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Sticky Tape Defeats Sony DRM Copy Protection 464

cybrpnk2 writes "As reported by InformationWeek, Sony BMG Music's controversial copy-protection scheme can be defeated with a small piece of tape. According to thinktank Gartner analysts Martin Reynolds and Mike McGuire, Sony's XCP technology is stymied by sticking a fingernail-size piece of opaque tape on the outer edge of the CD. 'After more than five years of trying, the recording industry has not yet demonstrated a workable DRM scheme for music CDs. Gartner believes that it will never achieve this goal as long as CDs must be playable by stand-alone CD players.'"
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Sticky Tape Defeats Sony DRM Copy Protection

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  • by CyricZ ( 887944 ) on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @03:05PM (#14093030)
    Does using tape in such a fashion violate the terms of the DMCA? If so, could the tape manufacturers be held responsible for making a product that potentially aides in piracy?

  • Damn yo (Score:4, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @03:06PM (#14093031)
    This would be a good place to say something insightful, but the headline has me dumbfounded.
  • by Zegnar ( 704768 ) on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @03:06PM (#14093037)
    And they always said that home taping would kill the music industry...
  • I'm off to short 1000 shares of 3M.
  • by GweeDo ( 127172 ) on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @03:07PM (#14093049) Homepage
    Sony/BMG sued 3M Corporation today for their new technology called "tape" to circumvent their copy protection and encryption schemes. They will be tried under the DMCA, news at at 11!
    • Re:In other news... (Score:3, Informative)

      by einhverfr ( 238914 )
      Sony/BMG sued 3M Corporation today for their new technology called "tape" to circumvent their copy protection and encryption schemes. They will be tried under the DMCA, news at at 11!

      In other news, Sony/BMG sues Microsoft for allowing the "autorun" feature to be turned off. When the autorun feature is turned off, Sony's DRM doesn't install properly and this can be used to circumvent it, the music giant said in a statement.
    • by Mr2cents ( 323101 ) on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @04:37PM (#14094245)
      Now *that* is a sticky situation...
  • Please! (Score:2, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward
    Can we talk about Apple or Google instead 'cause I'm feeling depressed.
  • foot (Score:2, Funny)

    by towsonu2003 ( 928663 )
    where is the foot icon above the sony icon?
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @03:08PM (#14093062)
    Here's what you can do to defeat it without risking your optical drive: Hold shift when inserting the disc or, even better, disable CD autostart. But that wouldn't make such a nice headline, would it?
    • by BenFranske ( 646563 ) on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @03:12PM (#14093119) Homepage
      I think once upon a time there was a similar revelation that running a black marker around the edge would do the same thing. Really you're just interfering with the drive reading the data portion of the disc so it appears just as an audio disc. The parent is correct, the shift key or turning off autorun works just as well. They don't make headlines though.
      • by Enzo the Baker ( 822444 ) on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @03:22PM (#14093217)
        No no no. Running a green marker around the edge of your CD is for making it sound better.
        • by __aajfby9338 ( 725054 ) on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @03:47PM (#14093489)
          I know a guy who insists that degaussing his CDs (i.e., with a magnetic tape eraser) makes them sound better. I $#!^ you not!! I tried to be reasonable and explain how many ways that is wrong, but he insisted that I just have a tin ear. Well, I guess I better go turn in my Master's degree in electrical engineering, because it's no match to his Golden Ear.

          As if that wasn't absurd enough, he later told me how he breaks in his AC power cords by running a current through them before using them on his stereo, because otherwise the sound is too, well, I don't even remember what adjective he used. Yellow? Impudent? Octagonal? Whatever. He said that a new electrical outlet takes even longer to break in. OMFGBBQ! I'm ashamed to say that at that point I completely lost the ability to debate rationally with him and try to educate him, and told him what an idiot he is. Well, at least he doesn't bother to ask me any electronics-related questions any more.

          Sometimes I find myself thinking that I should invent some electrical snake oil to liberate audiophools from their excess money, but I just don't want to sink that low.

