Film Industry's Latest Search Engine Draws Traffic With 'Pirate' Keywords' (torrentfreak.com) 73
A new search engine launched by the Dutch film industry is targeting 'pirates' specifically, reports TorrentFreak. Every movie or TV-show page lists legal viewing options but also includes pirate keywords and descriptions, presumably to draw search traffic. "Don't Wrestle With Nasty Torrents. Ignore the Rogue One: A Star Wars Story torrent," the site advises. From a report: Like other "legal" search engines, the site returns a number of options where people can watch the movies or TV-shows they search for. However, those who scroll down long enough will notice that each page has a targeted message for pirates as well. The descriptions come in a few variations but all mention prominent keywords such as "torrents" and reference "illegal downloading" and unauthorized streaming.
Assume your customers are criminals. (Score:4, Insightful)
Then treat them that way. What an absolutely wonderful way to build their loyalty!
Re: Assume your customers are criminals. (Score:5, Interesting)
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Who needs loyalty when they have 100+ years of government-endorsed monopoly on their works?
Sure if you're looking for "any movie" there's lots of competition, but most people are looking for specific movies and the monopoly prevents you from (legitimately) getting it from a competing provider.
google twats stopped their search blacklisting (Score:1)
too bad the twats at google stopped their search results site blacklisting feature. any good search engine should have that feature, everyone should demand it
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yes, google allowed you to have a list of up to 500 domains that would not appear in search results, called Manage Blocked Sites", discontinued in early 2013
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I love watching the old Marx brothers stuff. Groucho was my favorite.
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That's... quite an assumption.
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But not an entirely unjustified one. Remember this comic [theoatmeal.com] from a few years ago?
That said, there's another issue involved: Media is too expensive for the amount people want to consume. If you watch one movie each Saturday, and assuming a $40 price tag per movie because you like to watch relatively new releases, you're talking about $160 per month or $2080 per year. Most people watch a hell of a lot more than one movie a week.
Netflix is great for this -- you pay one flat monthly fee and you can get as much
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Yeah, couldn't agree more. The promise of Netflix was that, like their movie rental business, you'd have access to virtually every movie, (and TV show), ever made, but instead of waiting for a DVD to come through the mail, streamed instantly over the internet. But, oh no, the studios would not allow that! They seemed content to spend their time whining about "piracy". Meanwhile, the people found a way around their intransigence.
I have Netflix, and finally, after many months of waiting, HBO-Go for PS4. But I
Wonder if this works... (Score:2)
Rogue One? (Score:2)
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My favorite piracy-related films (Score:5, Funny)
The Curse of the Black Pearl
Dead Man's Chest
At World's End
On Stranger Tides
Dead Men Tell No Tales
Re: My favorite piracy-related films (Score:3, Funny)
No Princess Bride?
Dread Pirate Roberts inconsolable.
Black Sails also, but you said films.
SEO (Score:5, Insightful)
Honey Pot (Score:3)
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That isn't true at all you can find most of the major indexing sites on search engines. Perhaps you meant invite based ratio sites? Those aren't the "real" source, just a different source and you can still find the path to them on search engines.
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"The real sources of this sort of thing are not advertised on search engines and never have been." That isn't true at all you can find most of the major indexing sites on search engines. Perhaps you meant invite based ratio sites? Those aren't the "real" source, just a different source and you can still find the path to them on search engines.
Nope not referring to any of that and I don't care anymore. I'm not poor anymore so I have purchased all my media for a long time. I honestly don't understand why people pirate anymore anyway. Games, movies, music it's all really cheap now. The prices used to be fixed unreasonably high and now it's pretty reasonable. I can't remember the last time I paid more than $10 for a game. If you want it on day 1 you'll shell out the high price but you're paying for day 1. Patience is a virtue.
Also pirating in
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If you want it on day 1 you'll shell out the high price
Most people want it on day 1. What's the point of buying a movie for $5 3 years after all of your friends have stopped talking about it? Sure its cheap but you lose a lot of the social aspect of consuming media, which is more important than the media itself to a lot of people.
Not that watching old movies or playing old games is a bad thing, and people do lots of that (both legitimately and otherwise) but that's not really what anyone's worried about in piracy discussions -- other than a few of the biggest
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No, a honey pot would be setting up a bogus torrent and tracking all the people doing purportedly illegal things. It's a trap to catch people in the act. This is just stupid.
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Keyword spamming would be closer to what they are doing, tricking people searching for [movie] + torrent into finding a result.
I remember seeing a sort of similar page when some pirate search engine got it's page impounded by the DHS/MAFIAA, so they set up a honeypot replacement site that showed your results then had links to legal sources of the movie, and if you STILL clicked on the "torrent" link, it went to a "You've Been Naughty, You're Busted" page.
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I just had a thought for what might be smarter -- put up an actual legitimate page with actual legitimate places you can purchase the content. I don't really see the point of the honeypot links at the bottom?
