What country are YOU living in? Here in America (by which I mean the USA and Canada), punishment rarely fits the crime. If you steal a billion dollars from investors, you'll be asked to retire and pay a fine. Steal a hundred dollars from a liquour store, and you'll get twenty years in jail.
Pirating films isn't white-collar enough to warrant a light sentence. The only crimes that have stiff sentences are the ones that wealthy people don't commit.
What country are YOU living in? Here in America (by which I mean the USA and Canada), punishment rarely fits the crime. If you steal a billion dollars from investors, you'll be asked to retire and pay a fine. Steal a hundred dollars from a liquour store, and you'll get twenty years in jail.
Pirating films isn't white-collar enough to warrant a light sentence. The only crimes that have stiff sentences are the ones that wealthy people don't commit.
What hole are you living in? Last I checked if you get c
Name two people who are actually doing REAL prison time for defrauding investors.
Why? Typically people who ask for things like that will simply dismiss any names given as not being REAL enough.
Here's a list of names - you can decide for yourself if the penalties they faced or face are REAL enough to suit you: Andrew Fastow, Michael Milken, Ivan Boesky, Dennis Levine, Martin Seigel, Ben Glisan, Michael Kopper. And many, many more.
Here's a list of names - you can decide for yourself if the penalties they faced or face are REAL enough to suit you:
There is a huge difference between Club Fed and a real prison. Plus the people you refer to kept a shitload of the money they stole making it well worth their while. So, no, that is nowhere near real enough when people who sell flowers from certain plants do hard time in real prisons.
There is a huge difference between Club Fed and a real prison.
LOL. Man, can I call it or what? So you're "dismissing it as not being REAL enough", then?
Plus the people you refer to kept a shitload of the money they stole making it well worth their while.
I don't even know you at all, and yet I'll confidently predict that you just pulled that little factoid straight out of your dark and smelly place. Why don't you post some numbers to back that contention up, if you can.
There is a huge difference between Club Fed and a real prison.
Well, he sort of has a point. Maybe you should have been more specific and said Name two people who are actually doing time in "rape me in the ass prison" for defrauding investors.
Or perhaps a better question would be why are some of our prisons so awful, and isn't it counter-productive that they turn petty criminals into violent criminals? To say nothing about why do we joke about prison rape.
Well, I guess I'm one of those who dismisses the names because they're not real. At least, they don't meet the grandparent comment's objectives of "people who are actually doing REAL prison time". Andrew Fastow's prison time was delayed as part of his plea bargain. He didn't want to be in jail at the same time as his wife, because then his children would've had to go into foster care or live with a relative or something. So he's not doing time NOW. Yes, he will be
You'd get less time... (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm not standing up for the crime, but isn't the punishment supposed to match it?
Sickening...
What Country are YOU living in? (Score:5, Insightful)
Pirating films isn't white-collar enough to warrant a light sentence. The only crimes that have stiff sentences are the ones that wealthy people don't commit.
Re:What Country are YOU living in? (Score:1)
Pirating films isn't white-collar enough to warrant a light sentence. The only crimes that have stiff sentences are the ones that wealthy people don't commit.
What hole are you living in? Last I checked if you get c
Name one person. (Score:2)
Re:Name one person. (Score:5, Informative)
Why? Typically people who ask for things like that will simply dismiss any names given as not being REAL enough.
Here's a list of names - you can decide for yourself if the penalties they faced or face are REAL enough to suit you: Andrew Fastow, Michael Milken, Ivan Boesky, Dennis Levine, Martin Seigel, Ben Glisan, Michael Kopper. And many, many more.
Re:Name one person. (Score:2)
There is a huge difference between Club Fed and a real prison.
Plus the people you refer to kept a shitload of the money they stole making it well worth their while. So, no, that is nowhere near real enough when people who sell flowers from certain plants do hard time in real prisons.
Re:Name one person. (Score:2)
LOL. Man, can I call it or what? So you're "dismissing it as not being REAL enough", then?
Plus the people you refer to kept a shitload of the money they stole making it well worth their while.
I don't even know you at all, and yet I'll confidently predict that you just pulled that little factoid straight out of your dark and smelly place. Why don't you post some numbers to back that contention up, if you can.
The Liberal Media [airameric
Re:Name one person. (Score:1)
Well, he sort of has a point. Maybe you should have been more specific and said Name two people who are actually doing time in "rape me in the ass prison" for defrauding investors.
Or perhaps a better question would be why are some of our prisons so awful, and isn't it counter-productive that they turn petty criminals into violent criminals? To say nothing about why do we joke about prison rape.
Federal Prisons are a lot "nicer" than the a
0 for 3 for the ones I looked up (Score:1, Interesting)
Well, I guess I'm one of those who dismisses the names because they're not real. At least, they don't meet the grandparent comment's objectives of "people who are actually doing REAL prison time". Andrew Fastow's prison time was delayed as part of his plea bargain. He didn't want to be in jail at the same time as his wife, because then his children would've had to go into foster care or live with a relative or something. So he's not doing time NOW. Yes, he will be
Re:Name one person. (Score:2)