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Verizon Up Offers Rewards in Exchange For Customers' Personal Information (wsj.com) 74

An anonymous reader shares a report: A new Verizon rewards program, Verizon Up, provides credits that wireless subscribers can use for concert tickets, movie premieres and phone upgrades. But it comes with a catch: Customers must give the carrier access to their web-browsing history, app usage and location data, which Verizon says it uses to personalize the rewards and deliver targeted advertising as its customers browse the web. The trade-off is part of Verizon's effort to build a digital advertising business to compete with web giants Facebook and Google, which often already possess much of the same customer information. Even though Congress earlier this year dismantled tough privacy regulations on telecommunications providers, Verizon still wants customers to opt-in to its most comprehensive advertising program, called Verizon Selects. Data collected under the program is shared with Oath, the digital-media unit Verizon created when it bought AOL and Yahoo. Since access to data from customers could make it easier to tailor ads to their liking, Verizon hopes the information will help it gain advertising revenue to offset sluggish growth in its cellular business.See a current list of Verizon plans here.
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Verizon Up Offers Rewards in Exchange For Customers' Personal Information

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  • The name was different but they had something like this for a while... the advert talked up the points being able to pay for new phones and so on but the terms were the same as the creepy ones above. They can probably already do all sorts of squicky things with your phone data legally, giving them further permissions seemed unwise.
    • ...and yet the odds of kids (under 25) allowing them to do jut that? Almost perfect. After all, what use do they have for privacy?

      Hate to say it, but Verizon's already done the math (no joke intended), and they see it as potentially profitable, IMHO precisely because of this.

    • Fuck you Verizon!

      You'll *never* get anything from me!!!

      Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone.

  • They can have full access to the VM I create for them for all I care.

  • by Opportunist ( 166417 ) on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @10:13AM (#55140641)

    Just with more information and not paywalled?

    I mean this one [arstechnica.com].

    • by Tx ( 96709 )

      It'd just be slow news if it was only originally on Ars, but it was posted right here on slashdot [slashdot.org] too. Same story from a month ago.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    To Verizon and AT&T. They're Ma Bell reincarnate, without any of the good parts.

    I'd rather have a cell phone with worse reception than give money to those monopolists.

    • Ma Bell, pre-divestiture, despite being a monopoly, was in the business of providing the best land-line service in the world -- and they did. They also invented heavily into fundamental research (Bell Labs) not connected to how much money they could make from it. In return for this arrangement, despite being granted patents, they never enforced their exclusive rights on them effectively giving away their discoveries and inventions to humanity.

      Did they stifle competition? Absolutely. But there was a silver

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @10:15AM (#55140659)

    Verizon still wants customers to opt-in to its most comprehensive advertising program

    Credit where it's due: they at least made this opt-in instead of opt-out. That's the way this should be handled, and it's also the way Google, Facebook, Instagram, and others should be doing, rather than blanket mass surveillance.

    Now, people who sign up for this are foolish. But that's a separate topic.

  • by sinij ( 911942 ) on Tuesday September 05, 2017 @10:27AM (#55140715)
    While this program is a horrible violation of privacy, as long as the entire program is opt-in it is acceptable.
    • Opt-in is only for the "benefits". Trust me, they are still collecting and selling all of the other stuff w/ the regulation dismantlement by congress regardless of what they are telling us.

      • by pnutjam ( 523990 )
        This part of the program is opt-in, but there are still plenty of things you need to opt-out of, I know this first hand.
    • by swb ( 14022 )

      The problem is that it will be opt-in initially, and the people who take advantage of it will be the ones Verizon least wants to spy on -- cheapskates and naive young people.

      They don't really care about this data, what they want is the data of the people who won't opt in. Once they get enough clueless/careless people to opt in, they start making it a coercive opt-in -- you pay more not to opt-in. Then they take away the ability to opt-in at all.

  • ..for ownership of the island of Manhattan.

    Also: Does anyone actually believe that they don't collect all that information anyway? They just want people to make it easier for them to do so. At least, until things get so bad that they force people to be monitored like this is China.
  • It'd be a fun project to build a Linux VM that allows you to trivially spoof a bunch of random data to get access to this programme. And distribute it. I think amping up the noise against these things while trying to take advantage of the benefits is probably more effective than flat out boycotting.

  • ... network searches you!

  • http://archive.fortune.com/mag... [fortune.com]

    I was technical lead for the client-side of this.

    Best moments: "the cone of silence" ritual, and being deposed by David Boies.

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