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Japan To Limit Foreign Ownership of Firms in Its IT, Telecom Sectors (reuters.com) 64

Posted by msmash from the growing-tension dept.
Japan's government said on Monday that high-tech industries will be added to a list of businesses for which foreign ownership of Japanese firms is restricted. From a report: The new rule, effective Aug. 1, comes amid heightening pressure from the United States in dealing with cyber-security risks and technological transfers involving China. The Japanese government made no mention of specific countries or companies that will be impacted by applying existing foreign ownership restrictions to the IT and telecoms industries.

The announcement came on the same day visiting U.S. President Donald Trump and Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe are holding talks in Tokyo on trade and other issues. The United States has warned countries against using Chinese technology, saying Huawei Technologies could be used by Beijing to spy on the West. China and Huawei have strongly rejected the allegations.
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  • Wrong country, not China or North Korea...

    • Wrong country, not China or North Korea...

      Which made it even more amusing, when Trump whacked in a long drive, and then exclaimed:

      "Charlie don't golf!"

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by Mashiki ( 184564 )

      I'll give you two guesses why Japan is doing this. If your answers don't start with: Chi-Kong and China you've failed to understand just what's happening over in that region currently.

  • Buy Cisco instead! (Score:1)

    by Anonymous Coward

    US-based Cisco can't be used to spy on the West nor any other countries.

    [p.s.: I had my fingers crossed.]

  • It's silly, really... (Score:3)

    by rmdingler ( 1955220 ) on Monday May 27, 2019 @06:07PM (#58663994) Journal

    Many/most nations with international secret services would be inclined to use domestic corporations to forward their own interests, just as powerful local corporations learn to use their governments to forward their interests. Expecting otherwise is a fundamental misunderstanding of human nature.

    Nanny-nanny-boo-boo, stick your head in doo-doo, but don't do what we do.

    • Re: (Score:2, Flamebait)

      by Aighearach ( 97333 )

      That's probably why it is so easy to pressure most of them to do it. Since the side effects benefit them directly.

      Not sure why there are so many Europeans who get mad at US requests for them to buy European gear. I guess it is the sad result of letting them use American "secret services" for so long; they're so used to being client states, they get confused when they're told not to!

    • Re:It's silly, really... (Score:4, Insightful)

      by rtb61 ( 674572 ) on Tuesday May 28, 2019 @02:12AM (#58665158) Homepage

      It is like Trump is simply too stupid to realise the US will be excluded as well because Japan trusts them less than the China. You kind of know where you stand with the government of China but with the USA, it changes from quarter to quarter depending upon which corporate cabal is paying the biggest bribes and most highly placed insiders at that time. It is expected the USA will break it's word from quarter to quarter depending upon whom is paying who for what, foreign or domestic, insane stuff. Every will go that way to ensure no foreign government can hit the off switch to essential digital infrastructure and the USA is to be trusted the least.

      • And why do you think that? Do you not understand how the intelligence sharing agreements work? All of these countries in Five Eyes, NATO etc intentionally use each other to commit surveillance acts that are otherwise illegal. NSA aren't allowed to spy on Americans so they use GHCQ to do it. It never was a question of whether anyone trusts America or not. It's a question of whether they want to save face and plausible deniability. I'd say you guys are naive but the existence of these practices has been leake

      • It is like Trump is simply too stupid to realise the US will be excluded as well because Japan trusts them less than the China.

        Well he can't figure out that exports are a concession and imports make us richer, so why would you expect much reasoning and understanding otherwise?

      • You kind of know where you stand with the government of China

        Hahaha! Sigh... good one.

      • It is like Trump is simply too stupid to realise the US will be excluded as well because Japan trusts them less than the China.

        Emotionally charged feelings between the Chinese and Japanese in both directions far transcend the bland economic relationship between Japan and the US. I'm not sure Trump truly understands this dynamic, but the Chinese and Japanese definitely understand the long-standing cultural adversarial relationship between these two geographic neighbors.

    • Many/most nations with international secret services would be inclined to use domestic corporations

      Yes and no. The intelligence agencies certainly would, and force a load of vulnerabilities on those firms. Politicians are brainwashed to be in capitalistic heaven, where the cheapest and most polluting company is way more important than society itself. Those companies are always situated in lower-wage countries.

  • ARM (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 27, 2019 @06:52PM (#58664130)

    Ok so give back to Europe ARM...

    • News flash: Brexit.

      Not yours.

      Also, a lot of the work is actually done in the US.

      The US has a much greater stake in this than "Europe."

      • And the UK and US have a "special relationship" that if anything the Brits will need to rely even more on now that it seems a hard brexit is inevitable.

      • The US has a much greater stake in this than "Europe."

        The US has no stake in it. They provide a handful of jobs. 100% of money generated by ARM goes outside of the USA save for minor expenses of employee salary. 25% to the UK, 75% to Japan.

    • Ok so give back to Europe ARM...

      Why? The UK isn't being protectionist. Self destructive definitely but protectionism isn't about the well being of another country.

    • ARM is the beginning of Weyland-Yutani. It will come in secret but once their offworld investigation programs are operational it will be over for the world.

  • Lol, backfire burning, USA? (Score:1)

    by Anonymous Coward

    Because I don't know if you realize: That means no Cisco either!

    • I don't know if you realize this, but Cisco is popular in no country.

      Paranoid Americans buy European networking gear. This was already true by the late 90s.

      If Japan was stronger in that area, they'd also be a preferred option. That's what this is about; shifting sales from China to Japan. This at least sets up the rules to make that a reasonable option in the current trade climate.

      Cisco is preferred by big corporations, because they have a sales department that is good at schmoozing and sliming. Japanese IT

  • I thought that all this spy things were popular talk 15 years ago. Almost everything that surrounds us was made in China. I don't think it is true

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