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'Pirate' Movie Streaming Sites Declared Legal By Italian Court (torrentfreak.com) 48

A Court of Appeal in Rome has overturned a 600,000 euro ruling against four unlicensed sites that offered streaming movies to the public. From a report: When it comes to passing judgment on so-called 'pirate' sites, Italy has more experience than most around Europe. Courts have passed down many decisions against unlicensed sites which have seen hundreds blocked by ISPs. Today, however, news coming out of the country suggests that the parameters of what defines a pirate site may not be so loosely interpreted in future. It began in 2015 when the operator of four sites that linked to pirated movies was found guilty of copyright infringement by a local court and ordered to pay more almost 600,000 in fines and costs. As a result, filmakers.biz, filmaker.me, filmakerz.org, and cineteka.org all shutdown but in the background, an appeal was filed. The appeal was heard by the Rome Court of Appeal in February and now, through lawyer Fulvio Sarzana who defended the sites' operator, we hear of a particularly interesting ruling. "The Court ruled that the indication of links does not qualify as making direct disposal of files protected by copyright law," Sarzana told TF in an email.
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'Pirate' Movie Streaming Sites Declared Legal By Italian Court

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  • by Anonymous Coward

    The various *AA lobby groups won't let this stand.
     
    You'd think they'd bought enough politicians worldwide to ensure rulings like this couldn't happen.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      It probably won't last, but it is correct in that linking to a torrent (mostly magnet links) does not constitute copyright infringment.

  • by pablo_max ( 626328 ) on Monday March 27, 2017 @01:36PM (#54119957)

    IMO, if a very large portion of a population does an action which is technically illegal, but no one considers it wrong, then clearly it should not be illegal.
    Will allowing piracy mean that music and movies will disappear? No, of course not.
    It just means that shit, mass produced movies and music, designed purely to make money "may" disappear. There will always be people who do a thing just for the thing. Art for the love of art and not to become rich.

    • by chuckugly ( 2030942 ) on Monday March 27, 2017 @02:22PM (#54120355)
      If rights holders would reap the profits for a decade or MAYBE two and then our cultural artifacts would enter the public domain, as the system was intended to work, people in general would likely respect copyright a lot more. As it is rights holders have perverted the law to the point where the goal of the enforcement of the right of first sale (to ensure the public can enjoy the arts) is no longer even widely recognized as the goal. We have what should be illegal extensions of copyright terms, schemes that restrict and/or outlaw the consumers right to second sale, and all sorts of other infringements promulgated and implemented by a corrupt system. No wonder people don't respect copyright restrictions any more.
      • Very well put. I feel that the 70+ years of copyright laws is almost your - if not all of your lifespan. So it might as well be infinite.. If the rotten piracy laws triumph.. I will just do without purchasing them because: Charging $2.00 (or less) a movie is more than enough to make a decent profit. More people will be prone to impulse buy it. With a wider buying audience, their profits will be equal, if not better, than what they had before.
    • by Anonymous Coward

      IMO, if a very large portion of a population does an action which is technically illegal, but no one considers it wrong, then clearly it should not be illegal.

      Ah. I see you are not a lawyer. Think about speeding. If everyone drives at 100 miles an hour shouldn't the speed limit be 100 miles an hour? Laws are made to protect people, and in this case the people being protected are the movie producers.

      Will allowing piracy mean that music and movies will disappear? No, of course not.

      Will allowing people to drive at 100 MPH mean people will get where they want to go faster? Of course it does. That's not the point. The point is Will People Be Harmed? In both cases the answer is yes.

      It just means that shit, mass produced movies and music, designed pu

    • by Anonymous Coward

      I find that in human history, one hundred percent of the time that someone says "art for the love of art and not to become rich", that they are about to rip off an artist.

    • by Altrag ( 195300 )

      very large portion of a population

      This is your problem. We're redefining "population" to mean "big companies." In the same way that the Romans only cared about people who owned land (well, men who owned land,) we're running headlong into only caring only about people who run giant companies.

      I suppose we're one step up on the Romans though -- we treat women as 82% of a person instead of 0%.

  • by Frosty Piss ( 770223 ) * on Monday March 27, 2017 @01:56PM (#54120105)

    I should be paid for and own that which I create. You? Not so much.

    • by Altrag ( 195300 )

      Most people don't deny that.

      What we get annoyed with is when some faceless company you sold your rights to for a (relative) pittance wants to get paid for what you created 70+ years after your death.

      And as it stands, DRM'd works can technically never be released into the public domain even after their copyright expires unless someone with an unencrypted original decides to release it, because decrypting it is illegal under the DMCA.

      It's an open question whether or not someone (illegally) breaking the DRM an

  • by Khyber ( 864651 ) <techkitsune@gmail.com> on Monday March 27, 2017 @02:00PM (#54120141) Homepage Journal

    Linking is the core idea of the internet. To kill it means to kill the internet as it exists.

  • Bad headline. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by msauve ( 701917 ) on Monday March 27, 2017 @02:12PM (#54120255)
    No, streaming sites are still illegal. They ruled that providing links to streaming sites is not illegal.
    • The links provided by the pirate sites should not be illegal. After all, I want to avoid pirated content. A link is like you telling me where the local crack house is, so that I can avoid going near it. By getting thousands and thousands of links from pirate sites, I can avoid piracy on a big scale. Especially if it is searchable. What movie do I want to avoid pirating today? Um, oh, that one! Search for link, clickety clickety click. Ah, here are five links to that movie so that I can, um, avoid th
    • I am thinking in particular of 123moviesfree.whateverthetldtheyhavetodayis

      They live behind Cloudflare and presumably pay money to them for the bandwidth to stream movies illegally.

      Also things like animeland.tv that do the same.

      I must admit I use these things and often it's stuff that I have access to but which doesn't work. For instance I subscribed to Funimation's site because my daughter loves anime. But the site is so slow that the movies are unwatchable. I guess since the same stuff is available ille

  • I mean, it wasn't a great movie [wikipedia.org] but to ban it outright seems harsh...
  • Going after pirates is like starting another drug war, but against something that doesn't really destroy lives or kill anyone.
  • Won't people get tired of watch movies with pirates in them?
  • The links provided by the pirate sites should not be illegal. After all, I want to avoid pirated content. A link is like you telling me where the local crack house is, so that I can avoid going near it. By getting thousands and thousands of links from pirate sites, I can avoid piracy on a big scale. Www.Penmyemotions.com shares with the world knowledge ranging from relationship advice,Poems to scam prevention tips and others.

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