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The Secret Service Wants To Test Facial Recognition Around the White House (theverge.com) 55

The Secret Service is planning to test facial recognition surveillance around the White House, "with the goal of identifying 'subjects of interest' who might pose a threat to the president," reports The Verge. The document with the plans was published by the American Civil Liberties Union, describing "a test that would compare closed circuit video footage of public White House spaces against a database of images -- in this case, featuring employees who volunteered to be tracked." From the report: The test was scheduled to begin on November 19th and to end on August 30th, 2019. While it's running, film footage with a facial match will be saved, then confirmed by human evaluators and eventually deleted. The document acknowledges that running facial recognition technology on unaware visitors could be invasive, but it notes that the White House complex is already a "highly monitored area" and people can choose to avoid visiting. We don't know whether the test is actually in operation, however. "For operational security purposes we do not comment on the means and methods of how we conduct our protective operations," a spokesperson told The Verge.

The ACLU says that the current test seems appropriately narrow, but that it "crosses an important line by opening the door to the mass, suspicionless scrutiny of Americans on public sidewalks" -- like the road outside the White House. (The program's technology is supposed to analyze faces up to 20 yards from the camera.) "Face recognition is one of the most dangerous biometrics from a privacy standpoint because it can so easily be expanded and abused -- including by being deployed on a mass scale without people's knowledge or permission."

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The Secret Service Wants To Test Facial Recognition Around the White House

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  • to keep those White House visitor records a secret when everyone who visits is not only on camera, but matched to a database to boot.

    • Hint: That guy with the big floppy head isn't really Richard Nixon. Neither are any of the others who look just like him.

    • by mysidia ( 191772 )

      In all likelihood, they won't be White House records available for anyone other than law enforcement, however. They will most likely be classified Security / Law Enforcement / Secret Service data, privileged as strategic data and part of ongoing investigations into threats

      Same deal as FBI records.... they contain private personal information about people and secret info about investigations and investigative procedures -- and therefore cannot be retrieved for public scrutiny. You can request your own

  • by Rick Schumann ( 4662797 ) on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @08:42PM (#57750724) Journal
    With someone like Trump in office, it must be at least 10 times harder to keep people out who would want to kill him.
    • Comment removed based on user account deletion
      • Oh, believe you me, I know damned well I've had an FBI file with my name on it for decades now, and the scathing letter I sent to Trump at the Whitehouse, after his continual attacks on the 1st Amendment and then the 14th Amendment more or less guarantees that the S.S. has done at least a cursory investigation into me, but I don't care, I'm not going to let a loud-mouthed bully like Trump infringe on my 1st Amendment rights, either. Let 'em send their jackbooted thugs in suits after me, IDGAF.
    • by arth1 ( 260657 )

      Trump masks are available for cheap, just saying...

  • Any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

    At least there are some nominal protections in how it's used not that the ACLU actually helps.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    No wait, it's just a roadkill squirrel.

  • by Sponge Bath ( 413667 ) on Tuesday December 04, 2018 @10:05PM (#57751008)

    Computer: I've got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission. [scans target]
    Target: I reveal my Inmost Self unto my God: MAGA!
    Computer: Sigh.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    I just figured they were already doing this. I mean why not?
    Besides, if they were doing this are wanted to do this why would they even announce it. Just do it.

    Anyone, scratch that, any American who would find a reason not to utilize this technology in and around the White House can GTFO in my opinion.
    The White House, regardless of who currently resides there, is a sacred area of the USofA.

    • by arth1 ( 260657 )

      The White House, regardless of who currently resides there, is a sacred area of the USofA.

      Sacred? Keep your religion private and away from my government!

  • Starting this year the ACLU is no longer for innocence before being guilting or requiring a fair trial. They are now out for political blood and will use any method to remove those they are against. So why should they be believed on this claim? We know they are against trump and we know they like linking innocent people with criminals and it looks like they are doing it again here.
  • They even let people with orange faces into the White House.

  • It is just in the Oval Room, all guards enter and stop it!

    .........

    Ehm, sorry mr. President, our new terrorist facial recognition system still needs some minor modifications.
    • I think it will be the opposite. I think that the president himself is always recognised as good guy by the system. If you want to do something bad in China, wear a mask of the president and all recognition will probably stop. If you want to do something bad near the white house, wear a mask of the president (or his head of staff) and the system will fail. Off course, this only has an effect if the human guards are fired because of trust in this system.
  • by PeeAitchPee ( 712652 ) on Wednesday December 05, 2018 @06:59AM (#57751940)
    If you think this is just because of Trump, you may want to look back at the number of incidents which actually occurred when Obama lived there, including an armed intruder jumping the fence and actually ENTERING THE BUILDING [washingtonpost.com] and a mentally ill woman getting shot to death with a baby in her car after panicking, ramming the east entrance, and fleeing. [wikipedia.org] Seriously, knock it off with the partisan shit. I know about 45% of the readers on this site blame Trump, Republicans, and straight white men for the entirety of the world's evils, but nutters being attracted to the White House are a completely non-partisan phenomenon.
    • Right you are sir, there are crazies all the time. But would the ACLU be this excited if the occupant was a Democrat? As a political independent, that's what I want to know.
    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      blame Trump, Republicans, and straight white men

      2 out of 3 ain't bad.

  • Why not have every employee in the database and flag people who don't belong? They don't even have to scan guests if the system detects an unknown and that unknown is detected with an employee who has checked in a guest properly the odds of a breach are tremendously lowered. How can this be a new idea in an ultra-high security zone?

    That better approach seems so obvious that this announcement seems like an excuse for weakened security. We'll see if a future incident is blamed on precisely this low level o

    • by arth1 ( 260657 )

      Why not have every employee in the database and flag people who don't belong?

      Because unless they add security resources to check on and act on the recognition, it will inevitably mean reallocating resources.
      Then wearing a mask or make-up of an employee improves your odds, as resources that would have checked you before will be allocated elsewhere.

      And if you want to add security resources, you can do that anyhow; no need for facial recognition.

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