          • by LWATCDR ( 28044 ) on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @04:38PM (#14094268) Homepage Journal
            What a moron! He uses CDs! Real audiophiles know that records have a much warmer sound than CDs. CDs are so digital sounding! Real audiophiles stick to analog recording with real tubes. I bet this guy doesn't even have the 1000lbs granite slab to mount is equipment on so he doesn't get vibrations from passing trucks and stuff! What a poser.
            And yes there are people like that and no for the love of all that is holy I am not one of them! It is a joke, true but a joke.
          • by Hoi Polloi ( 522990 ) on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @04:50PM (#14094438) Journal
            Sell him some "special" 00 grit sandpaper and tell him to scrub the labels off of his cds with it. Tell him that it'll make the cd lighter and the sound "clearer".

            Make sure you get a good headstart before he destroys his cd collection.
  • by CyricZ ( 887944 ) on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @03:09PM (#14093073)
    Indeed, these scenarios show just how artificial restrictions on knowledge and information are. It is impossible to try to make such an inherently abundant resource scarce, in order to derive profit.

    • by kfg ( 145172 ) on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @03:37PM (#14093384)
      " ". . .it will never achieve this goal as long as CDs must be playable by stand-alone CD players.'" "

      Well, obviously all they need to do is put a stop to this sort of nonsense.

      KFG
      • all they need to do is put a stop to this sort of nonsense.

        But for HD-DVD/Blu-ray and SACD, all players will support DRM. It won't be nonsense then.

        (At least until DVD Jon gets his hands on their so-called "encryption"... ^_^ )
  • by gelfling ( 6534 ) on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @03:10PM (#14093089) Homepage Journal
    Only outlaws will have office supplies.
  • by scovetta ( 632629 ) on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @03:10PM (#14093090) Homepage
    Illegal technology, outlawed by DMCA:
      * Sticky Tape
      * Magic Markers
      * Shift Keys

    When will these companies learn? 3M, Sharpie, and Dell-- stop trying to get me to break the law!!!
    • You forgot:
        * Non-Windows (or OSX) OSes
        * Non-x86 (or PPC for OSX) CPUs
        * User accounts that do not have software and driver install privileges
        * Disabling autorun (gpedit.msc -> Admin Templates -> Turn Off Autoplay = Enabled for all)
  • Easier way (Score:5, Informative)

    by nsayer ( 86181 ) <`moc.ufk' `ta' `reyasn'> on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @03:10PM (#14093096) Homepage
    Last time I had to defeat the usual sort of multi-session CD DRM I just used a whiteboard pen. It's helpful because if you go to far in (and start losing the last track), you can just rub little bits off until you get it just right.
  • Right with the Shift-Key guy. HACKERS!
  • And in related news (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Billosaur ( 927319 ) * <wgrotherNO@SPAMoptonline.net> on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @03:11PM (#14093102) Journal

    ...shares of 3M rose by 15 points

    From Information Week: According to Gartner analysts Martin Reynolds and Mike McGuire, Sony's XCP technology is stymied by sticking a fingernail-size piece of opaque tape on the outer edge of the CD.

    Ok, if I'm a Sony exec, do I feel very stupid right now?

    From Gartner: After more than five years of trying, the recording industry has not yet demonstrated a workable DRM scheme for music CDs. Gartner believes that it will never achieve this goal as long as CDs must be playable by stand-alone CD players.

    And being the music industry, they will not give up. Like lemmings to the sea. Really, there's nothing they can do. If someone can create software to copy-protect a CD, some enterprising soul can create software to defeat it.

    They'll keep it up, because they will be in a blind panic at the idea of their profits drying up, even though they could spend time and effort creating some kind of shared, P2P music publication system whereby they could make money and people could get the music they wanted. But that's just one man's opinion.

