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Biden Team Lacks Full US Cybersecurity Support in Transition Fracas (wsj.com) 212

When it comes to protecting sensitive information from foreign hackers, President-elect Joe Biden's team is largely on its own. The federal government, which has some of the most sophisticated antihacking technologies in the world, is offering limited assistance to Mr. Biden's transition operation in securing its email and other communications, despite concerns that the team is likely a top espionage target for Russia, China, and other adversaries, WSJ reported Friday, citing people familiar with the transition. From the report: The lack of government cybersecurity support is among the obstacles the Biden transition team has faced as a result of the Trump administration's refusal to acknowledge Mr. Biden's election victory and make available the resources of the federal government ahead of his inauguration in two months. Normally, the General Services Administration would own and manage the setup of government email accounts for a presidential transition team, which are typically assigned the "ptt.gov" domain. The cybersecurity wing of the Department of Homeland Security typically assists in helping a transition to protect those newly created government email accounts, according to current and former officials, and could rely on information from U.S. intelligence agencies to inform its protective efforts. The Trump administration is blocking many of the transition-related resources usually provided to a president-elect, including government email accounts. The GSA so far has declined to identify Mr. Biden as the winner of the election, citing ongoing litigation, even though Mr. Trump has no clear path to victory, according to legal experts. Frozen out of the government network, the transition team is relying on a standard, paid Google Workspace network, the report said.
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Biden Team Lacks Full US Cybersecurity Support in Transition Fracas

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  • by shanen ( 462549 ) on Friday November 20, 2020 @02:57PM (#60747626) Homepage Journal

    Seems like a good time to mention The Perfect Weapon and remember that every book in this field is largely obsolete before the ink dries. However this one is only a couple of years old and does have a lot of good background information.

    Spoiler alert: We lost the cyber-war and we're still losing. Are you tired of losing yet?

    Could mention various details or even cite a bunch of such books, but I'm still dreaming of FP. How badly did I miss?

    • by shanen ( 462549 )

      Wow? Eighty-three words and two previews is permissible?

      So a couple more good background books: The main one that comes to mind is Cyber War by Richard Clarke. Balanced assessment of offensive and defensive capabilities for various countries as of 2010. Also vulnerabilities, which was a big part of The Perfect Weapon (cited in the previous comment). Both books consider political factors, too. I think that Data and Goliath had some relevant material, though the book as a whole wasn't memorable.

      Phishin

    • My sense is if you dont have top experts dont even play if at presidential level. Someone needs to put together a typewriter machine that just works through one time pads, all hardware specialized to that function. With that you would have a chance. Anything else i s public in modern world.

  • How do you expect this would ever change?

    The more Republicans do this, the more they are rewarded.

    They're making a ton in 'donations' by emailing people, lying about 100x pledge matching, now or never logic.

    Because they know this is the biggest excitement they'll be able to generate for a while.

    This isn't new in history either - the yellow era of journalism was basically this, with newspapers named for their extreme niche ramping up rhetoric, going back and forth on the robber barons, for and against - and

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by cayenne8 ( 626475 )

      The millennials are basically the Baby Boomers, scaled up.

      Their surrounding generations are basically the silent generation, scaled up.

      They're much more liberal by almost every definition used.

      Thankfully...it appears the next couple generations after the millennial are back to being conservative already...so, hopefully, the pendulum won't swing too much further left for too much longer and the US can get back to its sensible roots.

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      This isn't new in history either

      Indeed - as I've watched Trump's actions, I've often thought there are striking parallels to Boss Tweed [wikipedia.org] and Tammany Hall.

      It's funny how "drain the swamp" turned into "make it MY swamp".

      • by Known Nutter ( 988758 ) on Friday November 20, 2020 @03:26PM (#60747804)

        It's funny how "drain the swamp" turned into "make it MY swamp".

        I have a bridge to sell to any individual who thought the reality here would ever be anything but "make it my swamp" -- it was immediate.

