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Have Terabytes of Enron Data Quietly Gone Missing? (muckrock.com) 85

Long-time Slashdot reader v3rgEz quotes MuckRock: Government investigations into California's electricity shortage, ultimately determined to be caused by intentional market manipulations and capped retail electricity prices by the now infamous Enron Corporation, resulted in terabytes of information being collected by the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission. This included several extremely large databases, some of which had nearly 200 million rows of data, including Enron's bidding and price processes, their trading and risk management systems, emails, audio recordings, and nearly 100,000 additional documents. That information has quietly disappeared, and not even its custodians seem to know why.
The web page where a defense contractor hosts the data has been down since 2013, and after a one-month wait they replied to a request by stating the data was "under review" and "currently not accessible," adding that it might never be available again. And while a U.S. government site also claims they offer a trio of datasets on CD, that agency "has not responded to repeated requests for these datasets sent over the past two months."

The site also instructs visitors to email Lockheed Martin, who maintains some of the data -- but the provided email address bounces.
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Have Terabytes of Enron Data Quietly Gone Missing?

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  • by Brett Buck ( 811747 ) on Saturday February 02, 2019 @04:39PM (#58060554)

    What difference does it make at this point? The case is closed, the company is gone, people have gone to jail. It's completely irrelevant today. There are also plenty of public records of the trials if anyone wants to know the details.

    • by 110010001000 ( 697113 ) on Saturday February 02, 2019 @04:45PM (#58060594) Homepage Journal
      It isn't irrelevant. There are companies like Enron out there right now. Look for companies that hate short sellers. Enron execs detested short sellers. For a good reason: they expose inflated numbers and fake businesses. Literally the same things happen over and over again in the business world. The lessons of Enron have been forgotten because everyone wants the gravy train to keep rolling.
      • It isn't irrelevant. There are companies like Enron out there right now.

        That doesn't explain what anyone would want to do with the data from the Enron case. If you're trying to make a case against another corporation, you're going to need data about THEIR activities, not Enron's.

        • Let's say you want to train some machine learning algorithms to recognize suspicious trading patterns. Here's a dataset that came from a known bad actor. Could it be useful in identifying patterns of suspicious behavior? I'd suggest it might be of some use...

      • Right, people are tempted to do illegal things to make more money. The same forces have been working for 10,000 years or so, and its not going to change.

        Why does having terabytes of data, virtually of which is mundane and completely off-topic, so important to learn that lesson? Even if you wanted to study it, how do you sort out the relevant parts? How would you even start? Every Ken Lay email? The prosecutors did that for you already, at least to the extent practical, read the transcripts (w

    • by PPH ( 736903 )

      Because of PG&E's bankruptcy. And the need to track down funds that might still be parked in various places overseas.

      And while a U.S. government site also claims they offer a trio of datasets on CD

      It would be interesting to see if anyone that took delivery of one of these. Can we get them put on line somewhere? Turned over to a trusted library? Or have you already been visited and served with a National Security Letter?

      Please post pictures of dead canary or empty cage.

    • What difference does it make at this point? The case is closed, the company is gone, people have gone to jail. It's completely irrelevant today. There are also plenty of public records of the trials if anyone wants to know the details.

      It may be due to the upcoming Mueller report and Sidney Powell, who wrote an expose book [licensedtolie.com] a couple of years back about the FBI.

      She was recently interviewed [youtube.com] on Mark Levin's show, and has some very condemnatory information about Mueller, some people on Mueller's team, and the FBI in general.

      (NB: Sydney Powell is a former federal prosecutor, worked at the DOJ for 10 years, and lead counsel in over 500 federal appeals. Highly credible, whose information can't be dismissed out of hand.)

      The Enron data might have b

      • by Mashiki ( 184564 )

        That's obviously a conspiracy theory or something. /s

        Obviously the Muller is a perfect guy, and none of his prior enron cases weren't thrown out because he was inventing evidence of crimes and ended up being lambasted by the appeals court for it.

    • by whit3 ( 318913 )
      We should care because Enron didn't act alone, those records are all that remains after criminal transactions and a notorious shredding-of-documents episode. Whatever the crimes already prosecuted, OTHER crimes may come to light in future.

      Until the statute of limitations for corporate malfeasance times-out the info, it is of value to interested parties in civil and crimilnal actions, Since Enron no longer maintains/controls that trove, destroying it is... unuseful. It should be kept available for subpoe

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Like he never had deals with Russia, lol. What a dumb traitor.

  • Otherwise we could have blamed this on Trump!
  • PG&E among others are soon to be dealing with many trials surrounding various California wildfires they caused.

    The timing of noticing this data loss could be that evidence of power companies' neglect can be found in decades old Enron docs.
    • by Mashiki ( 184564 )

      Well they have some problems with other wildfire, but the 'camp fire' one? That's going to land on someone else's head, with their little microfit setup that caused it.

  • I wish I wasn't under a NDA, because I could speak truth to some really bad issues. Unless I'm under subpoena, I can't say any more.

  • by yusing ( 216625 )

    I'm so used to smelling rat when it comes to corporations and the government and the connections and overseas accounts. Lately I've been smelling hundreds of rats.

    The biggest rat so far was when, the day before 9/11, Rumsfeld reported $2.3 trillion missing at the DoD. Neatly done.

    I'm beginning to suspect it's possible there are thousands of rats like this Enron rat stuffed into thousands of closets. Once the news has faded away, we forget. Too bad that isn't impossible.

  • Everybody on slashdot knows now. Does anybody else matter?

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