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Ecuador Acknowledges Limiting Julian Assange's Web Access (reuters.com) 412

Alexandra Valencia, reporting for Reuters: Ecuador's government acknowledged on Tuesday it had partly restricted internet access for Julian Assange, the founder of anti-secrecy group WikiLeaks who has lived in the South American country's London embassy since mid-2012. WikiLeaks said Assange lost connectivity on Sunday, sparking speculation Ecuador might have been pressured by the United States due to the group's publication of hacked material linked to U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. In a statement, Ecuador's leftist government said WikiLeaks' decision to publish documents impacting the U.S. election campaign was entirely its own responsibility, and the South American country did not cede to pressure from other nations. "In that respect, Ecuador, exercising its sovereign right, has temporarily restricted access to part of its communications systems in its UK Embassy," it added in a statement. "The Ecuador government respects the principle of non-intervention in other countries' affairs, it does not meddle in election processes underway, nor does it support any candidate specially."
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Ecuador Acknowledges Limiting Julian Assange's Web Access

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  • Curses! (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @08:06AM (#53106465)

    Assange should have signed up for the unlimited plan.

    • He could at least offer to share the utility bills. I mean the security costs for the embassy have risen a lot due to him being there, part of the broadband cost is the least he could do...

    • Re:Curses! (Score:4, Interesting)

      by omnichad ( 1198475 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @09:43AM (#53106901) Homepage

      It's still unlimited. Just throttled to 0 Kbps.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      I wonder how this is going to stop him, though. Do they really think he doesn't have a backup plan? Do they think he has all the wikileaks information on his personal laptop in the embassy without anyone else outside able to access it?

      I bet he has plenty of friends with access to the Wikileaks servers who can bring out the information on a prearranged schedule even if they made him disappear from the planet entirely. I can't possibly imagine him being that stupid.

  • There must be more than one pathway to the internet from Ecuador.
    • by Richard_at_work ( 517087 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @08:24AM (#53106523)

      He isn't in Ecuador, he's in a flat in London - whether the Ecuadorian Embassy allow him an alternative method of access is debatable at this point, they don't have to allow him the use of a mobile phone or his own line (the issue seems to be with with his actions, not with the fact that they are being done over an Ecuadorian-linked internet connection) and they can ask him to leave if he has an issue with that.

      • Legally speaking, he's in Ecuador. Not that it has anything to do with routing the Internet connection.

      • by AnalogDiehard ( 199128 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @11:07AM (#53107505)

        He isn't in Ecuador, he's in a flat in London

        Embassies on foreign soil are considered sovereign territories according to the 1961 Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations [un.org]. Assange may be physically located on UK soil, but as long as Ecuador grants him asylum he is effectively in the domain of Ecuador while inside the Embassy and no arresting party can enter the compound without Ecuador's permission. Once Assange steps outside the embassy property then he is subject to UK authority and can be apprehended.

        In the event of hostilities or soured diplomatic relations, it's a different story.

  • And yet (Score:5, Insightful)

    by nehumanuscrede ( 624750 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @08:20AM (#53106517)

    preventing the distribution of information relevant to the candidates, Ecuador effectively allows the influence to be heavily one sided.

    Specifically, the side that filters, and releases only approved material in order to promote their candidate.

    The only way we truly know who the candidates are is when we have access to information about how they think and act when they believe no one is looking.

    Everything else, is just for show.

    Personally, I don't care WHO digs up the information. Hackers, Private Investigators, whatever.

    It does boil down to this: If you're going intelligently elect a leader, you need to know all there is to know about them. There can be no secrets.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      The United States doesn't care about electing the best leader. They care about cheerleading on a party just like 1930s Germany.

    • Re: And yet (Score:3, Insightful)

      by keltor ( 99721 ) *
      Preventing the distribution of information that Hillary Clinton made speeches where she said in private the same things as she said in public? Or you mean the fact that the data surely came from Russian State Paid Actors who handed the data to WikiLeaks? I'm guessing that Ecuador is finally realizing they didn't get some great bastion of freedom in Assange, just a pompous asshole who's more trouble than he's worth. I suspect his welcome is about to be over.
      • Re: And yet (Score:5, Informative)

        by Jodka ( 520060 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @10:36AM (#53107257)

        from parent post:

        Preventing the distribution of information that Hillary Clinton made speeches where she said in private the same things as she said in public? ..."

        from one of Hillary Clinton's paid Wall Street speeches [wikileaks.org]:

        Clinton: “But If Everybody's Watching, You Know, All Of The Back Room Discussions And The Deals, You Know, Then People Get A Little Nervous, To Say The Least. So, You Need Both A Public And A Private Position.” You just have to sort of figure out how to -- getting back to that word, "balance" -- how to balance the public and the private efforts that are necessary to be successful, politically, and that's not just a comment about today.

