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Internet Group Declares War on Scientology

Posted by Zonk on Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:03 AM
from the so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-fish dept.
Darkman, Walkin Dude writes "An internet group calling itself Anonymous has declared war on the Church of Scientology, in the form of an ominous posting to the YouTube site. 'In the statement, the group explained their goal as safeguarding the right to freedom of speech. "A spokesperson said that the group's goals include bringing an end to the financial exploitation of Church members and protecting the right to free speech, a right which they claim was consistently violated by the Church of Scientology in pursuit of its opponents." The press release also claimed that the Church of Scientology misused copyright and trademark law in order to remove criticism from websites including Digg and YouTube. The statement goes on to assert that the attacks from the group "will continue until the Church of Scientology reacts, at which point they will change strategy".' It should be noted that Slashdot users have had interactions with Scientology in the past as well."

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  • RIAA (Score:5, Funny)

    by paganizer (566360) <thegrove1.hotmail@com> on Thursday January 24, @11:05AM (#22167004) Homepage Journal
    Hopefully the RIAA will be next. Sure they seem to be shooting themselves in the foot a lot lately, but they still need to be wiped out.
    • Re:RIAA (Score:5, Funny)

      by MrNemesis (587188) on Thursday January 24, @11:11AM (#22167124) Homepage
      Even better; tell the RIAA that the Church of Scientology is a massive front for copying CD's. Simultaneously, tell the scientologists that the RIAA are planning to clone Xenu from some evil thetans that were surgically extracted from Britney.

      Unstoppable force, meet immovable object. Space DC-10's dropping atom bombs on volcanoes will be nothing compared to those fireworks :)
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      • Re:RIAA (Score:5, Funny)

        by cashman73 (855518) on Thursday January 24, @11:18AM (#22167286) Journal
        Even better; tell the RIAA that the Church of Scientology is a massive front for copying CD's. Simultaneously, tell the scientologists that the RIAA are planning to clone Xenu from some evil thetans that were surgically extracted from Britney.

        Where can I buy tickets to that event? I want front row seats!

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        • Re:RIAA (Score:5, Funny)

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 24, @11:39AM (#22167660)
          Ticketmaster. Unfortunately, there's a $1000 service fee per ticket.
          [ Parent ]
    • Re:RIAA (Score:5, Funny)

      by Dr. Cody (554864) on Thursday January 24, @11:16AM (#22167228)
      Maybe not wiped out, but their pool might get closed.
      [ Parent ]
  • Anonymous? (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 24, @11:05AM (#22167010)
    Cowards.
  • It's not a church (Score:5, Insightful)

    by andyh3930 (605873) * on Thursday January 24, @11:06AM (#22167030)
    Any "Church" that charges for its teachings and also has them copyrighted to prevent free distribution is not a church it's a scam at best and a dangerous cult at worst.

    I had dealings with them about 10 years ago. I ended up paying GBP30 for a course just to get out of the hard sell and even though I never did the course the often phoned and wrote letters of about 5 years after.

    See the Operation Clambake pages for more details to their activities. http://www.xenu.net/ [xenu.net]

    • It's a money machine (Score:5, Insightful)

      by JCSoRocks (1142053) on Thursday January 24, @11:36AM (#22167620)
      Ron Hubbard - the founder of Scientology - has been quoted as saying that if you want to get rich, you start a religion. ( http://www.faqs.org/faqs/scientology/skeptic/start-a-religion-faq/ [faqs.org] ) Well, that's what he did. You have to pay just to learn about it and the deeper you go, the more you spend. It's designed to dupe people into giving the Church of Scientology gobs of money. I truly feel sorry for anyone that's been sucked in by it. It's like believing that Star Wars is real (the movie, not the missile defense system...).
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      • Re:It's not a church (Score:5, Interesting)

        by Catbeller (118204) on Thursday January 24, @11:25AM (#22167410) Homepage
        Cult: organization pretending to be a religion. Keeps true beliefs secret from recruits, one would think because they would have no recruits if beliefs were known. Viciously attacks any and all who expose secret beliefs. Has tendency to lock people up, either through social pressure or actual locked doors. Uses any means possible to intimidate press, infiltrate government, and co-opt police forces. See: Moonies, Scientology, any number of local Jesus franchises in USA, and yes, even the Mormons, tho they succeeded in all points listed above so long ago that no one remembers they are a cult. Hell. the Salvation Army is a cult, but people rarely look at its belief system. A uniformed army, eh? But I digress.
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        • Re:It's not a church (Score:5, Interesting)

          by value_added (719364) on Thursday January 24, @11:46AM (#22167772)
          See: Moonies, Scientology, any number of local Jesus franchises in USA, and yes, even the Mormons, tho they succeeded in all points listed above so long ago that no one remembers they are a cult.

          Agreed, but have you have noticed that Mormons tend to be really nice people? I'm serious. It's like Romney -- no one can really find fault with him except to say his hair is too perfect, that he's just a successful businessman, or that he's Mormon.

