"Most Hated Man In America" Martin Shkreli Arrested On Suspicion of Fraud (ibtimes.co.uk) 245
Ewan Palmer writes that everyone's least favorite medication price gouger, Martin Shkreli, has run into some legal problems. According to the article "Pharmaceutical start-up owner Martin Shkreli, dubbed the most hated man in the US over his controversial plans to significantly raise the price of life-saving drugs, has been arrested on suspicion of fraud. Shkreli, 32, who received widespread criticism for hiking up the price of Daraprim from $13 to $750 per pill in September, is being questioned over allegations involving stock from a company he founded in 2011. According to Bloomberg, Shkreli is accused of illegally taking stock from biotechnology Retrophin Inc to pay off debts from unrelated business dealings."
Karma! It IS a bitch! (Score:4, Funny)
This guy is going to simultaneously get himself thrown in jail AND get the pharmaceutical industry even MORE heavily regulated with his dumbass shenanigans.
Re:Karma! It IS a bitch! (Score:5, Insightful)
He'll wind up in jail, but I'm not so sure about the other part. The cynic in me thinks the 1% has thrown this little twerp to the wolves as a sacrifice. A troublemaker for the pharma profit machine goes down, the masses are sated, and the rest of the industry keeps chugging along.
Re:Karma! It IS a bitch! (Score:5, Insightful)
I think his criminal misdeeds have more to do with the financial than the pharmaceutical industry.
That said, I'm feeling some nice warm fuzzy schadenfreude about this, after what he did with Daraprim.
Re: Karma! It IS a bitch! (Score:5, Insightful)
> That said, I'm feeling some nice warm fuzzy schadenfreude about this, after what he did with Daraprim.
And that's the trap set for you. The system that allows any asshole like this to do the same thing tomorrow is still firmly in place.
Wake me up when patients can import drugs from abroad, without any hassle, to keep miscreants like Shkreli in check with competition. I'll wear my comfy PJ's as it'll be a while, as corporations continue to gouge patients, leaving the working poor without access to medicine while a few get rich.
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"Wake me up when patients can import drugs from abroad, without any hassle, to keep miscreants like Shkreli in check with competition."
As long as there are patents, this will not be possible.
You should consider a single payer system that keeps prices down by stating how much they will pay.
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It does keep it down, as the health service gets quite a discount considering it buys drugs for the entire country. You're arguing something that is patently not true.
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Don't buy into pharma's fear campaign. They want you to think that drugs purchased from another country at a cheaper rate are somehow suspect or dangerous so that you'll be happy paying extortionist prices for the same drug locally.
Their laws about buying externally and reselling internally violate the Sherman Act and should be struck down. Good luck getting that done with the bastion of corruption that's been haunting the halls of government for decades now.
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Don't buy into pharma's fear campaign. They want you to think that drugs purchased from another country at a cheaper rate are somehow suspect or dangerous so that you'll be happy paying extortionist prices for the same drug locally.
Their laws about buying externally and reselling internally violate the Sherman Act and should be struck down. Good luck getting that done with the bastion of corruption that's been haunting the halls of government for decades now.
If those drugs have been manufactured in India, then they probably are in fact suspect and dangerous.
Read about Ranbaxy's HIV drugs and their $400 million dollar fine.
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Let any yahoo sell pills to Americans over the internet with no hope of accountability.
Import restrictions and accountability are two different things.
Re:Karma! It IS a bitch! (Score:5, Insightful)
The guy is obviously a sociopath. It shouldn't surprise anyone that he's a crook, on top of being a shameless, heartless profiteer. He practically basks in his pathological condition. Sadly. jail will do nothing for him, like all sociopaths, he lacks even a basic capacity for human decency. He'll get out and immediately try to find new ways to ingratiate himself and fuck other people over.
Re:Karma! It IS a bitch! (Score:4, Informative)
The guy is obviously a sociopath.
According to Google [google.com] CEOs tend to be Psychopaths.
