I don't suppose anyone is going to come up with an argument saying that they are in the theaters with their camcorders excersizing their right to time shift...:)
"I don't suppose anyone is going to come up with an argument saying that they are in the theaters with their camcorders excersizing their right to time shift...:)"
So theoretically, would this make it worth your while to kill anyone who noticed you using the camcorder, if there was, say, a 60% chance that killing them allowed you to successfully escape? There must be some probability threshold before a "manslaughter-equivalent" jail sentance for videoing makes it worth your while to do bad things if you get caught...
How does the person sitting next to you in the cinema feel about this, compared to say, the managing director of the company who invested in the film?
Well, perhaps SOME probability threshold, but since the charge would not be "manslaughter" but "first-degree murder" with the possibility of the death penalty, you'd have to think you had a pretty high chance of getting away with it in the middle of the theater to make it worth your while. This also assumes you had no additional moral objection to it.
No, not first-degree murder. That implies some form of forethough and planning. It would most likely be second degree, because you saw the guy, panicked about going to jail, and killed him to escape. So it's only, what, 20 to life instead of 25 to life?
Don't watch much law & order do you? Killing someone while committing another felony is first degree murder. Forethought, does not require rigorous planning, getting caught and thinking "Gee I'd better kill this guy cause he caught me" is plenty of forethought for a murder conviction.
Yes and I, as a hardened criminal learned everything about the law by watching TV...
I don't know how truthful Law + Order is, but I expect reading up will hold more sway over the sceptics!
Answer: There are several types of first degree murder, all of which are defined by A.R.S. 13-1105.
The first definition of first degree murder is causing the death of another person with either the intent or knowledge that the conduct will cause death and with premeditation. Premeditation is often described as 'malice aforethought,' which basically means that you probably considered the consequence of your conduct for at least a second before you committed the act.
he second definition of first degree murder is causing the death of another person while committing or attempting to commit another crime like sexual conduct with a minor, sexual assault, molestation of a child, various drug-related crimes, kidnapping, burglary, arson, robbery, escape from jail, child abuse, or unlawful flight from a pursuing law enforcement vehicle, or while fleeing from the scene where you committed any of these offenses.
The exact list of crimes on there varies from state to state.
>>How does the person sitting next to you in the cinema feel about this....
Probably not all that great since once you have been arrested, if your neighbor did not turn you in, he could be charged as an accessory.
Just remember, folks, that this is the sort of problems that our appointed leaders are spending their time and energy (and your tax money) on. Not on fixing the economy, not on getting us out of a ficticious war, not on improving healthcare or our general way of life. But making the world s
I wasn't aware that I had raised an objection. In fact, I don't have any objections to it, other than the fact that it is a matter better left to the states - one that does not merit federal enforcement. The point of my post is that this is a waste of resources and a distraction (or is it an excuse) from the more pertinent problems facing this country.
As for "overstuffing trolls", you truly are deluded if you think that the invasion of Iraq is "just" and "handsomely won". The fact that even after two years
there were no weapons, there was no connection to Al-Qaeda, and there was no imminent threat to the US
None of these would've been my reasons. None should've been yours. For 11 years Saddam Hussein was demonstrating, he could keep getting away with breaking a cease fire agreement with US. Such demonstrations are extremely dangerous for they encourage other thugs to bluff with us. Clinton should've attacked him years ago [bbc.co.uk].
... Ann Coulter tells you.
Ha-ha! So, you prefer Ted
Rall [yahoo.com]? Actually, I suspect, him
He says don't believe anything an accredited news organization and a published author tells you, then says to do a google search for proof.
I'll stick with the caveat that you don't believe everything on the internet, thank you.
And just in case, wait a moment while I tweak google to display my proof of why 1+1 = 3 as a concrete fact. And I've got this piece of property on the moon you'd be able to purchase from my website as well.
You're an obvious Bush-basher troll. So bugger off.
The national debt is roughly on track with the GDP. It's not good, but it's not the disaster you seem to think it is.
The federal legislature has more than enough time to deal with many issues. Do not encourage them to take on more, because about 70% of federal money aready does more damage than good, and new activity all goes to the damage side.
What seemed most odd was the "unanimous" part of it.
Every single person in congress agreed that recording a film was worth 10 years in prison. Just note, they're depriving the artist of approximately $10 in revenue per person who watches their copy. Take the number of people who watch such a film, divide it into the amount of money stolen by enron, and multiply by 10 years to get the correct prison sentance for enron execs. Will it happen? Is copying a CD still depriving the artist of $350,000 per CD
Kind of makes me skeptical of claims that only Republicans are lapdogs for Big Business.
Where did you hear that crazy shit? All the politicians are lapdogs for big business that should be obvious to anybody with a scrap of sense at this point.
The Dems are (generally) in the pocket of the entertainment industry who get stupid shit like this and the DMCA passed.