          I have zero patience for the Protestant evangelical crowd and less for members of any cult, but Mormons, at least in my experience, tend to be shiny happy people that don't really bother anyone. Even the ex-Mormons I've met seem to have few bad things to say and if they do, you can't help but notice there's a certain lingering nostalgia in their eyes. That's not to say their beliefs aren't loony, but if members of cults were as benign as the typical Mormon, I wonder if anyone would notice, or care.

          But I digress.

          Back at you.
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  • Followed by (Score:5, Funny)

    by Bobfrankly1 (1043848) on Thursday January 24, @11:11AM (#22167122)
    Tom Cruise declares war on the internet.
    -
    He's gotta do something until the mothership arrives...
  • Michigan Daily quote (Score:5, Funny)

    by gardyloo (512791) on Thursday January 24, @11:12AM (#22167138)
    From Wikinews: The "Message to Scientology" video was highlighted as the "YouTube Video of the Week" by The Michigan Daily. Commenting on the video, the piece states "if this video is any indication, it seems like the assailants mean business". Hehe. If that were a credible metric of "business", we'd have an emo President by now.
  • Easy to start new religions? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by JulianConrad (1223926) on Thursday January 24, @11:15AM (#22167206)
    LRH's scam shows how easy it is to start a new religion that survives and gains passionate adherents after the death of its founders. Most people couldn't do it, but a few individuals have the kind of personality that can pull it off in the right social environment. In fact, we have enough recent historical data on cults that turn into competitive new religions (for example Mormonism and Baha'i, both founded in the 19th Century) that I don't think it's even all that mysterious how older religions like Christianity & Islam could have originated through normal social processes. (We don't have to postulate "supernatural" causes to explain their existence, in other words.)
  • Trolls (Score:5, Funny)

    by TI-8477 (1105165) on Thursday January 24, @11:17AM (#22167248)
    You do realize that the people who are leading this war are the same people who consider trolling Slashdot a professional sport?
  • by mgkimsal2 (200677) on Thursday January 24, @11:19AM (#22167294) Homepage
    Why single out one specific 'religion'? I saw the Tom Cruise interview video last week - it really didn't seem all that fundamentally different from listening to an evangelical Christian. Different terms were used, but the mindset was mostly the same. Watch Jesus Camp if you haven't already. Not much difference between the main camp director's mindset and Tom Cruise's.
  • Scientology is pervasive (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Phoenix666 (184391) on Thursday January 24, @11:23AM (#22167376)
    Especially when you consider its offshoot, the Landmark Forum (formerly "EST"). They are scary, for-profit cults that employ techniques like fatigue, hunger, group compulsion, and newspeak. You would be surprised how many people from all walks of life have gotten pulled into them.

    I wish Anonymous well, but Scientologists and their cousins in the Landmark Forum are beyond reason. And fighting cults rarely works unless they're small and focused around a single charismatic leader. Both Scientology and Landmark are too big and widespread for that, and fighting them will probably only make them stronger.
  • Effectual? Irrelevant. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by CheeseburgerBrown (553703) on Thursday January 24, @11:50AM (#22167832) Homepage Journal
    Granted, this e-hissy from Anonymous is unlikely to take down the cult or even deal it serious damage, but it does serve to highlight how the traditional big media outlets have been legally hogtied.

    Our usual media sources can't report on allegations of abuse because they've been very effectively muzzled by CSI hyper-litigation. They try to keep this fact close to the vest, but Anonymous' efforts are making it plain for all to see. This is a valuable service.

    Also, any organization that exploits copyright law in order to silence critics should get a kick in the shins, even if that's all it amounts to. It's still a potent message: "We don't condone gag orders, and we'll fight back however we can, even if it is a David versus Goliath situation."

    Glib as it may sound, raising awareness is key here. And an end unto itself.

    Yours,
    Cheeseburger Brown
    Suppressive and Proud

    • Re:The war (Score:5, Insightful)

      by DurendalMac (736637) on Thursday January 24, @11:08AM (#22167078)
      Precisely. This "war" will amount to very little. The CoS is loaded with the cash of the gullible and foolish. Anonymous also fails to realize that most people don't give a crap about stuff on the internet outside of email and maybe some major news sites. It'll be amusing to watch, though.
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            • Re:The war (Score:5, Insightful)

              by JesseMcDonald (536341) on Thursday January 24, @11:28AM (#22167472) Homepage Journal

              There are loons in any campaign, but Ron Paul had a special knack for getting them to come out of the woodwork, ...

              Which is to be expected. Anyone who actually supports individual freedom is sure to be popular among the unpopular and oppressed minority groups; they have the most interest at stake in protecting basic rights like free speech. Those who only hold and/or express popular opinions don't require such protection.

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    • Re:Why bother? (Score:5, Informative)

      by Bazer (760541) on Thursday January 24, @11:30AM (#22167520)
      If you'd click the second link in the summary you'd see how Slashdot "gave in".

      The story posted after the comment was removed had a full disclosure, included the text of that comment and had _lots_ of anti-Scientology links, including Operation Clambake [xenu.net]. That was the best Slashdot could do, considering the threat of legal action.
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