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Without Registration, Swedish Law Does Not Protect Wikileaks Sources 86

An anonymous reader writes with word that Wikileaks, which currently stores a lot of their material on servers in Sweden, may not be as safe there as once believed. From the above linked article (from April): "Wikileaks is benefiting form Sweden's basic law 'Grundlag' on the freedom of print information, because it also guarantees the anonymity of sources in digital media, say sources at the European Parliament. In Sweden, if a website registers with the public authorities and can prove it has an editor-in-chief, then it can also be protected under the law, argues the parliamentary source." Says the anonymous submtter, "However, it seems Wikileaks never registered with the public authorities (article in Swedish; here it is auto-translated to English), and thus is not protected by the freedom of print information basic law even if they do have an editor-in-chief."
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Without Registration, Swedish Law Does Not Protect Wikileaks Sources

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  • "Grundlag" (Score:5, Informative)

    by dsavi ( 1540343 ) on Saturday August 07, 2010 @10:55AM (#33173496) Homepage
    It literally means Sweden's constitution.
  • Original source (Score:4, Informative)

    by akanouras ( 1431981 ) on Saturday August 07, 2010 @11:16AM (#33173630)

    Original source [sydsvenskan.se]

    Fucking rumour starters at it once more.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 07, 2010 @11:26AM (#33173684)

    If the source reveals itself, then nothing in the world can restore anonymity for it, no law, no technology, no nothing. The point of the article is that the press can not be compelled to reveal their sources under Swedish law, so if Wikileaks became a registered publication and knew who their sources are, then they would not have to reveal them. That however is a strawman argument. Wikileaks is operated in a way to facilitate anonymous "leaks". The less they know about the sources, the better the source is protected.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 07, 2010 @11:35AM (#33173742)

    www.wikileaks.com has OLDER news than wikileaks.org

    Why is that? Why 2 different sites for 2 different domains? I thought they pointed to the same news?

  • WikiLeaks Denies (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 07, 2010 @11:46AM (#33173812)

    http://twitter.com/wikileaks/statuses/20558340142

    I really know little about the matter, but I thought it was worth pointing out that WikiLeaks is refuting this claim.

    CAPTCHA was "spinners".

  • by Cothol ( 460219 ) on Saturday August 07, 2010 @12:06PM (#33173986)

    Another Swedish newspaper (Sydsvenskan) has a well written article in english here [sydsvenskan.se]

  • FUD (Score:3, Informative)

    by dcollins ( 135727 ) on Saturday August 07, 2010 @12:25PM (#33174134) Homepage

    "An anonymous reader writes with word that Wikileaks..."

    Sounds like FUD.

  • Re:So register (Score:4, Informative)

    by Zironic ( 1112127 ) on Saturday August 07, 2010 @12:42PM (#33174242)

    No, you have to register with the authorities to be considered a Newspaper. Once you're qualified as a newspaper your sources are protected by law making it illegal for the government to investigate them. Obviously the newspaper itself can't be anonymous, but their sources can be.

  • Re:"Grundlag" (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 07, 2010 @12:55PM (#33174310)

    wrong it literally translates to "foundation law" not "ground law"

  • Re:So register (Score:4, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 07, 2010 @01:06PM (#33174390)

    Please let me clarify.

    If you become a registered publisher in Sweden all your sources anynomity are protected by the law. Your anynomity is however not.
    The interesting part about Swedens laws about protecting sources is that it is illegal for the publisher to tell who his sources is so the source will not need to trust the publisher completely. It is also illegal to ask the publisher about his sources so the police, government or anyone who want to track the source cannot do so through the publisher.
    The law is made to protect the sources, not to protect the middlemen. (There are other laws for that.)

  • Re:"Grundlag" (Score:4, Informative)

    by arth1 ( 260657 ) on Saturday August 07, 2010 @01:17PM (#33174456) Homepage Journal

    Och hur vet du det?

    Your apparent belief that "ground" doesn't mean "foundation" or "base" like "grund" does in Swedish, and that you thus have to use "foundation" is... groundless.

    "Foundation law" is stilted. We say "ground rules", and "ground law" follows the same semantics.

    That "ground" also shares the same etymology as "grund" makes it an even better literal translation.

  • Re:"Grundlag" (Score:3, Informative)

    by Hazelfield ( 1557317 ) on Saturday August 07, 2010 @04:35PM (#33175554)
    You have to notice though, that there's a difference between the American constitution and the Swedish Grundlag in that the Swedish one doesn't enjoy the protection of a Supreme Court. In the U.S., proposed legislation can get struck down by the Supreme Court if found unconstitutional. In Sweden there is Lagrådet with a similar function, except it doesn't have the ability to overrule the Riksdag (the parliament that writes the laws). It can only issue recommendations to the Riksdag, who may very well decide to ignore them.

    In other words, there's nothing to prevent the parliament from accepting legislature that blatantly conflicts with the constitution.
  • Re:FUD (Score:3, Informative)

    by Kidbro ( 80868 ) on Saturday August 07, 2010 @08:12PM (#33176912)

    Perhaps. But the story has been covered by every major Swedish newspaper the last few days.

    Svenska Dagbladet [www.svd.se]
    Dagens Nyheter [www.dn.se]
    Göteborgsposten [www.gp.se]
    Sydsvenskan [sydsvenskan.se]

    It's the Chancellor of Justice [wikipedia.org] that is being quoted...

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