  • Low tech hacks (Score:4, Informative)

    by Chr0nik ( 928538 ) on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @03:11PM (#14093104)
    Gotta love it. Almost as cool as the captain crunch whistle.... well, not quite.
  • by Wakko Warner ( 324 ) * on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @03:11PM (#14093106) Homepage Journal
    seriously

    these guys are better than that insane chick on 'trading spouses'
  • I predict (Score:4, Insightful)

    by LWATCDR ( 28044 ) on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @03:12PM (#14093109) Homepage Journal
    That it will be impossible as long as CDs are playable!
    What is next will Sony try and outlaw mics and wires?
    Dear Sony. I will not steal your music. In fact I will not listen to or buy your music anymore. I am sure that eventualy artists will move to a label that treats it's customers with a bit more respect.

    • by amigabill ( 146897 ) on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @03:47PM (#14093496)
      > I am sure that eventualy artists will move to a label that treats it's customers with a bit more respect.

      Sony will likely call your bluff here, as they know there is no such thing today as a label that treats its customers with any respect.
  • This is, however, probably in violation of DMCA.

    "Alright, buster, how did you get around it?" "Look, Sarge! Tape! He's got a roll of tape!"
    "You rebel scum!"
    I bet I can overcome their DRM by not wanting anything from that list of albums, too.

  • by tchuladdiass ( 174342 ) on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @03:12PM (#14093114) Homepage
    Has there been any Audio CD drm put out that doesn't rely on the auto-run feature of Windows? I remember reading something about one method that would put defects in the disc that would be filtered out by an audio CD player, but I haven't seen any reports if that would affect cd-paranoia.
    In other words, since I do all my music work using Linux, do I need to worry about any of the protection methods currently out there?
    I'd like to see a list of all the drm methods that are "in the wild" along with their prevalence and effectiveness agains various OS's & tools.
    • The glaring problem that the record companies don't seem to grasp is that if a CD player can read it, then you can get the audio from it. There is no way around this really. Pirates have a lot of resources too, so even if these companies manage to stop casual ripping the groups will still put the music out there. The best the music companies can hope for in future formats is that pirates will have to resort to analog copying (which with good equipment is still high quality) but I don't think it will even
    • Well, there was that one that killed slot-loading iMacs... :)
    • I don't remember whether it was the first Anastacia album or Shakira's "Laundry Service". When my g/f bought them, I just *had* to rip them just due to the "copy protected" sticker, although I was not quite keen on having that stuff on my HTPC.

      First attempt: Pioneer Slot-in DVD drive. That one just didn't like the disk: I wasn't even able to read the CD, as the drive made funny noises faintly reminding to 1541 (that's the C64 floppy drive for you youngsters) read errors.

      Second attempt: Plextor. No probl

      • by multipartmixed ( 163409 ) on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @03:54PM (#14093601) Homepage
        > the drive made funny noises faintly reminding to 1541
        > (that's the C64 floppy drive for you youngsters) read errors.

        It may have been the very same thing.

        The 1541 would recover from read errors by telling the stepping motor to position the head WAY past the outer track. Of course, this would cause it to bang it repeated against the cam stop. This would insure that the head was properly aligned for track zero (and probably why those damned drives went out of alignment so often!). Then, it would count forward the right number of tracks, and try to read the data again.
    • by iamnotaclown ( 169747 ) on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @03:55PM (#14093619)
      Has there been any Audio CD drm put out that doesn't rely on the auto-run feature of Windows? I remember reading something about one method that would put defects in the disc that would be filtered out by an audio CD player, but I haven't seen any reports if that would affect cd-paranoia.

      Yes, there is. There are a few different versions of this, but the general idea is to intentionally put bad data in the tracks (or the TOC) that would be error-corrected out by an audio CD player, but cause a CD-ROM to fail while attempting to read it. Some modern CD-ROM drives still have trouble with this type of copy control. Since the error correction layers have been subverted, the tiniest scratch will usually render the CD unplayable.