        Not only does Hillary Clinton advocate in private paid meetings to Wall Street bankers policies opposed her own public positions, she confesses in one of those meetings that she does. The contradictions between her public statements and private statements made to Wall Street bankers are why she suppressed the release of transcripts or recordings of those paid speeches during the primary and why their release by Wikileaks has been politically damaging to her.

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by meta-monkey ( 321000 )

        You're kind of handwaving away the damaging parts of the leaks, though, aren't you?

        I don't think most people knew before the leaks that Hillary gets the debate questions from CNN ahead of time. Kind of helps prove the whole thing about politics and the media just being a biased propaganda show? Is that worthwhile?

    • Personally, I don't care WHO digs up the information. Hackers, Private Investigators, whatever. It does boil down to this: If you're going intelligently elect a leader, you need to know all there is to know about them. There can be no secrets.

      This is what scares quite a few politicians and especially ones with agendas contrary to the public interest. They do not want informed decisions, they prefer obedient and ignorant citizens. This is used on both sides.

      • I agree about exposing politicians. But the reason for the 4th Amendment is at least partly to prevent those in power from spying on political opponents to put that info to use. If only one side "gets" to do this, freedom is impossible.

        It should not be one sided either way.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      preventing the distribution of information relevant to the candidates, Ecuador effectively allows the influence to be heavily one sided.

      And, pray tell, which "one side" are we talking about? Both candidates have free access to media, advertising, TV debates, etc, nothing one-sided about that. What would be one-sided is carefully selected, carefully time leaks of information sourced by a state actor intent on destabilising the USA, which impact one candidate only, who Assange considers his enemy. That's hard

      • preventing the distribution of information relevant to the candidates, Ecuador effectively allows the influence to be heavily one sided.

        And, pray tell, which "one side" are we talking about?

        Wikileaks is leaking material only stolen from the Democrats, not anything stolen from Republicans.

        That's one sided, by definition.

        Actually, I'd very much be curious to see equivalent material stolen from the other side.

        • On the balance scale what's coming out the Republicans are balanced fairly well by what comes out of Trump's own mouth.

        • Actually, I'd very much be curious to see equivalent material stolen from the other side.

          I would, too. I suspect it would help Trump, as the RNC email would consist of the GOP establishment shitting on Trump. It would help prove his claims of a "rigged" system in the Republican primaries.

    • Re:And yet (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @08:48AM (#53106621)

      In that case, you really should be clamoring for more from TRUMP. From his medical records to his taxes, he has released less information than any presidential candidate in the last half century. His claims about why should anger you as well. He claims that every one is entitled to privacy, and that's why he shouldn't have to release any such documentation. Or he promises to release it, then doesn't. Notice, also, that these documents are common for every major presidential candidate to release. We're not even getting into the private emails or videos or whatever that you want, we're talking about commonly release documentation that allows for a basic gauge of candidate health and possible financial conflicts of interest. There are rumors swirling around of video tapes and conversations that makes the current drip of Podesta emails look like a joke, and in light of what has already been released about Trump they are more than credible.

      Look, I get what you're saying, and for the most part I agree. But I can understand Ecuador's actions. Assange has made it clear that in this case he doesn't care about silly things like government transparency or anything like that. He has a personal vendetta. If it was really about getting the information out there, the hacked data would have been released all at once, as soon as possible, so that it could be thoroughly gone through an analyzed. But Assange's own comments, and the way he has been releasing the data, make it clear that this release is entirely politically motivated.

      That political motivation, and the method by which a lot of this data has been obtained, along with the high likelihood that Assange has active connections with the hackers that obtained it, are highly problematic for Ecuador. If Ecuador allows Assange to operate out of their embassy, using their resources, in a politically motivated and illegal manner, then they can be seen as giving government approval for that task. Any state that doesn't want people meddling in its OWN elections illegally had better not do anything that can be seen as meddling in someone else's elections illegally. If they believe that Assange has obtained this information in an illegal manner, through collusion with the hackers that performed the actual hack and exfiltration, and that the use of that material is for political attacks against specific targets and is intended to influence the democratic process of another sovereign state, then for ITS OWN GOOD Ecuador MUST stop their state resources from being used in any way that can be seen as condoning those actions.