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Nothing prevents one from being both.
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Nothing prevents one from being both.
That would make them a schizophrenic.
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Re: Karma! It IS a bitch! (Score:3)
. Medically, there is no distinction.
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I was going to make some snide remark to the effect that you shouldn't offer to define terms you don't understand, but instead I did a bit of reading and discovered that you're actually right about the nature vs nurture thing [psychologytoday.com]. So I learned something this morning. Thanks!
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The thing that really gets my goat is that he paid $2 million for that one-off Wu Tang Clan album and didn't just share it with the world.
I hope he does hard time, but chances are he'll just go to a Club Fed and come out and get a book deal.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/m... [digitaltrends.com]
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If he just get to share cell with someone with HIV he may learn a thing or two.
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He works in the finance industry. And a CEO. Of course he's a sociopath.
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FTFY.
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When a guy kills a random person just to point out that the police can't be everywhere at the same time, he's not offering a valuable insight into society to change it, he's just a murderer being cheeky.
This guy went around literally condemning people to death because he was a greedy fuck, he doesn't deserve any sympathy and your argument is bogus.
A rational person who truly wanted to help people when he has a monopoly on fully developed drugs worth $1 a pill, bought from a company who already jacked up the price 10fold just one year earlier out of greed, doesn't jack the price up 700 times to make a point about the state of the industry. A rational person who wants to help sells the pills for $1 a pop, so as to maximize the good they do to individual suffering people.
Re:Karma! It IS a bitch! (Score:5, Insightful)
after what he did with Daraprim.
Bring the nation's attention upon a thoroughly broken system that has been quietly abused for years? (see: people getting their medicine from Canada, guess why)
Re:Karma! It IS a bitch! (Score:4, Funny)
This is really pretty interesting. My parents have trended pretty seriously right wing since moving to Arizona for retirement. They absolutely hated the idea of Obamacare, every single healthcare reform that the Democrats proposed they would shoot down. But they buy their prescriptions in Mexico. That, friends, is literally what George Orwell called "doublethink." And damned if I know how to break its hold.
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Until the day the customs do an inspection and confiscate the meds because they aren't labeled right.
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This is really pretty interesting. My parents have trended pretty seriously right wing since moving to Arizona for retirement. They absolutely hated the idea of Obamacare, every single healthcare reform that the Democrats proposed they would shoot down. But they buy their prescriptions in Mexico. That, friends, is literally what George Orwell called "doublethink."
I used to think you were pretty smart, but now I suspect I was just biased by your low Slashdot ID. There is nothing inconsistent about being opposed to Obamacare and also purchasing your medication from Mexico. The ACA is a handout for insurance companies which does nothing to improve the overall state of health care in the country because it does nothing to increase the number of care providers, and we already had too few of them before the ACA. Mexico is one of the world's larger markets for pharmaceutic [pharmaceut...nology.com]
Re:Karma! It IS a bitch! (Score:5, Insightful)
The basic idea behind Romneycare/Obamacare is sound, the implementation of it seems to be painfully flawed. The rest of the modern world solves the major costs of healthcare through taxes and requires the pharmacies to offer the cheapest variant of a specific drug (different manufacturers have to compete) to push down costs.
Healthcare in the US is a sick story.
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The basic idea behind Romneycare/Obamacare is sound,
What? No, no it is not. The basic idea behind the ACA is to keep the insurance companies in the loop, when they are the single thing most harmful to health care in this country. The ACA is an inherently shit idea, bought and paid for by corporations, and supported by idiotic sycophants incapable of connecting the dots.
the implementation of it seems to be painfully flawed. The rest of the modern world solves the major costs of healthcare through taxes and requires the pharmacies to offer the cheapest variant of a specific drug
Yeah, you don't get it do you? The rest of the world has something which looks nothing like the ACA. The ACA isn't a flawed implementation, it's corrupt by design.
