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Canada's New DMCA Considered Worst Copyright Law

Posted by kdawson on Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:31 AM
from the outdoing-the-southern-neighbours dept.
loconet writes "The government of Canada is preparing to attempt to bring a new DMCA-modeled copyright law in Canada in order to comply with the WIPO treaties the country signed in 1997. (These treaties were also the base of the American DMCA.) The new Canadian law will be even more restrictive in nature than the American version and worse than the last Canadian copyright proposal, the defeated Bill C-60. Among the many restrictive clauses in this new law, as Michael Geist explains, is the total abolishment of the concept of fair use: 'No parody exception. No time shifting exception. No device shifting exception. No expanded backup provision. Nothing.' Geist provides a list of 30 things that can be done to address the issues."

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  • Wait a minute... (Score:5, Funny)

    A you saying it's entirely possible that in the very near future Canadians might start envying American digital rights liberties? I think my head is going to explode...

    • Re:Wait a minute... (Score:5, Insightful)

      by FredDC (1048502) on Thursday November 29, @10:52AM (#21518673)
      Canadians probably saw the DMCA laws in the US, and thought "Pfff, we can do better than that!".

      Note to Canadians: It's NOT a good idea to try to beat the US on everything!
      [ Parent ]
      • Re:Wait a minute... (Score:5, Informative)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 29, @11:04AM (#21518835)
        This is a non-issue. The bill will never pass.

        The US complains about Canada's IP laws all the time. So every so often we introduce a new bill so we can point and say "see US, we're trying!". However the bill is purposely written to be so restrictive as to never, ever make it through 3 readings in the House of Commons. A bit wasteful, sure, but for the most part it keeps the americans off our backs.
        [ Parent ]
        • Re:Wait a minute... (Score:5, Interesting)

          by TMB (70166) on Thursday November 29, @12:52PM (#21520699)
          While I certainly hope you're correct, do you have any basis for that? If it were a majority government, I suspect it would pass easily, and if Harper really wants to make everything a confidence vote, the Liberals aren't going to choose digital rights as the election issue.

          [TMB]
          [ Parent ]
  • Not news (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 29, @10:36AM (#21518441)
    This is hardly surprising. The current Canadian government is more interested in mirroring American political issues than doing the bidding of it's own people.
    Most of us here are embarrassed. Sorry, we'll vote better next time.
    • Re:Not news (Score:5, Funny)

      by Presto Vivace (882157) on Thursday November 29, @10:47AM (#21518589) Homepage Journal
      Most of us here are embarrassed. Sorry, we'll vote better next time. hey, that's our excuse!
      [ Parent ]
      • Re:Not news (Score:5, Funny)

        by ColdWetDog (752185) on Thursday November 29, @10:55AM (#21518713) Homepage

        Most of us here are embarrassed. Sorry, we'll vote better next time. hey, that's our excuse!

        That was our excuse and I'm pretty sure we copyrighted it (or maybe we patented it, I get so confused these days). Give it back.

        Besides, it doesn't work very well.

        [ Parent ]
    • Re:Not news (Score:5, Informative)

      by MrAndrews (456547) * <.moc.liamg. .ta. .won.si.mcm.> on Thursday November 29, @11:01AM (#21518801) Homepage
      Actually, it's not so much American politics as it is the will of American corporations... the government apparently got the entire text of the bill from the MPAA [pttbt.ca]...
      [ Parent ]
      • Re:Not news (Score:5, Insightful)

        by gstoddart (321705) on Thursday November 29, @11:16AM (#21519041) Homepage

        Actually, it's not so much American politics as it is the will of American corporations

        American politics is the will of American corporations nowadays. It was US corporations which pressured the US government to strong arm everyone in the WIPO to adopt these rules.

        The *AA's managed to influence the laws in many countries by influencing American politicians to serve their own purposes. We all lose.

        Now that they have made almost everyone else adopt these laws, they've started to lobby the government to harmonize US laws with everyone else. So, they managed to get everyone else's laws updated so they could then get domestic laws updated.