      More info here: http://www.cdrfaq.org/faq02.html#S2-4-3 [cdrfaq.org]

    • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @06:04PM (#14095332)
      Audio CD Protections, in brief:

      - Zeroth Generation (the Click Generation):

      * Weak Sectors in ATIP: TTR Technologies MusicGuard (never deployed)

      Flat out doesn't work at all, you probably wouldn't even notice they'd done anything. Any Lite-On, BenQ or Plextor wouldn't even skip a beat. Only CD-ROM tested which even gave a damn was a Sony (heh), the drive in the PlayStation 1 to be precise. Didn't get a contract, so TTR partnered with Macrovision, and tried harder. Much harder. Much too hard, in fact.

      * Weak Sectors causing C2 Errors in Audio: TTR Technology/Macrovision SAFEAUDIO (limited deployment), Settec Alpha-Audio D-Type (data type, never deployed)

      Extremely rare, no longer used; the market overwhelmingly rejected it, which is to say, it broke a music exec's speakers. High channel return rate because of obscenely low compatibility, duplicators returning whole batches as bad pressings because they couldn't perform any useful QA on discs deliberately damaged to this extent. Useless. (TTR apparently liquidated.)

      Archiving: Alternate CDFS.VXD tools for Win9x may work, as they interpolate in exactly where SAFEAUDIO puts corruption. Other than that, deliberate damage = not perfectly playable, or rippable. Effectively an analogue medium with huge deliberate noise spikes. Use a mint disc, do the best you can, and high-order-interpolate over the scratches (Adobe Audition or something), just like archiving vinyl.

      - First Generation (The Anti-CD Generation):

      Archiving all first-generation formats merely needs a Good Drive and Good Software with Good Settings. Can be divided into roughly three groups:

      * High Jitter Spike: Cactus Data Shield (classic): CDS-100/CDS-200, First4Internet XCP-Aurora XCP "Red"

      (0'09", insert bad CIRC sector, 1200 weak sector/desync, 2 *blank* sectors with no sync, then start again with normal data.) Intent: Cause a "hiccup" during a burstmode rip which would be absorbed by a CD player's (tiny) buffer. Reality: Any quality drive firmware, buffer, or jitter correction, means you won't even skip a beat. Might slow down a little, but that's all. Now only marketed for internal releases/promos.

      * Malformed TOC/Evil Session with no player: Early Sony key2audio (1.0), Settec Alpha-Audio S-Type (session type), First4Internet XCP-Aurora XCP1

      Bread and butter, it's simple; include a normal or malformed TOC, and sprinkle liberally with a seriously malformed second session, relying on CD-ROMs being multisession and CD players being single session only.

      * Malformed TOC/Evil Session with autorun player: Sony key2audio, SunnComm MediaClòQ

      Differs from the above only in the second session being malformed, but having a valid data track containing a DRMv2 WMA player (or downloader). Players have evil EULAs, and may interfere with ripping while the player is running (although the first version of the key2audio player that appeared actually shifts the session enough to allow flawless ripping while the player is running...!) but as far as known, they don't leave behind malicious software.

      - Second Generation (The Autorun Generation):

      Rate of returns was still high, so Macrovision tried a weaker system with a much higher false negative, but a much lower false positive. Actually caught on; almost no returns. They could actually put the CD logo on these if they wanted.

      * Valid CD-Extra with autorun player: Macrovision CDS-300, Macrovision TotalPlay CD, Alpha-Audio M-Type (main type)

      Player (MS-DRMv2, as usual) interferes with ripping (while it's running) but doesn't seem to leave any malicious software behind. If the autorun isn't run (disable it, or hold SHIFT while inserting CD and be careful in Explorer) or supported, it's a normal CD-Extra. First session is valid Red Book.

      - Third Generat
  • pics (Score:3, Interesting)

    by towsonu2003 ( 928663 ) on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @03:12PM (#14093118)
    i'd like to see some picture-demonstration for the less language-savvy.
  • Not a smart solution (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Rude Turnip ( 49495 ) <valuation AT gmail DOT com> on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @03:13PM (#14093122)
    Gee, all I need to do to avoid the backdoor* software is to stick a piece of tape to the CD and risk the tape coming off and damaging my CDROM drive?