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It's the worst of both worlds - universal coverage with the prices of private healthcare. It's a first world joke.
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I don't care much for the affordable care act, and I'm in favor of allowing people to buy medication from wherever the hell they please. There's no "doublethink" here. I'm just a free market guy.
The question is not really what they're allowed to do, because they seem perfectly content to import foreign medicines illegally. The question is why should they feel compelled to do that if the US healthcare system is so perfect it shouldn't be tampered with?
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Bring the nation's attention upon a thoroughly broken system that has been quietly abused for years?
Crime is crime, greed is greed and so on. This guy didn't idealistically bring his own livelihood in danger to highlight the failings of "the broken system". That's like saying the bankers who undermined our economy with irresponsible practices driven by shortsighted greed were heroes - it's a disingenious argument.
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That said, I'm feeling some nice warm fuzzy schadenfreude about this, after what he did with Daraprim.
I have some pills that can manage your schadenfreude. Unfortunately as it's an orphan drug so I've decided to jack the price up to $5000 if you want to avail of them.
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I think "cynic" is an understatement. What exactly do you think "the 1%" is? A made-up term for a group of particularly well-off individuals, or a secret society who actually meet and organise under that name, and could orchestrate this entire thing in the name of controlling public opinion?
Stay on the medication.
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Of course, rather than a pursuit of justice, for what seems like the majority of CEOs do. Nothing at all new, pretty much the expected norm of behaviour (the banskters stole 1000s of times as much) and what they generally get away with in a compliant regulatory framework, full of rich lawyers and lobbyists. Then of course this douche, compared to all the others, is new to the scene and has no family worth speaking of and hence, he must suffer for bringing to the public's attention of the abuses in the phar
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Burn the wrong person and you will get a backfire that makes a serious mark.
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If Karma works like it should, he'll end up poor and/or in jail, catch a fatal disease that can be cured by one of the medications for which he jacked up the price, but then be unable to afford it.
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Re:Karma! It IS a bitch! (Score:5, Funny)
"Regular karma means he's going to reincarnate as a cockroach."
Hey, that's pretty unjust: being a cockroach twice in a row.
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This guy is going to simultaneously get himself thrown in jail AND get the pharmaceutical industry even MORE heavily regulated with his dumbass shenanigans.
Don't you think some regulation is long due if a company has the power to raise the price of a drug by over 5700%, just like that?
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Hello Marty (Score:5, Funny)
Maybe his plan was to become the most hated (Score:4, Interesting)
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/12/17... [cnbc.com]
I'm shocked! (Score:2)
Shocked to find that he would be involved in fraudulent activities!
Say Hello to Bob! (Score:2)
And now, he gets to meet a number of former Enzyte customers...
Hollywood vs. Reality (Score:2)
You listen to some people and you get the idea that the business world is run by Gordon Geckos, that Hollywood caricatures of capitalist villains are the reality and the norm and that the greedy bastards who would do anything to take one dollar more control corporate America.
Then a person who is really like that actually shows up, and only then, by comparison, do we realize again that the others are not. Every few years some of these guys climb out from Hell to remind us of that. It is Martin Shkreli
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I'm going to go ahead and ask for a citation showing that there's a CEO of a major corporation who's not a "greedy bastard who would do anything to take one dollar more".
I mean, for chrissake, it's in the job description.
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I'm going to go ahead and ask for a citation showing that there's a CEO of a major corporation who's not a "greedy bastard who would do anything to take one dollar more".
You want someone to prove a negative. Honest, decent business owners are not news, which means they must be the norm.
I mean, for chrissake, it's in the job description.
Only in the fictitious "job descriptions" that you write in your head to justify your hate for them. In the real world, no, that is not "in the job description".
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Honest, decent business owners are not the same as CEO's of major corporations. I was specific.