        How messed up is that?

        Cheers
        [ Parent ]
      • Re:Not news (Score:5, Interesting)

        by gstoddart (321705) on Thursday November 29, @11:27AM (#21519217) Homepage

        Maybe you should try RTFA or at least RTFS. This is not about bending to the will of America, it is about complying with international treaties.

        Which American politicians pushed on the members of the WIPO after they'd been lobbied by the *AAs.

        The bending has already happened, and, yes, America were the original instigators of these measures. They insisted that everyone else adopt these laws, because they wanted to protect the American movie and music industries.

        This is not adhering to international treaties that everyone else in the world decided we needed. It was in response to pressure from American interests that it all happened in the first place.

        Bush is still an ass, but, I don't know if these measures were pushed on his watch or Clintons. But, don't pretend that American interests weren't being served when these treaties were signed.

        Cheers
        [ Parent ]
      • Re:Not news (Score:5, Insightful)

        by kebes (861706) on Thursday November 29, @11:36AM (#21519383) Journal

        Canada has its own laws, and its own legislature. It can choose to withdraw from the treaties (very unlikely since there a major downsides to leaving WIPO).
        Yes, this is largely about complying with international treaties which Canada has already agreed to. So, to a large extent, the complaint is that said treaties should never have been signed in the first place. The WIPO provisions for DMCA-like legislation greatly over-reaches. So, even though this treaty has been signed, it should not be followed. Signatories should "do the right thing" and repeal their support for said treaties. (Wishful thinking, I know.) Just because a treaty has been signed does not, of course, make it proper and correct.

        This is not about bending to the will of America, it is about complying with international treaties.
        Well, actually Michael Geist explains [michaelgeist.ca] the situation as:

        The new Canadian legislation will likely mirror the DMCA with strong anti-circumvention legislation - far beyond what is needed to comply with the WIPO Internet treaties - and address none of the issues that concern millions of Canadians. The Conservatives promise to eliminate the private copying levy will likely be abandoned. There will be no flexible fair dealing. No parody exception. No time shifting exception. No device shifting exception. No expanded backup provision. Nothing.
        (Emphasis added.)

        In fact, there is a concern that while legislation is being proposed to conform to treaties, the opportunity will be seized to extend the laws beyond what is strictly required. In particular, it was found [michaelgeist.ca] that some members of Canadian government are being influenced (financially, etc.) by U.S. lobbies. So, there is a real danger that overly restrictive laws get put in place in order to appease U.S. corporations (or the U.S. government, depending on how you want to look at it).

        It's not as simple as saying that Canada must comply with the treaties it has signed. As you say, the law can be implemented in various ways, and we must all do our best to insure that they are implemented in sane, democratic, and freedom-preserving ways. (Which may mean not implementing them at all.)
        [ Parent ]
  • Here's a suggestion: (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Sockatume (732728) on Thursday November 29, @10:37AM (#21518461) Homepage
    Kill it with fire.
  • Geist's list of 30 things (Score:5, Informative)

    by morgan_greywolf (835522) on Thursday November 29, @10:38AM (#21518491) Homepage Journal
    Geist's list of 30 things you can do [michaelgeist.ca], linked to in TFS, is pretty good, actually, no matter where you live. Even if your country already has a DMCA-like law, you can still fight for it or certain provisions of it to be repealed. Just replace the Canadian-sepcific info with the equivalents in your country.

    Furthermore, some of it just plain good advice -- only buy DRM-free music and videos, release stuff under the Creative Commons licenses. And so forth.

    Most of you are gonna be like, yeah, yeah, but no one cares. That's not true anymore. Now that the MAFIAA have become a nuisance and even public enemy #1 as far as some are concerned, the public will push for change. Like it or not, most politicians eventually cave to public opinion. After all, they need the public's support in order to get elected.
  • Finally! (Score:5, Funny)

    by pushing-robot (1037830) on Thursday November 29, @10:40AM (#21518501)
    After that whole dollar thing, I thought we'd never be able to make fun of Canada again.

