What's weird is no one is defending people burning buildings. Everyone thinks that those people should be arrested - and in some cases you can see them being restrained by BLM protestors and turned over to the police. The difference is people who burned buildings during the protests made up a negligible percentage - heck even people attempting to push past police barricades made up a negligible percent. Capital protestors who committed federal trespassing (at a minimum) and pushed past police made up 100%.
They didn't just "enter a federal building without permission" and you know it. They wanted to kidnap members of congress and overturn an election. And yes that is insurrection and yes that is way way worse than a mere riot.
And no one said burning buildings was OK. What people are saying is that the building burners were a very small part of a very very large movement. If you're going to taint an entire movement by the 0.01% of worst actors you can find many of whom
There were hundreds of thousands at the Trump rally (a "very very large movement" in your words). Less than 300 were arrested for entering the capital. And of those who entered the capital, most of them had no intention whatsoever to "kidnap members of congress and overturn an election". Have you seen some of the videos posted inside the capital? Most of them were there to make their voice heard and maybe take a few selfies. Some of the ones arrested were actually left-wing activists trying to stir up
You're just saying no u but you're inventing facts.
There were not hundreds of thousands, that is a gross exaggeration. And many of the ketone arrested for rioting at the blm protests were people who turned up just for rioting. The insurrectionists were there for the insurrection.
Ironically the same people who claim that the tiny minority of people burning buildings are representative of BLM also get quite upset when you point out that a somewhat less tiny minority of GOP/Trump supporters are white supremacists and QAnon believers.
But how many of those rallying for Trump at the Capitol believed, falsely, that Trump had won the election?
Who cares? That only tells us what percentage of them were dumbshits who didn't bother to learn any facts. One presumes that it was almost all of them, though.
Watch Trump's defence in the most recent impeachment kangaroo court. They provided proof to the Senate that Democrat politicians were supporting and encouraging BLM riots.
Harris even fundraised for them. I can't remember if that was presented at the trial too, but you can do your own research on that one.
Ha ha! from your own link: "Far from encouraging violence, both women have condemned the violence that sometimes occurred at last summer’s police brutality protests, which were overwhelmingly peaceful."
And the whole article was about how trumps legal team was using deceptive quotes taken out of context. Great source you got, no wonder you wouldn't come up with anything.
I didn't mean "name any prominent politicians" I meant "Show prominent politicians saying the things you claim to". Because you're either misinformed or lying.
Were you not aware that Kamala Harris personally led a drive to bail out violent rioters who went right back to lighting fires the next day? I guess you didn't watch the impeachment.
Were you not aware that Kamala Harris personally led a drive to bail out violent rioters who went right back to lighting fires the next day? I guess you didn't watch the impeachment.
You've been lied to. Kamala Harris voiced her support for donating to the Minnesota Freedom Fund [snopes.com]. This is an organization [mnfreedomfund.org] which tries to fight the income-inequality and racial bias of the bail process. This same organization would have helped with bail for any of your buddies who stormed the Capitol Building provided they met their criteria. If you can't support an organization like this, you certainly do not believe in "all men are created equal".
No, she wasn't. She was supporting raising funds to bail out peaceful protestors that were arrested en masse when the police decided to snag everyone visible when some bad actors did some bad shit. You know, like when you were in the lunch line at school and a couple of kids got into a fight over whether the sloppy joe was better than the cardboard pizza, and the principal came and took your entire class out of line for a talking. But in this case, they all went to jail. It's important to be able to protest
Capital protestors who committed federal trespassing (at a minimum) and pushed past police made up 100%.
Citation required.
I have no idea how many people were there and how many pushed past barricades or entered capitol. However, it is extremely unlikely it was 100%, as looking at the pictures and the size of the crowd I would guess they simply would not all fit inside.
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they should have just burned some small businesses (Score:0, Troll)
instead of filing neatly into the Capitol building. Then they would have just been classified as a peaceful protest and allowed to get away with it.
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What's weird is no one is defending people burning buildings. Everyone thinks that those people should be arrested - and in some cases you can see them being restrained by BLM protestors and turned over to the police. The difference is people who burned buildings during the protests made up a negligible percentage - heck even people attempting to push past police barricades made up a negligible percent. Capital protestors who committed federal trespassing (at a minimum) and pushed past police made up 100%.
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You're being disingenuous and you know it.