      • by awwshit ( 6214476 ) on Friday November 20, 2020 @03:33PM (#60747826)

        Trump turned the swamp into a cesspool.

        • by Nidi62 ( 1525137 )

          Trump turned the swamp into a cesspool.

          Ever drain a swamp before? The water actually keeps the smell in. All Trump did was make it worse.

      • Trump may have that sort of control, but he does not have the planning and thinking required to be a Boss Tweed type. Tweed pulled the puppet strings from behind the curtain, but Trump wants to be in front of the curtain and doesn't notice that others are pulling his strings and pushing his buttons.

    • But Republicans will change. The nature of the system of winner-takes-all elections is that you will get two major parties and they will tend to split the electorate 50/50. If the electorate becomes mostly liberal as the baby boomers die off, then the Republican party will naturally become more liberal or else another major party will take its place. Note especially, the Republican party of today is nothing at all like the Republican party of 2000, or 1980. The Republican party during the Yellow Journal

      • by XXongo ( 3986865 )

        ...If the electorate becomes mostly liberal as the baby boomers die off, then ...

        do keep in mind that in the 60s and 70s, the baby boomers were known as the hippy era, and people back then thought the electorate would become more liberal as the world-war-II generation die off.

        Peace, love, and understanding, man; can you dig it?

      • by MightyMartian ( 840721 ) on Friday November 20, 2020 @03:57PM (#60747970) Journal

        The QAnon crowd are not senior citizens, they are largely the younger demographic. These will in fact drive the Republicans even further away from the center. Couple all the Holy Rollers and the like who don't care how horrible a Republican candidate is so long as he says bad things about abortion, and I don't see a remedy soon.

    • The millennials are basically the Baby Boomers, scaled up. They're going to be the ones with power soon.

      Depends on how you define "soon". The last 4 presidents (5 counting Biden) have been Baby Boomers. The next 3 or 4 presidents will likely be Gen-X (lots of people in both parties are in that age range including Kamala Harris, Nikki Haley, Andrew Yang, Marco Rubio, Beto O'Rourke, Ted Cruz, Amy Klobuchar). That means at least 2040 before we see a Millennial president.

    • If Obama was like Kennedy, and Trump was like Nixon, then Biden is like Ford and Harris is like Carter.

      We're going to be inundated by yuppies.
  • Just hire the dude that was in charge of the Obama care enrollment. That worked out great.
    • When I looked into it, it was better than I thought. For a project of that size, to have the final produce readily salvageable is pretty good. We do NOT know how to do software projects on that scale reliably.

  • Is it normal for the transition to start significantly before the results have been certified? Wouldn't the official transition normally wait until after the electoral college has actually picked a winner?

    Sure, it seems likely at this point that Biden will win. But it's still a future event until the electoral college votes is it not? I would hardly expect official support prior to an official result.

    • by Known Nutter ( 988758 ) on Friday November 20, 2020 @03:34PM (#60747840)
      In the past, transition efforts have started 2 or 3 days after the election -- you know, when pretty much everybody firmly anchored in reality accepted the result. Waiting until December seems unprecedented to me, but I can't really cite that.
    • It has when the other person conceded that they had lost.
      The closest to what is happening now was back with clinton/gore in that case gore did not concede until Dec 13, which was after the states had certified their delegates and was one day before the Electorial College started meeting. At that point the media started to use the term "President-Elect" for Bush and a few days later clinton provided office space and support to Bush's transition team.
    • by Nidi62 ( 1525137 )

      Is it normal for the transition to start significantly before the results have been certified?

      Yes, it is. Incoming department heads have to start having briefings. Security clearances have to be processed for incoming staffers who need them. Incoming administrations have to be able to be effective starting 12:01pm Jan 20. There is a lot of prep work that has to be done beforehand.

    • by XXongo ( 3986865 ) on Friday November 20, 2020 @04:17PM (#60748080) Homepage

      Is it normal for the transition to start significantly before the results have been certified?