The Republicans are (generally) in the pocket of the energy and weapons industries who get millions of people killed to jack up profits and in the
There is a man here in Minnesota who was pulled over recently for what will be his 23rd DWI.
The strib article mentioned that he had been imprisoned for the second one in...wait for it...2002. It is now the middle of 2004 and he has obviously been released again in order to go for his 23rd.
Why does someone who makes a shitty quality copy of a movie deserve a MINIMUM sentance thats greater than the time served by a man who has been caught drinking and driving without license or inssurance and endangeri
That's interesting. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:That's interesting. (Score:4, Insightful)
So theoretically, would this make it worth your while to kill anyone who noticed you using the camcorder, if there was, say, a 60% chance that killing them allowed you to successfully escape? There must be some probability threshold before a "manslaughter-equivalent" jail sentance for videoing makes it worth your while to do bad things if you get caught...
How does the person sitting next to you in the cinema feel about this, compared to say, the managing director of the company who invested in the film?
Re:That's interesting. (Score:1)
Re:That's interesting. (Score:1)
Re:That's interesting. (Score:1)
Re:That's interesting. (Score:2)
I don't know how truthful Law + Order is, but I expect reading up will hold more sway over the sceptics!
Re:That's interesting. (Score:3, Informative)
The second definition of first degree
Re:That's interesting. (Score:3, Interesting)
The exact list of crimes on there varies from state to state.
Int
Still no cure for cancer (Score:2, Offtopic)
Probably not all that great since once you have been arrested, if your neighbor did not turn you in, he could be charged as an accessory.
Just remember, folks, that this is the sort of problems that our appointed leaders are spending their time and energy (and your tax money) on. Not on fixing the economy, not on getting us out of a ficticious war, not on improving healthcare or our general way of life. But making the world s
Re:Still no cure for cancer (Score:1, Flamebait)
Re:Still no cure for cancer (Score:1, Offtopic)
As for "overstuffing trolls", you truly are deluded if you think that the invasion of Iraq is "just" and "handsomely won". The fact that even after two years
Re:Still no cure for cancer (Score:-1, Offtopic)
None of these would've been my reasons. None should've been yours. For 11 years Saddam Hussein was demonstrating, he could keep getting away with breaking a cease fire agreement with US. Such demonstrations are extremely dangerous for they encourage other thugs to bluff with us. Clinton should've attacked him years ago [bbc.co.uk].
Ha-ha! So, you prefer Ted Rall [yahoo.com]? Actually, I suspect, him
Re:Still no cure for cancer (Score:0)
He says don't believe anything an accredited news organization and a published author tells you, then says to do a google search for proof.
I'll stick with the caveat that you don't believe everything on the internet, thank you.
And just in case, wait a moment while I tweak google to display my proof of why 1+1 = 3 as a concrete fact. And I've got this piece of property on the moon you'd be able to purchase from my website as well.
You're an obvious Bush-basher troll. So bugger off.
Re:Still no cure for cancer (Score:0)
I don't think you'd know life if it slapped you in your face.
Re:Still no cure for cancer (Score:2)
The federal legislature has more than enough time to deal with many issues. Do not encourage them to take on more, because about 70% of federal money aready does more damage than good, and new activity all goes to the damage side.
Re:Still no cure for cancer (Score:2)
Every single person in congress agreed that recording a film was worth 10 years in prison. Just note, they're depriving the artist of approximately $10 in revenue per person who watches their copy. Take the number of people who watch such a film, divide it into the amount of money stolen by enron, and multiply by 10 years to get the correct prison sentance for enron execs. Will it happen? Is copying a CD still depriving the artist of $350,000 per CD
Unanimity (Score:2)
Actually, I think it was just the Senate at this time.
But you have a good point about the lopsided vote. Kind of makes me skeptical of claims that only Republicans are lapdogs for Big Business.
Re:Unanimity (Score:1)
Where did you hear that crazy shit?
All the politicians are lapdogs for big business that should be obvious to anybody with a scrap of sense at this point.
The Dems are (generally) in the pocket of the entertainment industry who get stupid shit like this and the DMCA passed.
The Republicans are (generally) in the pocket of the energy and weapons industries who get millions of people killed to jack up profits and in the
Re:Still no cure for cancer (Score:2)
Every single person in congress agreed that recording a film was worth 10 years in prison.
So, how long until stealing a loaf of bread is worth 20 years?
Re:Still no cure for cancer (Score:2)
The strib article mentioned that he had been imprisoned for the second one in...wait for it...2002. It is now the middle of 2004 and he has obviously been released again in order to go for his 23rd.
Why does someone who makes a shitty quality copy of a movie deserve a MINIMUM sentance thats greater than the time served by a man who has been caught drinking and driving without license or inssurance and endangeri
Re:Still no cure for cancer (Score:2)
Or a hand...