If someone's willing to pay for a legitimate source that they just didn't know about anyway, then the honeypot link isn't helpful. Of course a legitimate source would need to be at least streamable (if not downloadable.. ie: not send you off to a physical store or wait for shipping or whatever) and re
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They thought of that - the "legal" links are legit, they are usually buy the DVD from Amazon or stream it from NetFlix, or the app stores, etc.
The sneaky shitty part was they are in a tiny box at the bottom of the page, and the rest looks like the regular torrent search landing page, perhaps so that people won't notice the tiny box of legit links.
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Honestly, I think the MPAA should band together and offer it's own streaming service. New movies hit it as soon as the theater and start at theater prices for 24hr rentals, an algorithm monitors the purchase rate over time and automatically reduces pricing with some hard time ba
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As price falls, consumption rises. There comes a point where the product of price and units sold is maximal, and hollywood, like every other industry, devotes a great deal of money and expertise to trying to determine where this optimal price lies. No easy task, as it varies between regions and across time.
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"Not having to wait" is definitely worth something to most people. How much it is worth probably dependent on how large a sum needs to be before it is significant to you and that mostly depends on how much you have. The scheme I proposed above lets the billionaire satisfy his impulse to have the movie before everyone else but also gives the middle class their
How to do it even better (Score:4, Informative)
because.moe [because.moe] is a search site for anime streams that links directly to the legal stream options instead of serving as a pointless exercise in crying about pirates without helping either the movie companies or the consumers.
Maybe film.nl should try being useful instead of pointlessly patronizing, then people might use it.
What if there are no legal streams? (Score:5, Interesting)
So are they going to have search pages for films where a legal streaming option is actually not available?
One nice thing about classic brick-and-mortar rental stores was it was easier to get older titles (and they were cheap-cheap to rent). The back catalog on online streaming seems to not reach so far back. Rather ironic in a form of media that is so much better suited to chasing "the long tail" due to the low cost of disk storage for a streaming title.
The problem continues to be Hollywood wanting a licensing fee just for making the title available, where if they were willing to take a purely per-view fee, they would see more revenue. VOD services like Amazon could leave the title up for a $0.99 rental fee forever then.
How to use google 101 (Score:4, Funny)
Instructions (if you insist in using google):
1) Open https://www.google.com/advanced_search
2) Find all the words: "torrent" or "free"
3) None of these words: "pay" "credit card" "illegal"
problem solved :)
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Too much typing. Instead try:
1) Search on Google.
2) Click on DMCA removed results link at the bottom of the page.
The media companies are kind enough to document all places they don't want you to see. Why search for something when they'll do it for you?
Pirate keywords ? (Score:2)
Dutch film industry? (Score:2)
There's no such thing. Although the local village theatre occasionally finds itself with enough subsidy for a camera...
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What the hell are 'Pirates'? (Score:1)
If you are going to charge someone with murder, theft, rape and kidnapping on the high seas, call them 'Pirates'.
If you want to have a rational conversation about copyright infringement, don't frame the argument in favor of the MPAA and RIAA.
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Wow. There's still people trotting out the terminology non-argument in 2017? I'm impressed!
Language changes. Words obtain new meanings. Deal with it.
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Even if it isn't, nobody gives a shit. The public perception of the high seas pirate is a comical adventurer played by Johnny Depp, or a swashbuckling hero played by Cary Elwes!
Where's the legal content? (Score:4, Informative)
Specifically legal DRM-free files. I'll be all over them. My GoG library can attest to that.
*crickets*
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Frankly I don't even care if its DRM-free as long as the DRM is right the piss out of the way. I have no problem with Steam. I mean sure if they close up shop tomorrow I'll be a bit annoyed but that's got far less of a chance of happening than me scratching a CD or forgetting where I put my copy of an installer package.
I mean given the option, DRM-free is certainly preferable. But I'm not opposed to it as long as its not preventing legitimate usage (I mean someone somewhere will always have a problem wit
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You should think about the big(ger) picture. Copyright is supposed to be temporary. What is going to happen when that DRM'ed software ends up in the public domain? Are we supposed to rely on people (illegally now!) breaking DRM schemes to preserve our culture?
http://www.technologizer.com/2... [technologizer.com]
(And what is the online store's plan to preserve the different software versions?)
Also, each new DRM scheme and monopolistic store brings us closer to the end of general-purpose computing :
http://boingboing.net/2012/01/ [boingboing.net]
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Well I'm necroing a half-week-old conversation, but on the off chance that someone bothers reading it anyway, I would like to posit that this is all absolutely irrelevant:
1) As far as I know, a work entering the public domain has no direct requirement for your specific copy to be suddenly unlocked. I'm pretty sure it doesn't even require the works' owner to release it at all. Only that they can't sue you for infringement if you do manage to copy it. That's probably an unpopular viewpoint around here, but
Only partially inaccurate... (Score:3)
"Don't Wrestle With Nasty Torrents. Ignore the Rogue One: A Star Wars Story torrent,"
True enough, they're all shit. But they DO say that there are legal alternatives to stream this - which is also bullshit.