    • Re:And yet (Score:4, Insightful)

      by bloodhawk ( 813939 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @08:50AM (#53106635)
      Both candidates are corrupt scum. BUT, Assange's actions in this are deployable, he has gone from someone fighting for open and honest government to someone that is using information he has access too in a manner to influence an election. timing the releases of information to the political happenings in order to influence people makes him no better than those he is supposedly against, actually it probably makes him worse as he "was" supposedly fighting for something better.
      • Re:And yet (Score:5, Interesting)

        by rwise2112 ( 648849 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @09:54AM (#53106971)

        Both candidates are corrupt scum.

        Yeah, I think Douglas Adams had it right: "It is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it... anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job."

    • Re:And yet (Score:4, Insightful)

      by jandersen ( 462034 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @09:04AM (#53106677)

      ...If you're going intelligently elect a leader,...

      Don't you think that train has left the station a long time ago? When the media and a far too loud crowd dominate everything the way they have done, increasingly, since the days of Bill Clinton, at least, intelligent discourse doesn't stand a chance. I rather suspect that is the intention - these people do not want democracy to work, because their extremist agenda will never win in a fair and honest, democratic contest.

    • Re:And yet (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Smidge204 ( 605297 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @09:16AM (#53106751) Journal

      Personally, I don't care WHO digs up the information.

      You do, you just won't admit it.

      For example, in other posts you explicitly admit that you put more trust in foreign agencies over domestic agencies.

      So you clearly DO care, as long as it reaffirms your biases.
      =Smidge=

      • Re:And yet (Score:4, Interesting)

        by Archangel Michael ( 180766 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @11:40AM (#53107749) Journal

        Putting trust (more or less) is often based on experience (bias) but doesn't negate the possibility that the domestic sources information is legitimate.

        I have no doubt that the Trump tape is authentic, and trust it is accurate. But the press (MSM) has also been shown to be highly biased against Trump, and supportive of Hillary, and THAT information is coming from foreign sources like WikiLeaks. The fact that US press hasn't covered it much (if at all) is proof that they are not to be trusted.

        Simply put, trust isn't about quantity, it is about quality. Broken clocks are correct twice a day, and for a very brief period, I can trust that they are right. Doesn't mean I trust them the rest of the time. That is not confirmation bias, that is having an open mind to look beyond the obvious (the clock is broken, I shouldn't use it at all).

        Confirmation bias is only looking to the MSM for "news", in which case, you are unlikely to know much about WikiLeaks exposure of the corruption inside the DNC and its efforts to illegally manipulate the voters. Confirmation Bias is ignoring Project Veritas confirming the WikiLeaks information about "Bird dogging". You think the MSM is going to link those two together and put it on the front page of the NYT or Lead with it on CNN? If this was any (R), you can bet it would be.

        So, I do NOT trust the domestic MSM to do its job at all. It is fully incapable of it. That doesn't mean it isn't right twice a day. It just means that it is full of shit the other 23 hours and 58 minutes.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by budgenator ( 254554 )

      There is nothing you need to know about Hillary Clinton that isn't known, She will sleep comfortably while you are begging for help to save your life; she has absolutely zero empathy. The Clinton Foundation raked in hundreds of Millions of dollars for the Haitian Earthquake relief and did almost nothing for the Haitians with the money. Hillary Clinton is a pathological liar and that is secondary to bouncing all around the Cluster B personality disorders [wikipedia.org]. If there is a rule or a law, she will break it witho

      • Re:And yet (Score:4, Insightful)

        by rahvin112 ( 446269 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @12:51PM (#53108359)

        The same thing could be said of Trump.

          He routinely destroys small businesses by refusing to pay them (nearly every project he's ever done), he has zero empathy with any individual. He's so thin skinned that it's likely he'd start a war over a foreign leader insulting him and routinely uses his power, money and celebrity to damage those he sees as enemies. He's a bigot and a misogynist. He's also a compulsive liar so you can't believe anything he says he will do and you can only trust what he's done in the past. That includes not paying taxes, screwing every little guy he can (including fake real estate seminars that screwed the middle and lower class out of thousands of dollars), he routinely lies about doing things then doesn't do them, he routinely lies about helping people and doesn't help them. He's the epitomy of the silver spoon generation of chickenhawks.

