasions assisted by .gov, but (soon I h
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Uh-huh - a social network. Much like a local area network. You'll have no objection if I browse my way through your local area network, will you?
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Thanks a lot Mark.... (Score:1)
Are you sure you want to unfriend Mark Zuckerberg? (Yes/No)
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In Soviet Russia Mark Zuckerberg unfriends you!
Already Resolved? (Score:1)
Meh.. (Score:2, Insightful)
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Where are my mod points?!?
I have actually started deleting people who post a lot of stuff in a short amount of time. If you have to post every thought that passes through you're head I have no interest in knowing you.
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Re:Meh.. (Score:5, Funny)
FB is overrated anyway. And waay too many people use it as if it were their Twitter account.
The big downside to Facebook around here is that it requires friends.
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FB is overrated anyway. And waay too many people use it as if it were their Twitter account.
The big downside to Facebook around here is that it requires friends.
You keep using that word, "friends", in the context of Facebook. I don't think it means what you think it means.
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Actually it does mean what I think it means. The difference is that I have actual friends on my list instead of collecting confirmations like they're Pokemon.
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FB is overrated anyway. And waay too many people use it as if it were their Twitter account.
Uh, FB as Twitter? My apologies, I was unaware that I was polishing that FB turd the wrong way. Should I polish it in the same counterclockwise direction that the Twitter software spells out in it's specifications, or is this location-dependent? I am north of the equator.
Translation: Facebook...Twitter...it's all the same shit
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Like the fact that they just got a hamburger and it was tasty
This makes me hungry.
Re:Meh.. (Score:4, Funny)
I'd like to make a new service called Twatter. That way, when you send out a messages, your Twatting, and an individual message is a Twat.
Re:Meh.. (Score:5, Funny)
The Zen way. You stand by instead of using it, and watch with compassion how the rest of humanity does something really stupid.
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"watch with compassion how the rest of humanity does something really stupid" because someday, you may need to do something really stupid!
Re:Meh.. (Score:4, Insightful)
Treat it as if it is a giant billboard hovering above the earth that every single human being on the planet can see and read.
I use FB to keep up with a large number of poeple scattered around the globe that I gave a shit about. It is a casual way to be a part of the life of people I care about that I can't be close to.
I don't post pictures, play games, use apps, say stupid shit about my boss/employer, etc. People that do deserve to have their personal shit posted around the globe.
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What are you, a rap video?
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Not that I disagree, but tell me what is the "proper" way the use FaceBook?
Don't
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I use Facebook to keep in touch with patients and other health care professionals (chiropractors, homeopaths, acupuncturists, etc.)
Let me fix that for you ....
I use Facebook to keep in touch with patients and other quacks and dispensers of expensive placebos that have absolutely no scientific evidence to back their efficacy (chiropractors, homeopaths, acupuncturists, etc.)
There you go ....
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Hey that homeopathic stuff is pretty cool. Guaranteed by them to have almost absolutely nothing in them.
To every only of those homeopathic con men I would love to sell some homeopathic gold.
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*poke*
Is he a troll? I can't tell. He's so life-like.
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You are trolling right?
Chiropractors, homeopaths, acupuncturists, etc are "health care professionals" while science is quackery "vaccine pushers, big pharma, etc".
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It means that they are broadcasting to the whole world -- which is the whole point of Twitter since "following" is non-symmetric and Twitter user streams are (usually) public. That behavior is not really appropriate on Facebook, since you can't broadcast to the world unless it has "friended" you back and Facebook user walls are (usually) private. All you achieve is spamming your friends.
Facebook should be fined. (Score:5, Interesting)
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There should be a law requiring a fine for each user who's personal information is compromised as a result of bugs like this.
Well, that would kill the internet pretty quickly, so it would certainly solve the problem I suppose.
Re:Kill the Internet (Score:2)
Watch out when Copyright Superclick comes into law. By that I mean the various forms of the laws that would make streaming/accessing/viewing anything not the authorized source into a crime.
I am floating the proposal that we make personal information just as prickly as copyrighted work. Then if Z had to pay $875,000 per shared profile times 20 million profiles he would wake up.
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Many of us had websites that didn't have to prostitute personal data to stay around and we still don't
Except, we're not talking about selling private information to unauthorized 3rd parties (though based on the ToS you sign to use most sites, it's probably impossible for them to do so as "unauthorized 3rd parties" as such don't exist). We're talk (in the GP and TFS) about bugs that cause data to be disclosed. And the logical extension would be to extend it to parties like Sony whose lack security standards put user data at risk.