    BTW, when explaining the Sony CD fiasco to non-techie folk, using the term "installs a backdoor" seems to be very effective.
    • by saskboy ( 600063 ) on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @03:33PM (#14093344) Homepage Journal
      You're right that the tape is a bad idea. If someone does try it though, at least put a balancing slice on the opposite side of the disc. You don't know strange and loud until a CD EXPLODES in your CDROM drive. I've seen the remaining disc after an explosion, and sand almost has bigger pieces than some of what's left.

      Also in describing the Sony Rootkit problem it's good to mention that the disks are "infected with DRM". The person won't know what DRM is, but it helps to associate it with a bad word like "infection". And in the case of the Sony CDs, it's not overhyping the facts either, so your conscience can remain clear.

      Bottom line is, "these discs are designed to infect a computer with DRM, which breaks Windows, and lets Sony and viruses take over your computer."
  • by archiereed ( 933183 ) on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @03:13PM (#14093129)

    In 2003 some of the HP Labs researchers looked at the related issues and published a paper titled: "If Piracy is the Problem, Is DRM the Answer?" http://www.hpl.hp.com/techreports/2003/HPL-2003-11 0.pdf [hp.com]

    You might find the white paper interesting if you've not read it before. This caused quite a stir when it was released, both inside and outside HP, and is still quite relevent in light of the Sony issue. This provides an counterpoint even inside HP where we try to maintain some form of management across all the issues.

    The conclusion reads:

    "We pointed out that unauthorized use and unauthorized acquisition are two aspects of piracy. A key concept is how licenses are bound to content. We saw that various kinds of DRM technology address these issues in very different ways, but that all of them have some kind of flaw that make it highly unlikely that they will be able to solve the problem of piracy. The real problem with piracy is that it takes only a small fraction of users who are capable of dissociating licenses from content to make managed content available to a significant fraction of users in unmanaged form.

    We explored the concept of draconian DRM in which devices that handle managed content do not handle unmanaged content at all. Draconian DRM could potentially be effective at eliminating piracy if it were ubiquitously adopted, but introduces a new problem of how to handle public content.

    Our conclusion is that currently proposed technical measures will not be able to completely stop the illegitimate distribution of pirated content. We believe that content producers must take steps to compete with the piracy as an alternative."

    • Yeah, it's long been known as the BORE problem: Break Once, Run Everywhere. It's as old as copy-protection itself.

      DRM in any form drives a certain percentage of consumers away from the product. Assuming demand is a constant, the more onerous the burden the fewer legitimate customers will put up with the restrictions, driving otherwise legitimate consumers to piracy just to obtain ease-of-use. It's common sense, and has been known since the Apple ][ days.

      Cryptography ultimately cannot help the DRM ma

  • by CyricZ ( 887944 ) on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @03:15PM (#14093149)
    SONY should develop Penis Rights Management (PRM) systems for male geeks. Applying such a system to one's cock would prevent unauthorized use. Of course, since it is designed by SONY it will most likely work in the complete opposite way: women will be enticed to play with a cock using such technology! All of the geeks and nerds out there who can't get any pussy would benefit from such a device. They might even get laid!

  • by Anti-Trend ( 857000 ) on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @03:16PM (#14093161) Homepage Journal
    I still maintain that the best way to defeat Sony's DRM is by simply not buying their music. All the fuss and legal backlash is nothing if we are two-faced in our dealings with them, and indeed all big industry. If we're chiding them on the one side for their vicious tactics and financially supporting them on the other, they hear the message loud and clear: we're pushovers. I think that's the answer they were prodding for when they first decided to include XCP on their CDs in the first place.
    • by uqbar ( 102695 )
      Every time you skip on buying a CD because of DRM, write a letter to the artist explaining why. Yes this is work, and in some cases these letters go nowhere (or are just read by label staff). But many groups have their own people reading their fanmail, and in some cases the trend will be noticed by the bands. They will not be happy, and they can add pressure from other angles.
  • ...by getting your CD stuck in the player. Since it doesn't spin, the DRM software is vanquished.