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Studies show that the business world is run by psychopaths: CEOs higher on measurements of psychopathy than inmates at a hospital for the criminally insane. [independentaustralia.net]
Wait until he sees his legal bills! (Score:4, Funny)
http://www.newyorker.com/humor... [newyorker.com] ;-)
Give this Guy a Protozoal Infection! (Score:3, Insightful)
Give this guy a nice itchy, squirmy, oozing protozoal infection, put a prescription of Daraprim in front of him with a price tag on it that reads the amount of profit he enjoyed from jacking up the costs.
He can have the pills after a few weeks when the insurance company would authorize the payment.
What a surprise! -Said no one ever (Score:2)
Most hated man in America? (Score:2)
He isn't as smart as he thinks he is (Score:2)
the drug was unprofitable at the former price, so any company selling it would be losing money
That is a really lame excuse to buy out a company and jack up the price of their product. He really should have just said "we did it because we can, and we knew nobody would stop us". If he really thinks he can fool the world with that line of bullshit he'll get another thing coming later. After all, if the product was such a loser, the proper thing to do would be to allow the market to take over and allow t
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After all, if the product was such a loser, the proper thing to do would be to allow the market to take over and allow the company to fail, no?
What more needs to be done to "allow the market to take over" when a drug is "not subject to any unexpired patent"? (ref) [wikipedia.org] Any company that wanted to cut into the market could have started manufacturing and selling it for less.
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After all, if the product was such a loser, the proper thing to do would be to allow the market to take over and allow the company to fail, no?
What more needs to be done to "allow the market to take over" when a drug is "not subject to any unexpired patent"? (ref) Any company that wanted to cut into the market could have started manufacturing and selling it for less.
My point is that he is trying to claim this was driven by his altruistic humanistic interests when quite plainly that is not the case. There is no contesting that he bought the company to make money. He can try to weasel out of it any way he wants, but the facts are out there for all to see. Why did he need to interfere with the company who previously made it? Why is he interfering with the market this way?
Just as you said someone could have come in and undercut the original manufacturer, someone cou
This just in... (Score:2)
http://www.newyorker.com/humor... [newyorker.com]
If only...you couldn't maximize the karma any further. :)
LINKS of interest (Score:2)
Re:Cross Obamacare (Score:5, Interesting)
He was not rounded up because he was gouging poor people for 1000x what they could ever afford to pay for medicine.
He was rounded up because he stole from rich people 1/1000 of what they could afford to lose.
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"But this guy was singled out for a reason."
He's not part of an affluent family with high level connections, he makes the perfect sacrificial lamb to appease the commoners in an election year. He can be ran through the wringer (if that's what you want to call the few months to a couple years he'll likely get) without significant political fallout and it gives the commoners the illusion that something is being done. Not that he doesn't deserve significant prison time, but he is an insignificant part of a m
Re:Cross Obamacare (Score:5, Informative)
Did you even READ the article? Well of course not, this is slashdot and you are a reactionary moron with a political agenda.
The guy ran a company that went bankrupt. In the process of running this company is falsified return numbers and lied to investors. He then went on to do a full on ponzi scheme where he brought in new investors to pay off previous investors while lying about what he did the entire time. Then he joined a pharmaceutical company (not his current employer) and proceeded to steal money from them to pay off investors from the failed company.
This former employer has sued him in court and laid out in gory details the entire ponzi scheme, his theft and lies to all the people involved and his eventual embezzlement from them. The feds then began an investigation based on the lawsuit. This all started MONTHS before the whole scandal with trying to fuck children and aids patients out of $80K a month.
Everything he did is not one bit different that what Bernie Madoff did. This guy is a complete and total asshole who should be in jail for a VERY long time.
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"If Obamacare has to pay by law, every drug company should raise their prices 10x. It's free money. They would be stupid not to."
Hummm... it makes sense. If only we could test it real world before putting it in practice in USA...
Hey, wait a second! Now that I think of it, there *are* other countries, a vast majority in fact, that already have socialized healthcare in place. Surely they'll demonstrate your thesis!
