Yet Darrell Luzzo, senior vice president of Junior Achievement, defends the industry's antipiracy program by saying it's not meant to cover all aspects of copyright law. Rather, the idea is to encourage student debate. ''We are learning ways to enhance classroom discussions."
I don't know, back in the dim and distant past when I were a lad, it was considered harmful to use brainwashing and coercion in education. I guess that's the price you pay for progress though. I hear they're moving onto aversion ther
I don't know, back in the dim and distant past when I were a lad, it was considered harmful to use brainwashing and coercion in education.
I Pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America
and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
No, you can pledge all you like. But government agents (i.e. teachers) can't lead children in a statement that asserts the existence of God. There are gray areas of the establishment clause, but this one isn't even close.
You forget that this country was mostly established by Christians. Christians don't just assert the existence of God, they believe it. To Christians, it's illogical to say that the pledge is unconstitutional for saying a fact (that God exists).
To Christians, it's illogical to say that the pledge is unconstitutional for saying a fact (that God exists).
That God exists isn't a fact to anyone - not even Christians. It is a belief to them. That's the whole point of any religion. If it were a fact and not a belief then it would be a science and not a religion, and you woulndn't need faith to believe it.
If someone tells you that something is a fact, then surely it's reasonable to say that "to them, it is a fact"? That might mean "they believe that it is a fact", but they themselves may consider it a fact rather than a belief.
The religious consider it a fact rather than a belief? I'm not following you there. Belief in something with no proof whatsoever requires faith. Faith is the foundation of religion.
You seem to be splitting hairs over my definition of the word 'believe', but that wasn't my point...
"That God exists isn't a fact to anyone - not even Christians. It is a belief to them."
Not at all. It is a fact that God exists, it is merely one that cannot be proven. A fact does not only become a fact when it is proven. A fact has always been a fact, no matter who doesn't know it.
Not at all. It is a fact that God exists, it is merely one that cannot be proven. A fact does not only become a fact when it is proven. A fact has always been a fact, no matter who doesn't know it.
The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition would disagree [reference.com] with you:
fact ( P ) Pronunciation Key (fkt) n.
1. Knowledge or information based on real occurrences: an account based on fact; a blur of fact and fancy.
2.
a. Something demonstrated to exist or known
Not at all. It is a fact that God exists, it is merely one that cannot be proven. A fact does not only become a fact when it is proven. A fact has always been a fact, no matter who doesn't know it.
At best its a hypothesis that god exists. A conjecture at least, but not a fact as there is not even circumstantial evidence to allow anyone to entertain that god exists...as a fact.
A distance star is a fact to many, to a reasonable degree of certainty, as it has evidence that it exists which in plain view. D
Bull----, I know this guy who's hot-rod was built by Jesus.
The purpose of faiths is to keep the public happy. This is where the communists made a mistake and the one you are making. Once you remove faith from people then you remove hope.
I think you probably just stepped in it here on accident, but the purpose of faiths are not to control the public, they are to challenge the individual to find his/her own. The churches may have agendas, the government may have agendas, priests, nuns and devil worshipers
I agree with you here on this my complaint was with the god is a fact statement from the parent joker.
Using the fact of a sequence of words and then saying that because those sequence of words exists as a fact then the sematic content as it would be interpreted by an english language reader for those words as also being a fact is sophistry.
The next time he misses a credit card payment then he needs to simply conjure up a fact of it being paid. I'm sure the card company will accept that fact exists like
Well, they do say, that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
God exist. We can take this as fact.
God is actually the Devil seen in the Bible, who actually managed to overthrow God in that big battle they had once, but felt it would be smarter to pretend he lost anyway.
Since you cannot disprove this except by using the Bible (which is history, and history is written by the victors - in this case the Devil), you have stepped into a quagmire.
It is a fact that God exists, it is merely one that can
But," says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it?... Oh dear," says God,
"I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic....
The amount of weight an evangelist carries with the almighty is measured
in billigrahams.
Onwards and upwards... (Score:5, Interesting)
I don't know, back in the dim and distant past when I were a lad, it was considered harmful to use brainwashing and coercion in education. I guess that's the price you pay for progress though. I hear they're moving onto aversion ther
Re:Onwards and upwards... (Score:5, Insightful)
I Pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Re:Onwards and upwards... (Score:0, Troll)
Re:Onwards and upwards... (Score:5, Informative)
No, you can pledge all you like. But government agents (i.e. teachers) can't lead children in a statement that asserts the existence of God. There are gray areas of the establishment clause, but this one isn't even close.
Re:Onwards and upwards... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Onwards and upwards... (Score:5, Insightful)
That God exists isn't a fact to anyone - not even Christians. It is a belief to them. That's the whole point of any religion. If it were a fact and not a belief then it would be a science and not a religion, and you woulndn't need faith to believe it.
Re:Onwards and upwards... (Score:2)
The religious consider it a fact rather than a belief? I'm not following you there. Belief in something with no proof whatsoever requires faith. Faith is the foundation of religion.
You seem to be splitting hairs over my definition of the word 'believe', but that wasn't my point...
Re:Onwards and upwards... (Score:3, Insightful)
Not at all. It is a fact that God exists, it is merely one that cannot be proven. A fact does not only become a fact when it is proven. A fact has always been a fact, no matter who doesn't know it.
Re:Onwards and upwards... (Score:2)
The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition would disagree [reference.com] with you:
Re:Onwards and upwards... (Score:2)
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2c is in the past tense. Read the example. It does not override the other definitions.
Re:Onwards and upwards... (Score:3, Interesting)
At best its a hypothesis that god exists. A conjecture at least, but not a fact as there is not even circumstantial evidence to allow anyone to entertain that god exists...as a fact.
A distance star is a fact to many, to a reasonable degree of certainty, as it has evidence that it exists which in plain view. D
Re:Onwards and upwards... (Score:1)
The purpose of faiths is to keep the public happy. This is where the communists made a mistake and the one you are making. Once you remove faith from people then you remove hope.
I think you probably just stepped in it here on accident, but the purpose of faiths are not to control the public, they are to challenge the individual to find his/her own. The churches may have agendas, the government may have agendas, priests, nuns and devil worshipers
Re:Onwards and upwards... (Score:2)
Using the fact of a sequence of words and then saying that because those sequence of words exists as a fact then the sematic content as it would be interpreted by an english language reader for those words as also being a fact is sophistry.
The next time he misses a credit card payment then he needs to simply conjure up a fact of it being paid. I'm sure the card company will accept that fact exists like
Re:Onwards and upwards... (Score:2)
Re:Onwards and upwards... (Score:2)
God exist. We can take this as fact.
God is actually the Devil seen in the Bible, who actually managed to overthrow God in that big battle they had once, but felt it would be smarter to pretend he lost anyway.
Since you cannot disprove this except by using the Bible (which is history, and history is written by the victors - in this case the Devil), you have stepped into a quagmire.
It is a fact that God exists, it is merely one that can
Re:Onwards and upwards... (Score:2)