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Cell Phone Encryption Exploit Demonstrated
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Soulskill
on Fri Feb 22, 2008 03:09 AM
from the wiretapping-on-the-cheap dept.
from the wiretapping-on-the-cheap dept.
Saxophonist brings us a story from Forbes about security researchers who demonstrated a new method for breaking the encryption on GSM cellular signals. The presentation was made at the recent Black Hat conference, and it's notable for the fact that the technique only requires "about half an hour with just $1,000 in computer storage and processing equipment." The researchers also claim to have found a faster method, which they intend to market for $200,000 - $500,000. Quoting:
"Undetectable, 'passive' systems like the one that Muller and Hulton have created aren't new either, though previous technologies required about a million dollars worth of hardware and used a "brute force" tactic that tried 33 million times as many passwords to decrypt a cell signal. All of that means, Hulton and Muller argue, that their cheaper technique is simply drawing needed attention to a problem that mobile carriers have long ignored--one that well-financed eavesdroppers may have been exploiting for years. 'If governments or other people with millions of dollars can listen to your conversations right now, why shouldn't your next-door neighbor?' Muller says."
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Not too afraid (Score:4, Insightful)
While this is an extremely powerful re-discovery, I'm not that afraid of average Joe attempting to listen to my conversations, which are boring if anything most of the time. It would still probably take a reasonably quick computer and technical know-how to implement this kind of scheme on a usable scale. Plus, if the FBI and CIA already have the privilege to tap into my conversations, then the fear of security loss is already somewhat of a non-unique one.
Re:Not too afraid (Score:4, Informative)
Yes often, even when at work. Its also no secret that I hate my top boss.
Lying on taxes is pretty much a national trait around here (Denmark), so again yes - some of us have no worries.
But I do despise the fact that someone can listen in on stuff, even though most of what we do is no secret, its still something that annoys me.
Overkill for neighbours (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Overkill for neighbours (Score:4, Funny)
They're also saying "ghob" out loud... also I think my other neighbors are raptors...
Re:Overkill for neighbours (Score:4, Funny)
2. Open subspace diplomatic channel to the Romulans [wikipedia.org].
3. Sell the conversations as intelligence data.
4. Profit!
There never was end-to-end encryption... (Score:5, Insightful)
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Electronics kits for the digital generation. [nerdkits.com]
Re:There never was end-to-end encryption... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:There never was end-to-end encryption... (Score:5, Interesting)
That's a very good question.
One idea I've heard is that when SSL was first developed, the web was in its infancy and nobody really felt happy about the idea of sending their credit card details over it. The fact that it was relatively easy to eavesdrop on a computer network was fairly well known. This was no good to anyone who wanted to do business (OK, porn sites) over the web, and so SSL solved that problem by providing reassurance that nobody was eavesdropping.
The telephone system, on the other hand - that's been around so long that it's familiar technology and relatively few people are aware of how insecure it is. If you think GSM is bad (it's actually not that poor, and 3G introduces AES encryption), consider your land line. No encryption whatsoever and an analogue signal (so no computer equipment or specialised unusual codecs required to tap) between you and the telephone exchange.
Re:There never was end-to-end encryption... (Score:5, Insightful)
the browsers come pre-equiped and will use it when ever a url starts with https rather then http.
also, the encryption isnt used to verify that whoever is sitting in front of the computer is who he or she claims to be, for that you have third party stuff like pads of one time codes, code generators and similar.
for im and mail on the other hand one have the, in the eyes of the non-techie user, laborious process of generating and exchanging keys, and making sure that the keys belong to the person one wants to communicate with.
only way i see this change is if we could turn the mobile phone into a digital key carrier. meet someone, exchange keys pr phone just as one would exchange phone numbers, im/mail address and similar, and so on.
or maybe the social network sites should allow one to upload ones public key just as on enter above numbers and addresses?
basically one have to find a way to bring the exchange of public keys into the fabric of ones social interaction. sadly i dont think that will happen any time soon...
Obligatory (Score:4, Funny)
Because the Government hates the competition?
GNUradio is also up to GSM cracking (Score:5, Informative)
check out some movie about the GSM state of security [1] and mod me informative.
[1] http://chaosradio.ccc.de/camp2007_m4v_2015.html [chaosradio.ccc.de]
Coming soon, try it yourself... (Score:4, Interesting)
I'm wondering how you ever could tune in to the correct conversation, with thousands of mobile phones transmitting at the same time.
Bert
Re:Coming soon, try it yourself... (Score:4, Informative)
This number is usually printed on the phone somewhere under the battery cover & is retrievable from the phone's software.
Here's your answer. (Score:5, Insightful)
Privacy the least of our concerns (Score:5, Insightful)
From my understanding though, this encryption is certainly not applied over the whole transmission, meaning endpoint to endpoint. Just the handset to the tower.
The government does not actually need to crack this encryption, or even intercept transmission between handsets and towers. They can just order digital wiretaps, which cannot be detected. Speaking of which, I have always been amused when people state they you can just buy hardware to detect that too. The location of the handset is easily determined, and in most cases the identity of the user. The government already has the ability to access all of this information with the cooperation of the telecommunications companies anyways. With Telco Immunity being pushed, there won't even be room to dispute it anymore.
So not trivializing the serious issues with our privacy and the government, they are still the least of our concern here.
What strikes me as very problematic is that this opens up a whole new "market" for identity theft, banking fraud, etc. I do quite a lot of business over the phone, and just about every single company uses the touch tones to gather data. Capturing the the numbers by listening to the tones is trivial. This can be done quite easily by software and hardware.
So if all the popular company phone numbers are known, and all the data being sent to it by customers can be recorded, this presents quite a security problem. With the right amount of equipment you can start capturing all sorts of data being sent over the phone. It will only be a matter of time before you gain enough information to compromise someones identity.
I am not worried about my neighbors, not worried about my government, but I am very worried about the stranger interested in the fact I called Washington Mutual.
Re:Privacy the least of our concerns (Score:4, Insightful)
Lets look at some facts.... (Score:5, Informative)
New GSM equipment already supports A5/3 [gsmworld.com] which is still secure. I think the main impact of this hack is going to be some sensational headlines and a big push to make A5/3 universally available.
not stupid after all (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:because (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:because (Score:4, Informative)
So GSM crypto even if it was uncrackable is not very helpful if you're really trying to hide your comms.
Someone I knew once claimed to have extra crypto on his GSM phone so that he could talk "securely" to other people similarly equipped.
Let him be... (Score:4, Insightful)
What a stupid comment. In other words, if some people are going to break the law, let's make sure everyone can. Good idea.
Re:For those three people ... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:For those three people ... (Score:4, Informative)
Re:That would be awesome (Score:5, Funny)
Re:That would be awesome (Score:5, Insightful)