Now, wait *another* second: how is it that all those other countries get better prices from big pharma than USA? It can't be coz you are wrong, can it?
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This sends a clear message: Screw with the costs for Obamacare and we will find a way to take you down. If they looked hard enough, they'd be able to enough to bring in a good percentage of pharmaceutical CEO's. But this guy was singled out for a reason.
If Obamacare has to pay by law, every drug company should raise their prices 10x. It's free money. They would be stupid not to.
Consider fundamental economics. The price found is a function of supply and demand.
More demand, less supply, price goes up.
More supply, less demand, price goes down.
All supply, one buyer...buyer's market = set's the price willing to pay.
This is why it works in one payer countries.
So long as you continue to believe that such 'socialist' ideas are bad (not really your fault as you've been indoctrinated to think this since you were in diapers), you will be stuck with a system that fucks you every which way.
I know its off topic but... (Score:5, Insightful)
its sort of weird how people condone male rape in jail as just a part of the process but if this was a women going to jail no one would be cheering or begging for her to get raped....
Sorry, I just get tired of seeing people make remarks like the one posted....and yes, this dude should totally get thrown into the worst jail we can send him. Although its not like he's much different from the rest of the scumbag pharma companies out there....
Re: I know its off topic but... (Score:5, Insightful)
This always bugged me too. Like, is anyone really of the impression that US jails don't suck enough? And that rape is a proper and just punishment? It's really fucking crazy.
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He's hated for buying the rights to drugs from scumbag pharma companies who were selling those drugs cheap, in some cases below cost, and raising the price thousands of percent.
Pharma companies are just like any others. Sometimes they do bad things, and sometimes they do okay things. This guy only seems to do bad things.
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Jail rape hardly ever happens in the white collar prison he'd be going to. Now a federal "Pound-me-in-the-ass" prison, on the other hand... Actually it doesn't happen as much as people think it does there, either.
In a survey of 1,788 male inmates in Midwestern prisons by Prison Journal [wikipedia.org], about 21% claimed they had been coerced or pressured into sexual activity during their incarceration, and 7% claimed that they had been raped in their current facility.
âoeWe all know that rape and sexual assault are the most underreported crimes in the world, and itâ(TM)s very hard to say that the problem is declining [huffingtonpost.com]," Christopher Krebs, a sexual violence researcher at nonprofit research institute RTI International, told S
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its sort of weird how people condone male rape in jail as just a part of the process but if this was a women going to jail no one would be cheering or begging for her to get raped....
Depends, would the woman in question have hiked up the price of life critical medication by several 1000% all to make an extra buck?
What you have there is observer bias. We don't discuss this about women typically because women aren't the ones put in a position where we absolutely detest them and consider them the lowest scum of the earth.
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http://www.rawstory.com/2015/0... [rawstory.com]
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He was charged with securities fraud. He will probably plead to a year in Club Fed and probation thereafter.
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Sure, but none of those sites have Beta.
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Call us when you're old enough to have actually been through a jury selection.
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which could probably be said to an even greater degree for dozens of trials per year. For example, we know of Jury members in the George Zimmerman trial who went into the trial with the wish to find him guilty, that that was their sole concern with the whole affair.
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I know. You'd think a News Aggregator site like Slashdot would beat the actual News to the punch!
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You know that Martha Stuart went to jail because she wasn't smart enough to shut up when talking to investigators, not because of the actual insider trading? They caught her in a lie and that's a big no-no when you don't want to spend years in prison.
I don't think Mr Hedge Fund would do the same mistake.
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Wrong.
The nuances in Stewart’s case ultimately drove the government to back down from charging her with insider trading. Instead, it focused its case on the lies she told to cover the trade.
http://coveringbusiness.com/20... [coveringbusiness.com]
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Re:A fine example (Score:4, Insightful)
There he goes again, letting his childish, irrational hatred pollute another discussion. Grow up, you tiny-minded fool. Your children won't thank you for being so intellectually lazy.