        Given his actions and the fact he's a compulsive liar I don't know how anyone that's not a silver spoon can even trust him. Just like every time in the past he's claimed to be for the little guy then bent them over and fucked them good and hard he's going to do the same to his supporters this time. The only thing you can be sure of, Trump is for Trump.

      • Re:And yet (Score:5, Informative)

        by jbwolfe ( 241413 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @01:16PM (#53108591) Homepage

        She will sleep comfortably while you are begging for help to save your life

        You're likely just echoing conservative dogma about "Benghazigate". Do you get you get your news from any sources other that Fox? Not to diminish the tragedy, but the Obama administration's errors here (in actuality, lower level security personnel in the State Dept. rather than Clinton directly though she accepted responsibility as Sec.) was in its flawed strategic decisions regarding the size of the ambassadorial mission there and what actions to take in light of the decreasing stability. To portray Clinton as slumbering comfortably while her charges were begging for help is patently false. Further, conservative efforts to discredit Clinton through endless Benghazi hearings are disingenuous, unceasing and utterly wasteful, but shows them as the true exploiters of the tragedy. Ronald Reagan's Benghazi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombings [wikipedia.org] was not politicized at all and it happened six months after the embassy there was bombed.

        If there is a rule or a law, she will break it without a moments hesitation if she perceives the benefit in added power, money or prestige outweighs the risks.

        Opinion stated as fact. Please support with evidence... BTW, factually speaking, Trump has boasted of sexual assault and is busy right now planting the seeds of insurrection by absurdly claiming the election is"rigged"- sounds like treason (the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government) to me. Tell me who's lawless again.

        ask yourself what would it be like if she had the powers of Presidential Pardon and Executive Privilege?

        Sorry, too busy pondering what would happen if Trump were CIC. Didn't he say he would carpet bomb ISIS and steal the oil? He knows more about ISIS than "tha generals". K then, Like I said,: too busy pondering Armageddon under Trump....

    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward

      preventing the distribution of information relevant to the candidates, Ecuador effectively allows the influence to be heavily one sided.

      Do you even buy the crap your shovelling? A nation state is using assange as its toy to disrupt an election. It's completely one sided. I don't think one thing has been hacked on the republican side. Even the tax returns may have just been someone having a copy, and even then it was only a fraction of what Clinton released.

      Donald Trump got crap loads of free press to get this far, and now he is acting like a whining 3 year old and saying its all rigged. It's not. He is getting continuous crap loads of

      • The election is not rigged against the Donald.

        Yea, just like the Primaries with Sanders... Oh. wait. Ok, just because the conspiracies against Sanders during the primary was proven true doesn't mean that the DNC or Clinton campaign would do the same unethical tactics in the general...

        You are a fool.

      • The election is not rigged against the Donald. If anything it has been rigged for him.
        Even a 2nd grader can see the bias in the press against Trump. They aren't even trying to hide it anymore.
  • by DirkDaring ( 91233 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @08:25AM (#53106525)

    A little wiring and duct tape and he's good to go.

  • by sciengin ( 4278027 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @08:29AM (#53106533)

    Too bad that that actor was sponsored by the same state that gave him protection.

    Just shows how deep corruption and collusion runs internationally.

    • He's learning the downside of being no longer useful to unfree regimes.

  • Unruly house guest (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ronmon ( 95471 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @08:36AM (#53106567)

    It's like having someone stay over and he starts pissing in the neighbor's yard.

    As the host, it's up to you to keep him in line or kick him out.

  • With WikiLeaks (likely) out of play, whoever has been sending WikiLeaks the Democrats' data will either have to find another channel for release, or stop releasing. In the former case, that may give intelligence agencies a better idea of their target.

    I wonder if there was a back-channel conversation with Ecuador -- something like "Whoever is behind this, Ecuador is effectively acting as an accessory to some outside party attempting to alter the US presidential election. Is that *really* how you want us to

    • by AC-x ( 735297 )

      Why would WikiLeaks be out of play? They don't keep their servers in the Ecuadorian embassy, and they have more than just Assange on their staff.

    • by XXongo ( 3986865 )
      Yeah, the Wikileaks server isn't in the embassy, this isn't going to stop them from releasing whatever they have to release.

      Basically, I think that the Ecuadorians are getting tired of having a guy live rent-free at their embassy, never leaving the premise, and acting like a privileged scumbag. I think it was fun for them for a week, and now they're having second thoughts and thinking OMG, is this ever going to end?

