RIAA Loses $222K Verdict 342
jriding writes "The $222,000 verdict against Jammy Thomas for copyright infringement by P2P is no more. US District Court Judge Michael Davis dismissed the verdict, saying it was based on the faulty 'making available' theory of distribution."
Re:So What's Next? (Score:5, Informative)
Thomas will face a new trial, in which the RIAA will have to prove actual distribution.
It's in the first fucking paragraph of the article!
Technically . . . (Score:5, Informative)
Re:woo! (Score:5, Informative)
Not so much; they will try her again, but they have to prove actual distribution. Note that the judge also lowered the bar for actual distribution, in a sense. Our pet theory of MediaSentry acting as an agent of the RIAA, and therefore doesn't constitute distribution, was also explicitly discarded:
âoedistribution to an investigator, such as MediaSentry, can constitute unauthorized distribution.â
Not So Fast (Score:5, Informative)
WRONG. (Score:4, Informative)
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/09/not-for-publica.html
Still, Judge Davis' decision does not derail the RIAA's case against Thomas on retrial or any other pending or future case. Davis ruled that the downloads from Thomas' open share folder that RIAA investigators made, 24 in all, "can form the basis of an infringment claim."
Or how about http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/25/jammie_thomas_again/ [theregister.co.uk]
The judge in Jammie Thomas' challenge to her landmark $220,000 fine for sharing music over KaZaa has declared a mistrial, forcing yet another court case.
I don't expect Joe Blo's blog to get this right, but I do expect ZDNet and Slashdot to.
Re:Let the flood gates be opened (Score:5, Informative)
From the article:
One important tidbit, little noticed yet, pointed out by Excess Copyright: [blogspot.com] "distribution to an investigator, such as MediaSentry, can constitute unauthorized distribution."
Re:Let the flood gates be opened (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Technically . . . (Score:3, Informative)
The Act was intended to penalize "competitor's" who engaged in the infringement where income was earned on the enterprise, not so much a consumer who is actually getting nothing in the process
That's funny, because I thought the DMCA specifically put in ridiculous sums of money where consumers were doing the pirating. They might have justified it by saying that it was for use with corporations, but the way I read it leaves little doubt in my mind that they wanted it used against consumers as well.
Re:Let the flood gates be opened (Score:4, Informative)
A whole new trial is what I get from RTFA.
From the judgement:
Re:Technically . . . (Score:4, Informative)
Possibly, but the primary goal of the DMCA was to target companies or individuals who produce tools to assist consumers in copyright violations, not the copyright-violators themselves.
Re:Let the flood gates be opened (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Let the flood gates be opened (Score:2, Informative)
However, there will still probably be a guilty verdict at the end... The judge chimed in saying that distribution to an investigator such as MediaSentry still provides basis for claims. If they can prove that then don't they essentially have the verdict?
Re:woo! (Score:4, Informative)
Of course they are biased: they are the plaintiff's witness. That is irrelevant. However,
Minnesota does require that private investigators have state licenses. If MediaSentry was indeed acting as a private investigator and was not licensed it is probable that none of their testimony or evidence is admissable at all. Unfortunately this was not brought up at the first trial and so the judge may not allow it to be brought up at the second.
Slapping down the $240 as unreasonable (Score:2, Informative)
Courts routinely slap down punitive damages that are 10X the actual damages as being grossly unreasonable. Treble damages are the norm, so right now, she owes $72.
An opinion from one of our own (Score:3, Informative)
Ray Beckerman's (a.k.a. NewYorkCountryLawyer) comments can be viewed here [blogspot.com]
Apparently legal efforts like his are starting to pay off.
Re:Call me cynical (Score:1, Informative)
You can thank Leahy for that one. I am ashamed that my senators are co-sponsors...
As a side note, COPS would certainly become more interesting if the FBI showed up for every domestic violence case...
Re:Good for her (Score:5, Informative)
"What's fucked up though is that a pirate who illegally downloads 10 songs has created a potential revenue loss of about $15 bucks to the record companies. But the record companies want to sue that individual for $15,000. The punishment does not fit the crime."
The record companies are generally suing folks (including Ms. Thomas) for distributing -- or, at the least, making them available for distribution.
You're 100% correct that Jammie downloaded relatively few songs -- but that's not the issue. When she downloaded them, they were placed into her share directory (possibly without her knowledge) where they were available to others.
We don't do favors by repeating the notion that people are being sued for "downloading." The record companies are generally dishonest; let's not fight that with more dishonesty. If I run over your cat with my car, I might take some heat for killing the cat; it would be incorrect to state that I got in trouble just for driving a car.
Re:Good for her (Score:2, Informative)
Inadequate summary? (Score:2, Informative)
All well and good... but I fail to understand why was this summary accepted instead of the more appropiate and insightful summary [slashdot.org] submitted by NewYorkCountryLawyer?
Re:An opinion from one of our own (Score:3, Informative)
Ray Beckerman's (a.k.a. NewYorkCountryLawyer) comments can be viewed here [blogspot.com][blogspot.com] Apparently legal efforts like his are starting to pay off.
Thank you, dkleinsc. Yes, as Cmdr Taco wryly observed, the tide is turning.
Now what we need is for more people to fight rather than settle, more lawyers to join this worthy cause, and for people to exploit the rich panoply of defenses that are available to them, such as the fact that the RIAA can't collect statutory damages at all if the recording was not registered with the Copyright Office by the time the defendant began file-sharing [blogspot.com].
Re:$222K is NOTHING (Score:4, Informative)
-the RIAA has gone after ~40,000 people
-it's gotten around 25,000 default judgments
-it's collected almost nothing on the default judgments
-it's gotten around 10,000 settlements at an average of $3000, for a total of $30 million
-it's spent around $100 million.