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Facebook Button is Disappearing From Websites as Consumers Demand Better Privacy (cnbc.com) 36

Until about a month ago, shoppers on Dell's website looking for a new laptop could log in using their Facebook credentials to avoid creating a new username and password. That option is now gone. Dell isn't alone. CNBC: Other big brands, including Best Buy, Ford Motor, Pottery Barn, Nike, Patagonia, Match and Amazon's video-streaming service Twitch have removed the ability to sign on with Facebook. It's a marked departure from just a few years ago, when the Facebook login was plastered all over the internet, often alongside buttons that let you sign in with Google, Twitter or LinkedIn. Jen Felch, Dell's chief digital and chief information officer, said people stopped using social logins, for reasons that include concerns over security, privacy and data-sharing.

"We really just looked at how many people were choosing to use their social media identity to sign in, and that just has shifted over time," Felch said. "One thing that we see across the industry is more and more security risks or account takeovers, whether that's Instagram or Facebook or whatever it might be, and I just think we're observing people making a decision to isolate that social media account versus having other connections to it." The disappearing login is the latest sign of Facebook's diminishing influence on the internet following more than a decade of spectacular growth. In the past year, the company's business has been beset by Apple's iOS privacy change, which made it harder to target ads, a deteriorating economy, competition from short-video service TikTok, and reputational damage after a whistleblower leaked documents showing Facebook knew of the harm caused by many of its products.

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Facebook Button is Disappearing From Websites as Consumers Demand Better Privacy

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  • Like! (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anachronous Coward ( 6177134 ) on Thursday September 08, 2022 @03:27PM (#62864273)

    Sorry.

  • by thomn8r ( 635504 ) on Thursday September 08, 2022 @03:32PM (#62864295)
    Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out; say "Hi!" to MySpace Tom for us
    • Unfortunately I think facebook has enough money that they can simply continue buying up other tech companies that are starting to succeed. Even if facebook, the social media platform that makes people unhappy, declines, the Zuckerborg machine will persist for a long time.
      • Meta Reality Labs LOST $2.8 billion last quarter. At this rate, they can only continue doing that for about another... 20 years.
  • by Rosco P. Coltrane ( 209368 ) on Thursday September 08, 2022 @03:32PM (#62864297)

    18 years too late, but he knows eventually.

  • by Frobnicator ( 565869 ) on Thursday September 08, 2022 @03:34PM (#62864305) Journal

    SSO has always had the risk. One credential that works everywhere is incredibly convenient.

    When the single credential is tightly controlled and carefully managed it can be great for easily managed security. But when use and control become lax it is a massive vulnerability. Unfortunately the masses are extremely lax.

  • The Mozilla foundation should do this. It would be an SSO that could be portable, and a great deal more trustworthy, you know, if they do not get dodgy about it.

  • People don't want their privacy raped by a Privacy Rapist.

  • by EvilSS ( 557649 ) on Thursday September 08, 2022 @03:56PM (#62864409)
    So the headline and much of the story focus on Facebook (gotta get the clicks I guess) but most of the companies mentioned are dumping all social media SSO options, not just Facebook. The reasons given by the companies seem more realistic as well: People don't want to use them, or they are confusing, with users not remembering which social media option they used to sign up with on their sites.
  • by Locke2005 ( 849178 ) on Thursday September 08, 2022 @04:01PM (#62864431)
    I always objected to Facebook being used as the universal login mechanism for the web, so I deleted my Facebook account. Then I went to work for Facebook. Guess what they REQUIRE you to have to work there? We honestly need some open source blockchain method of establishing identity on the web that isn't being milked by the Big Brother corporations for data harvesting, although I don't know how it would resolve impersonation issues.
    • We honestly need some open source blockchain method of establishing identity on the web

      So that when your identity gets stolen, you can never get it back?

      I understand why blockchain benefits things like land ownership records. I'm not sure why it benefits user logins. It seems like we have good protocols for this already, there is just a lack of universal support for protocols that include all the desired use cases; eg, both app 2FA and key 2FA

    • Well, if you are a Facebook Employee, then they have your SSN, and the game is already over.
      • Amazon is worse. They "drug test" all applicants using a saliva test. Saliva tests are not used to test for drugs, they are used to test DNA! So I strongly suspect Amazon has a DNA sample of everybody that has ever applied to work for them. As far as SSN, I am randomly contacted by several recruiters every week, who require me to supply them with SSN, birthdate, address, phone number, etc.... basically everything anybody would need to steal my identity. That worries me sometimes!
  • by bustinbrains ( 6800166 ) on Thursday September 08, 2022 @04:08PM (#62864455)

    Facebook started rejecting old Facebook apps that didn't resubmit the app every 3 months. I dropped Facebook login support a couple of years ago because Facebook started getting more and more obnoxious about Facebook apps and I eventually decided to drop the app altogether. It's not worth the hassle having to resubmit a Facebook app for approval every 3 months just so users can have the convenience to login with their Facebook account. It's not like the app was doing anything critical either: Retrieving first name, last name, and email address. That's it. No demographic data or anything significantly personal and the email address was never abused in any way.

