Major Battle Brewing Between French Gov't and ISPs 111
Dangerous_Minds writes "Drew Wilson has been following HADOPI (France's three strikes law) a lot lately, and the latest developments are that the French ISPs and the French government are edging closer to a full-on war over compensation. The French government apparently requested that ISPs send an invoice of the bills after a certain period of time, but the French ISPs don't feel this is good enough — probably because of worries that the compensation the government will ultimately provide won't be enough. The ISPs are demanding adequate compensation, and if the government doesn't give it to them, they simply will not hand over evidence required to enforce HADOPI law. While HADOPI demands that ISPs cooperate, speculation suggests that if the government takes ISPs to court, the ISPs will simply rely on constitutional jurisprudence to shield them from liability (translation)."
Re:Wow Brilliant (Score:5, Interesting)
They should cut out the middle man - let the content producers compensate the ISPs directly. Surely it's a small price for them to pay if it's going to prevent billions of Euros in lost sales due to piracy, it's also a short-term thing because the biggest pirates will disconnected within a couple of months.
That's not all Isps (Score:2, Interesting)
that's just one ISP ..they refuse to give for free somithing that cost them (the identity of the ip owner).
the two other major ISP are more sympatize with it , like orange who give it for free(Albanel witch was the cuturel ministre in charge of hadopie for a time and just continually ridiculize herself is now in charge of Orange comuncation or something like that ).
SFR , (Vivendi universal Subsidiary) is like Orange "pro Hadopi"
some other ISP like FDN (the oldest french isp) are against hadopi with FREE ..
Re:Gotta side with the ISPs on this one (Score:5, Interesting)
It is not necessarily unfair.
Even if I do not agree in regulating the net.
business need to deal with the unpleasant results of their business as well as making money.
The oil companies for example are not paid by the government to run safe rigs and to clean up their spills, the government forces them to do that if they want to remain in the oil business.
Hadopi scammers (Score:5, Interesting)
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100902/02075110872.shtml [techdirt.com]
This is really turning out to be a FAIL of EPIC proportions.
Re:ISPs are not police forces (Score:2, Interesting)
Banks are regulated, ISP not so much. Pass a law to regulate ISP to do such, then ALL ISP can charge the customers for the cost of doing it instead of billing the government. Then the ISPs will be happy to comply because the consumers won't have any where else to go as an alternative.