They didn't just "enter a federal building without permission" and you know it. They wanted to kidnap members of congress and overturn an election. And yes that is insurrection and yes that is way way worse than a mere riot.
And no one said burning buildings was OK. What people are saying is that the building burners were a very small part of a very very large movement. If you're going to taint an entire movement by the 0.01% of worst actors you can find many of whom
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There were hundreds of thousands at the Trump rally (a "very very large movement" in your words). Less than 300 were arrested for entering the capital. And of those who entered the capital, most of them had no intention whatsoever to "kidnap members of congress and overturn an election". Have you seen some of the videos posted inside the capital? Most of them were there to make their voice heard and maybe take a few selfies. Some of the ones arrested were actually left-wing activists trying to stir up
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You're just saying no u but you're inventing facts.
There were not hundreds of thousands, that is a gross exaggeration. And many of the ketone arrested for rioting at the blm protests were people who turned up just for rioting. The insurrectionists were there for the insurrection.
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Ironically the same people who claim that the tiny minority of people burning buildings are representative of BLM also get quite upset when you point out that a somewhat less tiny minority of GOP/Trump supporters are white supremacists and QAnon believers.
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But how many of those rallying for Trump at the Capitol believed, falsely, that Trump had won the election?
Who cares? That only tells us what percentage of them were dumbshits who didn't bother to learn any facts. One presumes that it was almost all of them, though.
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Names of those "prominent politicians"? Because I assume you are misinformed or lying.
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Listing names does not prove your accusation, show some proof.
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Watch Trump's defence in the most recent impeachment kangaroo court. They provided proof to the Senate that Democrat politicians were supporting and encouraging BLM riots.
Harris even fundraised for them. I can't remember if that was presented at the trial too, but you can do your own research on that one.
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So you don't have any proof, maybe a link?
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I told you where to find the evidence. I just can't be arsed digging up a link myself.
Sorry for not spoon feeding you. This isn't school.
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i looked and didn't find what you were describing. post a link to back up your claim or get lost.
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You need to improve your search skills.
https://www.independent.co.uk/... [independent.co.uk]
I've backed up my claim, so you're welcome to fuck off.
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Ha ha! from your own link: "Far from encouraging violence, both women have condemned the violence that sometimes occurred at last summer’s police brutality protests, which were overwhelmingly peaceful."
And the whole article was about how trumps legal team was using deceptive quotes taken out of context.
Great source you got, no wonder you wouldn't come up with anything.
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Nonetheless they said it. They didn't deny it at the time.
I'm sorry that I had actual evidence to support me. Now fuck off.
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Trump Delusion Syndrome -Sad!
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I didn't mean "name any prominent politicians" I meant "Show prominent politicians saying the things you claim to". Because you're either misinformed or lying.
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If that happened, you could probably link to her drive materials to gather bail money, right? Speeches, newsletters, etc.
It didn't happen, so you cannot. But if it did you could.
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Oh dear.
https://twitter.com/kamalaharr... [twitter.com]
Now fuck off with your constant attempts to deny reality.
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Were you not aware that Kamala Harris personally led a drive to bail out violent rioters who went right back to lighting fires the next day? I guess you didn't watch the impeachment.
You've been lied to. Kamala Harris voiced her support for donating to the Minnesota Freedom Fund [snopes.com]. This is an organization [mnfreedomfund.org] which tries to fight the income-inequality and racial bias of the bail process. This same organization would have helped with bail for any of your buddies who stormed the Capitol Building provided they met their criteria. If you can't support an organization like this, you certainly do not believe in "all men are created equal".
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Oh please. Snopes? Really?
She was raising funds to bail out people arrested for burning a fucking city down.
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No, she wasn't. She was supporting raising funds to bail out peaceful protestors that were arrested en masse when the police decided to snag everyone visible when some bad actors did some bad shit. You know, like when you were in the lunch line at school and a couple of kids got into a fight over whether the sloppy joe was better than the cardboard pizza, and the principal came and took your entire class out of line for a talking. But in this case, they all went to jail. It's important to be able to protest
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YMMV, people circulated http://ally.tools/ [ally.tools] with exactly such defense at work.
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Capital protestors who committed federal trespassing (at a minimum) and pushed past police made up 100%.
Citation required.
I have no idea how many people were there and how many pushed past barricades or entered capitol. However, it is extremely unlikely it was 100%, as looking at the pictures and the size of the crowd I would guess they simply would not all fit inside.