    Blame Canada! Woohoo!
  • Contact Your MP (Score:5, Informative)

    by whisper_jeff (680366) on Thursday November 29, @10:45AM (#21518559)
    If you are Canadian, I encourage you to contact your member of parliament [parl.gc.ca] and make sure they know you, as a voter, want them to put the concerns of Canadian consumers before big business (especially foreign big business).
    • Re:Contact Your MP (Score:5, Insightful)

      by dmatos (232892) on Thursday November 29, @11:34AM (#21519333)
      Until the actual bill is posted somewhere where it can be read, there is no point in doing anything. Hell, I haven't even seen a number that's been assigned to this bill.

      My MP has responded in a timely manner to even emails that I've sent him about my opposition to specific pieces of legislation. I will wait until it is actually tabled before I start doing anything. Right now, it's just FUD. "A possible bill that may be proposed might have horrible consequences for the state of copyright in Canada."
      [ Parent ]
  • The last straw (Score:5, Funny)

    by ngunton (460215) on Thursday November 29, @10:54AM (#21518699) Homepage
    That does it! I'm moving to... oh wait
  • A law without enforcement (Score:5, Insightful)

    by courteaudotbiz (1191083) on Thursday November 29, @10:56AM (#21518725)
    The parliament can vote whatever-the-law they want, but they still have to apply it. And the RCMP (our equivalent of the US FBI) explicitly said that they won't go after any individual for copyright infringement...

    So what's the use of a law if you're not to enforce it?
    • Re:A law without enforcement (Score:5, Insightful)

      by vux984 (928602) on Thursday November 29, @11:09AM (#21518903)
      So what's the use of a law if you're not to enforce it?

      Selective enforcement.

      They only enforce it when you need leverage over someone. And since practically everyone will be a rampant violator, whenever the government wants to shut somebody up, or suspect them of rape, murder, vandalism or whatever and can't prove it, they'll just charge them with 4000 counts of violation of this law, and threaten them with a billion dollar penalty.

      [ Parent ]
  • Relationship w/ Government (Score:4, Interesting)

    by debrain (29228) on Thursday November 29, @11:25AM (#21519183) Journal
    Wasn't the woman in charge of copyright reform in the Canadian Government and in a closet relationship with a member of the Canadian Recording Industry Association?

    I can't find the reference, now, but thought it relevant. Maybe someone can find it?

  • So where's the bill? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by idan (98190) on Thursday November 29, @02:49PM (#21522685) Homepage
    The Parliament posts its order of business .. here:

    http://www2.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Pub=status&Language=E&Mode=1&Parl=39&Ses=2 [parl.gc.ca]

    This supposed "Super-DMCA" is nowhere on the list of house or private members bills.
    The government never gets through its order of business anyways, so if this thing is supposed
    to get tacked onto the end of the list at some future date, it's unlikely to even
    get a reading during this session of parliament.

    Sure smells like fear-mongering, rather than anything serious..
    • Unlikely (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Seek_1 (639070) on Thursday November 29, @10:45AM (#21518553)
      I'd say extremely unlikely. We've been fairly (and rightly) entitled to fair use, personal copying etc for a while now thanks to the levy. All this will do is create confusion and cloud the issue.

      That said, if there is any sort of Canadian Consumers user group that I could contribute to in order to help oppose ridiculous lobby-funded wastes of our government (and people!)'s time like this, I'd be more than willing to contribute...
      [ Parent ]
          • Re:Unlikely (Score:5, Informative)

            by Bullfish (858648) on Thursday November 29, @11:27AM (#21519213)
            Of course the moment that Hans Schrieber connected Harper to Lyin' Brian Mulrooney the party dropped eight points back in the polls to be tied with the liberals again... I sincerely doubt that this legislation will be given high priority
            [ Parent ]