      Yes.

      Wouldn't the official transition normally wait until after the electoral college has actually picked a winner?

      No.

      Sure, it seems likely at this point that Biden will win. But it's still a future event until the electoral college votes is it not? I would hardly expect official support prior to an official result.

      That is the point of the Presidential Transition Act, that official support and preparations for the transition start as soon as possible, before the electoral college votes.

    • by MachineShedFred ( 621896 ) on Friday November 20, 2020 @04:21PM (#60748102) Journal

      Trump's team received GSA funding on 8 November 2016. Basically every Presidential election has been long decided before now, with the notable exception of 2000, and each incumbent / outgoing President had the class to work with the incoming winner regardless of party because it's what's best for the country and they weren't pissy little bitch losers like the current outgoing President.

  • from YouTube on the subject. The TL;DW; is that Biden knew this was going to happen and has built a parallel structure (more or less a full state department) to assist him with the transition during Trump's temper tantrum.
    • by Nidi62 ( 1525137 )

      from YouTube on the subject. The TL;DW; is that Biden knew this was going to happen and has built a parallel structure (more or less a full state department) to assist him with the transition during Trump's temper tantrum.

      Luckily, as a former VP and current Senator, Biden and Harris still have active clearances. But they can only get their briefings right now from subject experts or former administration members who, while certainly highly knowledgeable in their fields, may not have fully up to date information, no classified material (because the GSA won't make the ascertainment declaration you likely have people on the transition teams without the necessary clearances), etc. So likely any material they are getting is mor

  • Remember his words (Score:5, Informative)

    by smooth wombat ( 796938 ) on Friday November 20, 2020 @03:27PM (#60747810) Journal
    The con artist has admitted he likes chaos [buzzfeednews.com], which of course has served him well through his 16 business bankruptcies, 6 personal bankruptcies, 3 failed marriages and numerous affairs.

    He also said he loves the poorly educated [snopes.com], and boy are the poorly educated sucking up his lies.
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    • The con artist

      I'm not sure why people keep calling him a con artist. He's one of the few politicians who tells the truth. He admitted that he's only a good winner and not a good looser, he said he wouldn't leave the white house, he said he wouldn't just accept the result of the election if he lost, I mean we've been complaining about him lying for 4 years and now he finally tells the truth and everyone keeps complaining. Hypocritical democrats!

      *note this post is sarcasm, and at this point I only hope Trump chokes on a ch

      • The con artist

        I'm not sure why people keep calling him a con artist. He's one of the few politicians who tells the truth.

        Don't worry, I know you were being sarcastic, but it's interesting WHY he sounds honest.

        Lying is hard, it's hard not just because doing something wrong is stressful, but because you're having to conjure up their alternate reality where the lie makes sense (and it's easily exposed).

        That's why, when normal people lie, their speaking slows down, they start hedging what they say, and they sound a bit hesitant. Fittingly, this is also what it sounds like when you're trying to avoid over committing or getting mis

    • I am going with the theory he is trying to find opportunity in chaos where he can strike a deal with the Biden admin to provide him immunity from all current and previous acts. However the farther he goes, the more he pisses people off the less likely he will get what he wants.

      • I have my doubts he's intelligent enough to be doing what you say intentionally, even if his advisors recommended it. Because he's not shown any ability to play the political game in any fashion other than "I said it, it's happening, and I refuse to hear otherwise." I think it's far more likely he truly believes he can stretch this out and fuck something up well enough to stay in power. I don't personally believe it *WILL* happen, but we're dealing with fantasy land when it comes to what goes on in his h

      • Fortunately, the Biden administration has no power to interfere with Trump being prosecuted, almost certainly convicted, and very likely imprisoned by the State of New York. Nor can a Presidential pardon be used for a civil lawsuit.

  • Probably because he doesn't give a crap if foreign groups (hackers, IP thieves, intelligence agencies, or otherwise) penetrate US systems.

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