If you put companies on the hook (to a serious degree per user) for any accide
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Yeah right. If they don't fine companies for exposing people's credit card numbers and SSNs, there's no way they're going to do it for exposing someone's DOB or address (which are generally public information to begin with).
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Yeah, and so is your name. HIPAA doesn't have anything to do with whether something's public or private or not. It's legislation surrounding your medical records.
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if that where so - any company with half a brain would realize it would be cheaper to relocate to another country (that would love to have them)
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That's a very good idea. Something like PCI requirements, but for personal information.
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From what has been seen of Zuckerberg's ethics, I'd say it's just about even money that this was a completely intentional feature to help get his advertising buddies all that juicy demographic info they pay him so well for.
I think the OP's point was: "there should be a law."
However, the people most agitated by this are too busy reading Slashdot to make a phone call.
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You assume that this was a bug. From what has been seen of Zuckerberg's ethics, I'd say it's just about even money that this was a completely intentional feature to help get his advertising buddies all that juicy demographic info they pay him so well for.
Ah, but if they got the info without paying for it, Zuckerberg would certainly consider it a bug. Probably the highest-priority kind of bug.
Join the crowd (Score:2)
Re:Join the crowd (Score:5, Funny)
I thought we wanted to fix the problem.
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He made the common mistake of equating "doing something about" with solving the problem of.
This study was delayed (Score:5, Funny)
Researchers note that they would have released this study much sooner, but their PCs were hamstrung by Norton Internet Security.
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Your post wins for funniest.
Bound to happen (Score:3, Interesting)
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I bet you'd have no problem finding security flaws in Commodore 64's GEOS. Or KolibriOS. It's so frickin' small that it's humanly possible to scan every line of code for security holes.
Which is the key I think - software needs to be less bloated, so it's easier to debug.
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I bet you'd have no problem finding security flaws in Commodore 64's GEOS.
No doubt. I'm sure it would be even easier to find security flaws in a 1KB ZX81 program, but you're not going to be able to write anything that'll even begin to meet Facebook's server requirements in something of comparable size to either, so it's a pointless example.
Anyway, people hold up 8-bit code as a paragon of efficiency all the time. And it was... as far as it went. But 8-bit programs were generally very limited in what they could do, and it's impractical to use that design style for larger, more m
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>>>people hold up 8-bit code
Kolibri OS is not 8 bit mister "I don't read before replying" or use his brain. It's 32 bit, fits on a floppy, and is perfectly capable of running a facebook server. And therefore is easy to find security holes.
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Kolibri OS is not 8 bit mister "I don't read before replying" or use his brain.
What makes your childish reponse more laughable and ironic is that if *you'd* been paying attention, you'd notice that the section quoted did not include mention of the Kolibri OS, because I wasn't replying to that, but specifically the part about the 8-bit Commodore 64. Is that clear enough for you "mister"?!
That said, I *did* investigate Kolibri OS after you mentioned it. Regardless of how tightly it is coded, or how suitable it would be for running Facebook's server code, it does *not* follow that beca
Re:Bound to happen (Score:4, Funny)
"Software is too large to find and fix everything."
That's what Sony said.
It's not a bug, it's a feature (Score:2, Funny)
Working as intended
Did the attackers leave their name and address? (Score:2)
Use this thread (Score:5, Funny)
to make a self-righteous post about how you don't use Facebook, and anyone who does is stupid.
Use this sub-thread (Score:2)
to make a self-righteous post about how you don't use Windows, and anyone who does is stupid.
The lions. I beard them.
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I don't use Windows (except when it's appropriate to do so), and people who use it (without critically assessing their own needs from an OS and making an informed decision) are stupid.
As for Facebook...it's just stupid. I stopped using it and deactivated my account.
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I don't use Facebook. However I know several people who use it who are seriously hot (the fact that most of these people are stupid is out of scope to the point I was making).
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I don't use Facebook, and anyone who does is stupid.
Anonymous Coward isn't safe either. (Score:1)
Your writing style will get you tracked. I remember when trolling a few years ago that someone guessed what ISP I was using.due to cross checks on multiple sites. If you are alive, your atoms will be tracked.
Poisoning the well (Score:4, Interesting)
I assume Facebook is being back-doored by the feds, assume they sell information to advertisers, so the only difference here is that it was unintentional. So I keep my FB profile loaded with inaccurate, out of date information. Just seems like the best way to hide a tree is in a forest of misleading information.