    Q: What do you call a CD with sticky tape on it?
    Is it...
    1) a tape drive
    2) a genius workaround
    3) an absolutely horrid waste of time
  • by griffjon ( 14945 ) <GriffJon&gmail,com> on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @03:18PM (#14093174) Homepage Journal
    Gartner 2001: (18 July 2001 'Research Management Update: Content Management - Timetable for Digital Rights Management' IGG-07182001-02 written by Michael Calvert; Analytical source: A. Weintraub, from http://www.dcita.gov.au/drm/1981.html [dcita.gov.au]:

    Gartner predicts that 2003 will be a critical year for DRM when mainstream content providers begin to understand and identify the value propositions DRM systems can provide. Around this time full production systems will be launched and there will be some settling in technology and standards. This will take some of the 'chaos' and risk out of choosing a particular technology for each functionality area. More importantly, there is likely to be a higher availability of well-integrated and flexible systems from outsourcing services or Application Service Providers (ASP). This could dramatically lower the capital and technical investment required from content owners to implement and utilise a range of DRM, ecommerce, marketing and content techniques. In Gartner's view, it won't be until 2004, or more likely 2005, that revenue models start to mature and mainstream adoption of DRM becomes commonplace.

    By 2006, Gartner sees the DRM market consolidating and a standard rights description language emerging. They identify the factors that will affect the success of the market as:

            * the acceptance by consumers of the regulation of e-content
            * the capability of the industry to establish a 'standard rights' language
            * the cost balance between developing a secure DRM solution and the potential revenue to be gained from DRM secured e-content management


    Not to mention September 2005 (http://www.gartner.com/DisplayDocument?ref=g_sear ch&id=485976 [gartner.com]):
    "Organizations increasingly need to create, store, retrieve and manage rich media files. Those that successfully cultivate a digital asset management environment can cut their associated operational costs in half."

  • by courtarro ( 786894 ) on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @03:18PM (#14093185) Homepage
    Since it seems the "shift" key trick is in the news again, I'd like to point out the permanent "shift key" that already works on the computers of countless geeks. :

    1. Download TweakUI for XP [microsoft.com] (or the older version [microsoft.com])
    2. Run TweakUI
    3. In the XP version*, look through the tree list on the left and go to My Computer, AutoPlay, Types.
    4. On the right, uncheck "Enable Autoplay for CD and DVD drives"
    5. Click OK and reboot (just for kicks)

    Sure, it's karma whoring, but I get tired of the "shift key" advice when so many of us have moved on. Never worry about evil code on a CD again! If you're particularly paranoid, feel free to deselect the other checkbox as well.

    * if you're using the older version, you'll have to do some searching. I have no reference for it.

  • by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @03:27PM (#14093274)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion
  • HISTORY REPEATED!!! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by SmurfButcher Bob ( 313810 ) on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @03:27PM (#14093282) Journal
    Oh, this is too funny.

    Many years ago in the Apple ][ era... Lotus 1-2-3 was a great spreadsheet. They invested a huge pile of money to make certain that you could not run their program without possessing the original disk. And try as we may, we couldn't figure out how they did it... there was one sector that was funky, but it didn't make any sense.

    Then, by chance, my neighbor had a nice RANA drive - and it had a 'write protect' button on the face, that you could manually toggle. We stuck a (non-working) copy into the drive to begin the arduous task of single-stepping through the code, and accidentally hit that button while doing so. The result?

    Lotus fired right up!

    They spent way too much money using a laser to create a specific media defect in a specific place; upon startup, the program would attempt to write to that location. If it failed, it knew it was the original. If it succeeded... then there was no defect there, and it was a copy.

    All that time and god-knows-how-much-money they invested in this scheme... only to be defeated by a .01 cent piece of 'write-protect' tape. And now, Sony repeats it with the same level of hubris... that's too funny.
  • FRAUD !!! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Nom du Keyboard ( 633989 ) on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @03:40PM (#14093406)
    In addition to everything else Sony is being sued over I wish they'd add Fraud to the list.

