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Proposal for UK Prisoners to be Given RFID Implants
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on Sun Jan 13, 2008 09:03 AM
from the resistance-is-futile dept.
from the resistance-is-futile dept.
Raisey-raison writes "There is a proposal in the UK to implant "machine-readable" microchips under the skin of thousands of offenders in an effort to free up more space in British jails. The article states that uses are being considered both for home detention, as a means to enforce punishment, as well as for sex offenders after their release. Many view this as a slippery slope leading to much wider use; starting as a purely voluntary act and gradually becoming more compulsory, it would endanger human rights and privacy. There are also health questions involved, given that long-term studies have linked similar implants to cancer in lab mice and rats. Ironically, the same technology has been proposed for medical purposes as well. In the USA, some state agencies have already made decisions about this issue.
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Its just criminals (Score:5, Insightful)
Tomorrow children. In a generation or 2, everyone will have them.
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Or they could stop throwing people in jail for victimless crimes, such as drug offenses... for which 16% of prisoners are there for.
http://www.justice.gov.uk/docs/population-in-custody-0407.pdf [justice.gov.uk]
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Look at some actual research [bbc.co.uk]. Ecstasy is less dangerous than tobacco or alcohol.
I want to be able to buy ecstasy legally. I don't mind if it's taxed (charge £10 for four tablets, give
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Ads for drugs, legal drugs (Score:3, Insightful)
Dude, that already occurs. Did you go to any kind of club recently?
Fully legalizing drugs would at least regulate advertisment and control quality.
Depends on the drug in question. In some countries, there are plans to legalize ownership and growing o
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Tell me: if I hold an apple in the air and let it go, will it fall to the ground, or hang in mid ai
Gradual Acceptance could happen (Score:3, Insightful)
Depends on the particular subject. In this case, it's somewhat clear to me that gradual acceptance might occur, and that we should thus not accept it.
First, we tag criminals, maybe even only those who accept it. After a few years, there are some success
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Or maybe the earth will explode. I'm planning on being alive tomorrow anyway.
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Maybe it's just me... (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Maybe it's just me... (Score:5, Funny)
Then only outlaws will wear tinfoil hats.
Re:Maybe it's just me... (Score:5, Insightful)
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I just hope it's optional.
Prisoners should be given the option to say either, "Implant the chip under my skin", or "Shove it up your arse."
Hmm... (Score:3, Interesting)
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They won't force th
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Re:Hmm... (Score:4, Interesting)
I think the last time anyone tried this in Western Europe was when the Nazis tattooed numbers on the hands of Jews.
the Christians will freakout (Score:2)
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all state's property can be tagged (Score:2, Interesting)
This is /. - how long before chip mods? (Score:5, Interesting)
If your ID chip accesses your credit line - how long before Warren Buffett/Bill Gates' ID becomes the hot new fake ID?
It is well known that all manufacturing processes produce a some number of defective products. How do we deal with those?
RFID can be zapped with a static charge - anybody for Van DeGraff generators?
Retasking, rewriting, forged, hacked and destroyed RFID is all that this policy will lead to. AND,
Re:This is /. - how long before chip mods? (Score:4, Interesting)
Forgery is possible but it's non-trivial, particularly as the chips shouldn't offer any way to reprogram the UUIDs that they broadcast. You'd need a pirate RFID manufacturing plant: possible but costly. Destroying the chips is a more likely attack, but these things will be so common in the future that it will be extremely hard to go anywhere without picking a few up by accident, so you'll soon be back on the system if you do that (albeit as an anonymous person until you do something else to identify yourself, such as using a credit card).
Re:This is /. - how long before chip mods? (Score:4, Insightful)
The market for pirated DVDs couldn't exist without the blanks. Perhaps a third or so are created in factories in China - but the rest are purchased from the usual sources and diverted to illicit copying. What's to keep chip manufacturers from supplying the black market?
Want to consider what would happen if the chips were really tightly controlled? There would be a market for chips forcibly extracted from the original "owner."
At root, it is a stupid idea - but my pets have them. Now, if the animal control folks would just buy the scanner we lobbied for (and, budgeted two years ago) so that a lost/runaway could be returned....
In short, the barriers to adopting this policy are formidable and the end result is far from certain.
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Make a RFID Chip "broadcaster/jammer" (Score:2)
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FWIW directional antennas (dish, yagi) could direct
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You'd then emulate the cloud. Pretty simple.
Location of the implants (Score:2)
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Well, the frontal sinus would make an ideal location for them... Well within the ability of modern endoscopic techniques; no visiable lump as with subcutaneous i
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Welcome to the exciting world of "sarcasm". The GP did express his disdain for superstitious BS such
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Everyone knows that refers to Bill Gates [egomania.nu]. The mark on the right hand is Carpal Tunnel Syndrome and the mark on the forehead came from pounding it on the keyboard.
Makes perfect sense to me! (Score:4, Insightful)
After all, it's not like RFID chips could be swapped, erased, removed and as we all know, relying on technology to enforce behavior has never failed. That's why DRM is so popular and electronic passports are completely unhackable, and even if they were hackable, it's not like people get used to the new systems and forget to do the most basic of checks.
Also, the social repercussions for putting these in inmates raises no problems, all you need to do is look at the great success the US has had with the sex offender registry in rehabilitating people.
I can't find a single reason not to do this. Go Britain!
WHAT THE FUCK!?!?!? It took me a whole 2 seconds to think of all of these, how has this idea made it this far?
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The purpose of the sex offender registry is not to rehabilitate. It is to notify the community to beware. So many sex offenders reoffended after being released, and so many parents said that they would have
Another reason... (Score:3, Informative)
This country has surveillance and tracking that's gone beyond anything the Nazi SS and the KGB could ever dreamed of having. So much for living in a free democracy.
Banning involuntary tagging won't work.. (Score:2, Interesting)
What is so wrong with current monitoring systems? (Score:2)
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mobile phones (Score:2)
Oh yeah, that's why cellphones were invented.
It's Called an iMplant (Score:2)
jails full? hey I've got an idea (Score:2)
Obligatory Bill Hicks quote... (Score:2, Funny)
You keep the shitty food and the shitty weather and we get the Great Barrier Reef and lobsters the size of canoes?...
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I'm Jack the Ripper! --No, I'M Jack the Ripper! We're all Jackthefuckingripper!
stop punishing, start helping them become citizens (Score:2)
Why is there such a high prison population? Are all of these people behind bars dangerous persons who would damage society if left free? I don't think so. Perhaps only a few of them are really dangerous. Most of them would probably do no further damage
look out your food and your car (Score:2)
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You seem to have reinforced my concern.
I am not part of the hive. I do not always think the current fashionable thoughts. That is good, as far as I'm concerned.
My post responded to your question, specifically, "What's the huge issue for abuse?". The huge