  • by Kohath ( 38547 ) on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @08:56AM (#53106655)

    When you learn information about Hillary that she doesn't want you to know, it's called election interference. You people out there need to know your place and learn to just do what your designated leaders tell you. When they want you to know something, they'll tell you.

    • by swalve ( 1980968 )
      It's interference when it is being done to influence an election. Why nothing about Trump?
      • Why nothing about Trump?

        The obvious common-sense explanation is that they don't have anything particularly interesting on Trump.

        Imagine that you actually had something about Trump that was worse than what he always says in public. (I know, it's hard. But try. Maybe "grab the dick" or something.) So you send the information to Wikileaks, and they just sit on it. Weeks go by, you email Julian, "Hey, what about my leak?" and he doesn't reply.

        What would you do?

        I think you would leak through another channel.

  • If he used vi this wouldn't be a problem, he'd be able to do all his work just fine over a 300 baud acoustic coupler!

    On a serious note I still don't get what the big deal is, as even if for some reason he's not allowed to use obvious things like 3G, surely all he needs to do is co-ordinate things with other wikileaks staff over the phone?

  • From a diplomatic perspective its probably the right call for the equadorian government - haveing a person under their protection affecting the US election would be seen as interferance And of course they can use this as an example of diplomatic condut when they next have an election...
  • http://www.inquisitr.com/36092... [inquisitr.com]

    It must get lonely living in an embassy for years. Then again, there's a world full of actual adult women that you can do this with without getting into trouble.

    A lot of smoke around some people's online hero. 8 years old? Jeezuz, that's gross.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      I'm not clicking on that article, as I'm at work. But does it mention the fact that the "8-year old" Assange is alleged to have talked dirty to was signed on to a dating site using her 22-year old sister's account and profile? Because that's the story I read last night. And in that case, can we really prove that Assange was aware that he was talking to an underage girl? I'd say no. And I'd say if there even was an 8-year old involved, which I doubt, it's an obvious frame-up. Super obvious, like anyone with

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by gay358 ( 770596 )

      Don't fall for that very crudely made smearing attempt of Assange. It is incredible that they are trying to smear with this as it doesn't stand up under close scrutiny. Check for yourself about some of the details and how this is connected to Hillary Clinton:

      GUYS. THE SHILLS ARE UP TO SOMETHING WITH ASSANGE! NOT A DRILL. PLEASE LOOK! FRAMING IN PROGRESS!
      https://www.reddit.com/r/The_D... [reddit.com]

      Background and Documents on Attempts to Frame Assange as a Pedophile and Russian spy
      https://www.wikileaks.org/Back... [wikileaks.org]

      WikiLe

      • by gay358 ( 770596 )

        I recommend you to study this even more closely, but here are some of the completely unbelievable things in this smear attempt against Assange:

        "Their yellowpages site says they have been in business 5 years. http://www.yellowpages.com/hou... [yellowpages.com]
        Ok so how many times has this link been shared on reddit? I googled the URL specific to this site, and it's only come up three times. All within the last 24 hours."

        "This shady dating site claims to be the "ONLY Dating Site to ever partner with the UN Initiative" (Now tha

      • by gay358 ( 770596 )

        It seems that Hillarys campaing is usign extremely dirty tricks. Not just paying to cause violence on Trumps rallies, bussing people to vote several times, but also this pedophilia/Russian 1 million dollars smear against Assange:

        https://sli.mg/20GoW2 [sli.mg]

        https://i.sli.mg/RauCjp.jpg [i.sli.mg]

        https://wikileaks.org/IMG/pdf/... [wikileaks.org]

  • I just knew this article would provoke stimulating and well thought out ideas, in a non-partisan way.

  • by beheaderaswp ( 549877 ) * on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @09:52AM (#53106969)

    I've got mixed feelings on this.

    They are all dirty- Trump, Clinton, and Assange. We all know about Trump and Clinton.

    Assange is trying to strike out against a particular candidate, with stolen materials, which are unverified, and seeking some sort of revenge. So has become a defacto participant in the election process- as a foreign actor.

    No matter how you dice it, everyone is dirty.

    Ecuador on the other hand says: "Assange is trying to influence a foreign election from our embassy and we do not want to engage in that activity".

    The only people with principles in this American election- are apparently Ecuador. How sad is that?

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