Privacy thoughts (Score:1)
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Absolutely right, Bob Walcott of 5098 Clay Street, Denver Colorado 80601, height 5 ft 8 weight 280 lbs, favorite soft drink coca-cola mixed with green koolaid, recently married until dinosaur pr0n collection discovered by wife.
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Link or it didn't happen...the Dino Pron, I could care less about Bob Walcott.
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So mixing Coca-cola and green koolaid is true?
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Google it your own damn self. Yes, it's out there. No, I didn't follow the links.
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Of course you do, don't be daft.
Just bear in mind privacy is about relationships.
Hmmm... (Score:1)
Am I the only one that read this as "Facebook Caught Exposing Itself"?
Facebook shocked, *shocked* at privacy breaches (Score:5, Funny)
Facebook staff have been amazed to discover [newstechnica.com] that when Facebook passes users' complete details to application developers and advertisers like candy, some of the partner companies might accidentally let slip the information in some manner.
"We are appalled at this information leak," said Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg as he took a break from his personal RSS feed of drunk women's tits posted to his service. "But I can assure you that we have sternly suggested to everyone involved that they take somewhat greater care not to get caught, and maintain a serious demeanor when rolling around in the great big pit filled with money in their basement."
"I'm horrified and outraged," said office worker Brenda Busybody, 43 (IQ), "that stuff I put on the Internet is on the Internet. It violates everything I expect. I want privacy when I'm calling my boss a useless fuckstick to the entire world, all my coworkers and my boss himself. And when I'm playing a bit of FarmVille before we nick off down the pub."
Privacy advocates are working on Diaspora, a security-enhanced social network so far populated by Linux users who cryptographically sign every update about which episode of Babylon 5 they just finished watching alone in their parents' basement. "START PGP KEY BLOCK!" said open source software advocate Hiram Nerdboy, 17. "WE WILL PROTECT YOUR FREEDOMS!" The next version of Diaspora will allow users to list more than three friends, should there be any demand whatsoever for such a feature.
Facebook works on the now-standard "Web 2.0” business model: 1. Brutally sodomise the personal privacy of anyone who comes within a mile of your service and say "hey baby, I'm sorry" every time you're busted. 2. Sell ads.
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You're right. I should have included something about showering.
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... Bother. You are, sir, 100% correct. Someone upvote parent.
That's Progress (Score:2)
BTW, there is a benefit to falsifying everything about yourself on your Fa
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BTW, there is a benefit to falsifying everything about yourself on your Facebook page.
Doesn't stop your sister posting "Hey brother why haven't you responded to my family request??"
Obligatory XKCD (Score:3)
Business Model (Score:2)
Isn't Facebook's entire valuation based on violating user privacy? The ad piece of the business probably pales in comparison to being able to "accidentally" expose thoroughly mined and indexed personal information. It is probably the same thing for Zygna, the world's highest grossing "GAME" company, slowly recycling Pavlov's finest experiments.
Turn off Facebook "apps" (Score:2)
Go to Facebook -> Account -> Apps and Web Sites -> Edit Your Settings ->Apps You Use -> Turn Off Platform Apps.
Even that doesn't stop everything. Go to Account-> Privacy Settings -> Block LIsts. This is where you see the list of apps you've blocked from contacting you when run by others. But you can't actually block anything from there. You have to find the Facebook page of the annoying app (for example, FarmVille [facebook.com]) and then click on "Block App". Now, no more annoying Farmville messag
Comment from Facebook Developer Relations (Score:2)
Facebook Caught Exposing Millions of Credentials (Score:1)
you get what you pay for (Score:1)
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Look, we all know that Mark Zuckerburg is an incubus. I mean, this was revealed in one of the extra scenes from the Ridley Scott cut of the Social Network, where Zuckerburg dances naked in his room eating blood, feces and strawberry sherbet before sodomizing his couch. The transformation is stunning, really quite well done, without the usual crap CGI we've come to expect from films like The Social Network (although I did think the scene where Sean Parker disembowels the President of France went far beyond
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He's worse than an incubus.
He's a fucking suit.
And he doesn't have nearly enough facial scars. Someone needs to get working on that.
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Why are they responsible? They are a company and they want to make money. Which is reasonable me thinks.
You choose to use the services of FB and the likes. So you are responsible. You are responsible for the choices you make in life.
If you care about your privacy, then stop putting all your personal information on somebody else's website.
Facebook works on the now-standard "Web 2.0" business model: 1. Brutally sodomise the personal privacy of anyone who comes within a mile of your service and say "hey baby, I'm sorry" every time you're busted. 2. Sell ads.
If that's the new "standard", than this world is screwed up badly.
And I refuse to go along.
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