    People buy CDs to get the best 44.1Kbs uncompressed audio usually available for purchase. Yet the DRM'd versions are highly compressed audio files (hence things like the illegally included LAME decoder in the XCP package) where true quality is sacraficed in order to achieve compression levels allowing it to be sandwiched onto a standard CD.

    Some very fine audio chips and speakers are available for computers these days, and certainly some people use their computers as their primary audio system. Yet were on the packaging, or EULA (an astonishing concept for a music CD in and of itself), does it tell you that you'll receive inferior quality playback when played on your computer. How many people believe that the DRM'd discs are actually playing back the .WAV files, instead of WMA or other crap files? It's fraud to not inform consumers that even after they agree to the DRM that they'll receive degraded audio as a result -- and Sony should have to pay for that as well!

  • DRM will NEVER work. (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Pedrito ( 94783 ) on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @03:42PM (#14093422)
    Gartner believes that it will never achieve this goal as long as CDs must be playable by stand-alone CD players.

    As long as it must be playable in a standalone CD Player? As long as media must be visible or audible, DRM will never work. It might for a while, but people are always going to figure a way around it. I've argued this over and over. The software industry which, let's face it, has been at this copy protection thing a lot longer than the music industry and has quite a bit more specialization in it, still hasn't come up with a solution that works for software. What makes the music industry think it will succeed where this industry has repeatedly failed?

    The software industry has managed to survive, despite rampant piracy. M$ has become enormous, despite the rampant piracy of Windows and every app they produce. The music industry just has to bite the bullet, accept that piracy is going to happen, but for God's sake, stop treating all your customers like criminals. All that will achieve is alienation and it will eventually lead to their demise when someone comes along and offers a competing product without treating the customers like criminals.
  • by RingDev ( 879105 ) on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @03:45PM (#14093471) Homepage Journal
    for DRMs. The big issue is that the DRM must be transparent enough to not effect the consumers, but strong enough that it discourages (not prevents) infringement. The best possible solution is at the hardware level. But at this point, with millions of CDs in circulation, you can't alter the hardware and break compatibility with existing disks. The key for the DRM industry is the next medium. CD will always be a weekness though. A high quality unsecured media. In order for DRMs to succed the RIAA/MPAA needs 3 things. A universal secure hardware based DRM (that in itself is a pipe dream), a new medium that offers something better then the current options (ie: Digital downloads and HD/Blue DVDs), and a marketing department that can convince main stream America to move up to the latest greatest.

    The universal hardware DRM is a key. Because if a person doesn't HAVE to break your DRM to move their music from the PC to iPod to home sterio to car sterio to work, they wont. But you need a system that can be run in all of those places, and you need it to be cheap.

    -Rick
  • by Futurepower(R) ( 558542 ) on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @04:06PM (#14093777) Homepage
    Ed Foster provides more information that allows us to make a "behavioral profile of Sony" [gripe2ed.com]:

    Sony has other DRM software. Here are quotes:

    MediaMax also "phones home" every time you play a protected CD with a code identifying what music you're listening to.

    ... before users can even say yes or no to accepting the Sony EULA, MediaMax has already installed a dozen files on their hard drive and started running the copy protection code. The files remain even if the user rejects the EULA, and the Sony CDs provide no option for uninstalling the files at a later date.

    ... an e-commerce revenue generation "feature of dynamic on-line and off-line banner ads. Generate revenue or added value through the placement of 3rd party dynamic, interactive ads that can be changed at any time by the content owner."

    Ed Foster says Sony management has a "scum" profile. Quote: OK, so let's see what we've got here. A company that seems bent on sneaking files onto unsuspecting users' computers, pretending they've gotten permission to do so from a vaguely-worded EULA, transmitting a constant stream of usage information back to their servers, and using that information for who-knows-what revenue generating opportunities. Does this sound like a familiar profile to you? Of course, it's the profile of all the spyware/adware scum that have come very close to destroying the Internet just to make a few bucks peddling their trash.

