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SCO v. Novell Goes to Trial Today In Utah
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timothy
on Tue Apr 29, 2008 08:41 AM
from the smell-of-napalm-in-the-morning dept.
from the smell-of-napalm-in-the-morning dept.
I Don't Believe in Imaginary Property writes "The day many have been waiting for has finally arrived, the day SCO gets torn apart in court by Novell. Each side gets 10 hours, and Novell managed to get them to agree to a stipulation (PDF) that should make things go a lot faster. With any luck, we will soon have an official ruling that SCO does not own much of anything and then we just have to wait for SCO to exhaust its appeals. This would've been over a long time ago, but SCO filed for bankruptcy on the eve of trial, stopping the clock. One can only wonder what trick they will try to pull this time."
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eldavojohn writes "Here's a short update on the Novell Vs. SCO case we've been following. Our good friend Darl McBride made some interesting comments in court yesterday. He stated (under oath): 'Many Linux contributors were originally UNIX developers... We have evidence System V is in Linux... When you go to the bookstore and look in the UNIX section, there's books on "How to Program UNIX" but when you go to the Linux section and look for "How to Program Linux" you're not gonna find it, because it doesn't exist. Linux is a copy of UNIX, there is no difference [between them]." This flies directly in the face of what SCO found in extensive investigations in 2002 and contradicts what SCO Senior Vice President Chris Sontag had just finished testifying earlier that day (testimony that McBride did not hear)."
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Well, to be fair, we are talking about Utah here...
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Why do people continue to give them money? (Score:2)
Sorry. (Score:2)
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Re:Why do people continue to give them money? (Score:5, Insightful)
Assuming that those investors are not total nitwits, we must therefore look for another premise. I propose this one: "people pour money into SCO with the expectation of profit through delay of Linux take up". You see, that makes sense: SCO casts a shadow of Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt over all things Linux (and by extension, over all things Open Source). That shadow is highly beneficial to some parties, since Linux represents a serious threat to their business model.
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No One Is Giving Them Money (Score:3, Insightful)
Spectacular error (Score:5, Funny)
I doubt I have ever seen the random /. quote ever be more appropriate:
"If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error."
Yeah, that about sums it up.
McBride and Yarro to do the perp walk? (Score:4, Interesting)
They called me a criminal for using Linux.
I'm calling them criminals for running an extortion/stock pump and dump/fraud scheme.
They were wrong. I'm not. When will the SEC finally put these all hat, no cattle rustlers behind bars?
Oh, and by the way, if you had the UNIX copyrights, why did you insist on asking Novell for them - repeatedly?
Bunch of lying scumbag bastard pricks - every single supporter of this fiaSCO. (Yes, that includes you, too, Rudy de Haas. Fucking asshat.)
What trick they will pull this time... (Score:4, Funny)
SCO is the Defendent? (Score:3, Informative)
It looks like via the stipulation and the way the trial is organized that SCO expects to lose. It appears that Novell simply wants to assert its claim to UnixWare and SCO is ready to close up shop. That's why the stipulation and the short trial and the fact that SCO isn't going to call up witnesses.
The Judge already ruled (Score:5, Informative)
The biggest issue remaining to be resolved by this trial is how much of the "license" monies given to SCO Group by Microsoft and SUN were for that which SCO Group had no right to license (SYSV), and how much was for SCO Group's product. Given the non-dizzying speed at which SCO's products have been improved and maintained, Novell argues that the vast majority of those millions was due to Novell.
In the mean time it has been entertaining to read the SCO Group's arguments for why they should keep the money to which they have no right, or at least how they should not be required to turn the swag over to Novell. As if our opinion of them could have previously been lower.
Kimball Already Ruled That SCO Doesn't Own SysV (Score:3, Informative)
> anything...
Kimball ruled that SCO does not own the SysV copyrights last year. This trial is about how much of Novell's money SCO pocketed when they sold SysV licenses to Sun and Microsoft without Novell's permission. The case will then go back to the bankruptcy court where Judge Gross will decide what to do about it. Note that this trial is about how much of Novell's money SCO took, not whether or not they did so. The latter has already been decided.
If Kimball awards more than a small fraction of the $37M maximum (likely) it is hard to see how SCO can avoid Ch. 7 liquidation.
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I would say no, there's no corresponding UNIX 03 certification for 10.5 on PPC.