    Facebook shot themselves in the foot here.

    The other problem is that Google fundamentally broke SSO logins on Android last year. Now devs have to jump through a bunch of crazy hoops just to do a seamless Google account login. It's not worth the app rewrite as most devs already have "app rewrite fatigue." With Google and Facebook SSO effectively dead, Twitter SSO never delivering email addresses (making Twitter pointless/useless as a SSO), and almost no one using LinkedIn SSO, the concept of SSO is still fine (e.g. Okta is dominating in the space) but all the major social media players have managed to find ways to ruin their respective implementations.

    • The whole point of an SSO is to prevent the site you are logging in to from having your email. If you trust them with email, log in with that. Many sites should not be trusted with email.

      What the user wants is to log in with something that doesn't transmit a sensitive password (which the shitbird website will store in plaintext and get hacked) or an email (which will be used to sell stuff, and if the site has a policy against spam, then they will either go out of business and be forced to sell their maili

  • by zuki ( 845560 ) on Thursday September 08, 2022 @04:17PM (#62864493) Journal
    ...and being greeted by....

    THE FACEBOOK BUTTON ITSELF!

    That being said, count me among the slim minority who never uses social credentials to log onto any other web sites. Never really could bring myself to trust it.
  • ...thanks to uBlock Origin.

    Thanks uBlock Origin!!!

  • by renegade600 ( 204461 ) on Thursday September 08, 2022 @04:25PM (#62864535)

    It was just collecting the same info the like buttons and other features facebook already has in the pages. It was not needed

  • "shoppers on Dell's website looking for a new laptop could log in using their Facebook credentials to avoid creating a new username and password."

    If consumers are actually demanding better privacy (as opposed to simply cancelling Facebook for a myriad of reasons), then Dell should wake the hell up here and start asking themselves; Why are we demanding our customers create a username and password?

    The Facebook button was put there to solve a problem. Removing it, does jack shit for that problem, or the problem of privacy if Dell is just as abusive with your personal information. Or anyone else for that matter.

    • Why are we demanding our customers create a username and password?

      As I understand it, establishing a user account on a shopping site such as Lenovo or Dell allows for use cases such as "View my previous orders," "Find a replacement rechargeable battery compatible with a laptop computer that I purchased," and "Start a support request for a computer that I purchased."

      • We've also see a big uptick in shopping websites that allow guest mode purchasing that can later be upconverted should you actually need that feature. One of the advantages of so many shops running woocommerce is that's a built in feature, so now I see it everywhere.
      • Every single Dell shipped for decades, came with a unique number that was tied to the specific chassis and build. This number, allowed any random person to visit Dell's support pages, and cover almost every scenario you've mentioned here.

        Has that identifier and process changed now? Does Dell "need" your personal information in order to initiate basic requests for support? If so, then perhaps we should ask why this has changed. And to my original point, ensure that Dell would actually protect your perso

        • by tepples ( 727027 )

          It's a shortcut in case the ink has worn off the service tag sticker, which has happened on one Dell laptop that I have owned.

  • Really? They actually did this? And Google too, I see those options...?

    Wow, stupid.

  • I noticed this trend and it's great to see people taking their privacy more seriously. Eliminating FB logins is one of the most egregious data collection scams in the world. Now if people would just get off FB completely.
  • The code that sends your info to Facebook is likely to hang around, even if the visible button is gone. I'm not sure this is an improvement.

  • by NotEmmanuelGoldstein ( 6423622 ) on Thursday September 08, 2022 @07:03PM (#62865091)

    ... was plastered all over the internet ...

    A few weeks ago, I browsed the internet while logged into Facebook: Nothing worked. On every web-site, the first thing any piece of JavaScript did, was tell Facebook which button/link I had clicked. My privacy watchdog then identified that JavaScript thread as malware and killed it. It was a lesson on which social-media giant is the most dangerous (hint, it's not TikTok).

  • ... to one tiny pixel.

  • You can take the Facebook button off of all pages with the JavaScript blocker
  • I quit FB at one point years ago because when I wanted to comment on different websites, FB would automatically sign me in for the comment. A lot of times, I couldn't get around that and login in with something else. With a browser in developer mode, you could see the FB code on every website I went to. That was scary to see and quit Fb. Only went back later to re-gain control of my account when it looked like someone was trying to get control of it. FB/Meta can die !

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