    Issues that remain concerning Sony's rootkit software and other DRM software:

    As is shown by Ed Foster's analysis linked above, attacking customer computers seems to be the kind of thing that is part of the Sony corporate culture. There has been no apology [userfriendly.org], and Sony management makes statements giving the impression they intend to continue infecting customer computers.

    A music retail store spokesman said that Sony's rootkit attack has become public just before Christmas. Customers can easily choose some other gift now that they are scared about computer attacks. Sony's attack has hurt the entire music industry, not just Sony. Also, the damage will continue after Christmas.

    Few people are technically knowledgeable. The Sony rootkit CDs will be causing problems for many, many years, as they are traded or borrowed or sold to thrift stores.

    The number of computers already corrupted by the Sony rootkit is probably far larger than the 500,000 quoted in articles about the Sony attack. That number is just the number of Domain Name Servers that show evidence that a computer has tried to contact the Sony phone home address. The average server would almost certainly service more than one corrupted computer.

    Following Microsoft's lead years ago, some businesses treat all their customers as crooks so that they can stop a few.
  • by Dachannien ( 617929 ) on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @04:11PM (#14093843)
    DRM schemes such as XCP aren't about preventing piracy anyway, which is why it's okay that it's so easily defeated. Instead, today's DRM schemes are about indoctrinating the public, getting them so used to putting up with DRM that we won't complain loudly enough when the ultimate home invasion occurs - that is, when we all switch to digital TV, and their DRM finally puts a nail in the coffin of VCRs, DVRs, and that pesky Betamax decision.

  • by BYTEBuG ( 630830 ) on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @04:15PM (#14093895)
    Heck, I've been using a green marker around the edge of my CDs since the '80s. Softens those strident "1" bits (makes 'em less assertive) and rounds out the "0" bits (so they're rounder, like "o"). Sounds better, and no DRM either!
  • by glarbex ( 933185 ) on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @04:16PM (#14093917) Homepage
    I really fail to understand what anyone hopes to achieve by any form of copy protection...

    As far as I can tell, the only form of copy protection that can hope to work against any low-level data extraction tool is one that involves partially invalid data or unreadable regions. And even then, you can do a straight 1:1 copy, and whenever it starts having read errors, put a 0 or something in those bytes and skip them. That is easily achieved using a utility like dd. In many cases, you can also read the disc in a virtual PC (e.g. VMware), and save the audio output to a disk file - and then delete the virtual PC in case of malware installed by the CD.

    Unless the disc is in a proprietary format which can only be read by a specific player, which has no standard output connections, you can copy anything that you can play, simply by plugging the output of whatever you use to play it into the line-in on your PC. If they somehow prevent that, you can still record anything using a microphone, as long as you can somehow get sound waves out of it.

    Also, is it really right to try and stop all copying? I absolutely cannot stand any kind of data being held within a single physical object, especially such a fragile one as a CD. I keep most of my CDs backed up onto two locations, but I steadfastly refuse to play the music on more than one location at a time, or share it with a friend. There can't be very many people in the world who would want to rip the musicians off, and not posess the necessary technical skills to bypass copy protection. The slightest hint of copy protection on a CD in my posession prompts me to try and create a "pure" copy, just because I can't stand my data being defiled by such things.

    Certainly, it is stupid to incorporate Windows trojans into the CDs. People trust the music companies; at least, they did. Things like this must really lower people's trust - especially since they try to disuade people from piracy by saying that pirate copies may contain trojans. I will certainly be very reluctant to insert a CD into a Windows computer without the shift key held down in the future.
  • Even better method (Score:3, Informative)

    by dtfinch ( 661405 ) * on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @04:29PM (#14094115) Journal
    Try a Sharpie [slashdot.org]!
  • by bhmit1 ( 2270 ) on Tuesday November 22, 2005 @06:51PM (#14095796) Homepage
    'After more than five years of trying, the recording industry has not yet demonstrated a workable DRM scheme for music CDs. Gartner believes that it will never achieve this goal as long as CDs must be playable by stand-alone CD players.'

    Damn, you weren't supposed to tell them that. This was just starting to get funny.

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