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Interpol Unscrambles Doctored Photo In Manhunt

Posted by kdawson on Tue Oct 09, 2007 04:39 AM
from the blur-schmlur dept.
jackpot777 writes in with an AP story out of Paris reporting that Interpol has distributed photos of a man suspected of sexually exploiting children. The images were recovered from pictures taken off the Internet in which the man's face had been blurred using something like Photoshop's Filter > Distort > Twirl tool. German police were able to recover recognizable images of the man, whose identity and nationality are not known. Interpol would not discuss the techniques used to recover the images. jackpot777 writes: "It does show one interesting facet of internet privacy that has also been noted with topics ranging from reading blurred check numbers in images to Google's plan to blur out license plate and face data for Street View. And that is: blurring is not the same as completely obscuring. As computers become more adept at extrapolating data of different types, your identity isn't safe unless you completely cover all those identifying features."

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  • Pictures (Score:5, Informative)

    by avij (105924) * on Tuesday October 09, @04:40AM (#20908823)
    (http://eurobilltracker.net/)
    The pictures [interpol.int] can be seen on Interpol's site.
    • Re:Pictures by allcar (Score:2) Tuesday October 09, @07:27AM
      • Re:Pictures by mdwh2 (Score:1) Tuesday October 09, @08:20AM
        • Re:Pictures (Score:4, Interesting)

          by ehrichweiss (706417) on Tuesday October 09, @09:28AM (#20911209)
          (http://www.quantumtemple.com/)
          At least in this case, it's dealing with filters applied by software, so the algorithm can be examined, and it's perhaps reversible, whilst in 24 they often apply it to things like poor quality or low resolution cameras, and magically enhance the details.

          I've got a friend that was charged for burglary one time and the company that charged him submitted their surveillance video footage to some supposed forensics team so they could see if they could derive his face from the blurry video. What was brought to light was that the idiots also submitted my friend's work ID, and an old one that didn't really look like him any more, with the video. The team then returned a video that showed how they "matched" my friend to the person seen in the video...they morphed several stills grabbed from the video with....you guessed it...my friend's ID and THEN they showed their derived picture right next to the old ID. I took one look at it and told him they had absolutely zero case against him if that's all the evidence they had. I didn't even have to show up as an expert witness since the judge was wise enough to realize what was going on.
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          • Re:Pictures by IgnoramusMaximus (Score:2) Tuesday October 09, @04:03PM
            • Re:Pictures by ehrichweiss (Score:2) Wednesday October 10, @07:18PM
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        • Re:Pictures by badasscat (Score:3) Tuesday October 09, @11:36AM
          • Re:Pictures by PW2 (Score:1) Tuesday October 09, @06:50PM
            • Re:Pictures by clarkcox3 (Score:2) Thursday October 11, @09:44AM
          • Re:Pictures by bh_doc (Score:1) Wednesday October 10, @12:22AM
            • Re:Pictures by zgornz (Score:1) Wednesday October 10, @12:03PM
              • Re:Pictures by bh_doc (Score:1) Wednesday October 10, @09:44PM
            • Re:Pictures by Bloke down the pub (Score:2) Wednesday October 10, @04:47PM
              • Re:Pictures by bh_doc (Score:1) Wednesday October 10, @08:16PM
          • Re:Pictures by LordVader717 (Score:2) Wednesday October 10, @02:11PM
        • Re:Pictures by plover (Score:2) Tuesday October 09, @08:54PM
      • Re:Pictures by insertwackynamehere (Score:2) Tuesday October 09, @08:44AM
      • Re:Pictures by Threni (Score:1) Tuesday October 09, @09:25AM
        • Re:Pictures by fishbowl (Score:1) Tuesday October 09, @09:28AM
        • Re:Pictures by allcar (Score:1) Tuesday October 09, @11:27AM
    • Re:Pictures by neodiablo22 (Score:1) Tuesday October 09, @07:43AM
    • Re:Pictures by blahlemon (Score:2) Thursday October 11, @11:30AM
    • Re:Pictures by petermgreen (Score:3) Tuesday October 09, @06:28AM
    • Re:Pictures (Score:4, Interesting)

      by fractoid (1076465) on Tuesday October 09, @06:33AM (#20909417)
      Well, I'd guess the twirl is a convolution filter followed by a twist. If you can separate it out then you can reverse the twist, and then deconvolve the resulting blurred image, you get the original image. I'd guess. But it's been a while since I did computer vision, and it's probably more complex. :P
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      • Re:Pictures (Score:5, Informative)

        by mikael (484) on Tuesday October 09, @08:52AM (#20910743)
        A convolution filter would allow you to sharpen or blur the image, or maybe even pick out high frequency detail.

        The spiral distort effect is simply a mathematical function to map one point in a rectangular mesh to another. You basically convert integer pixel coordinates into a floating-point coordinate system with the origin at the centre, apply a rotation based on the distance from the origin, convert back into integer pixel coordinates and transfer the pixel data.

        Consequently, since every pixel is remapped to a new position, the transformation can be reversed.
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        • Re:Pictures by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Tuesday October 09, @09:33AM
        • Re:Pictures by diggum (Score:1) Tuesday October 09, @10:08AM
          • Re:Pictures by mikael (Score:2) Friday October 12, @12:03PM
        • Re:Pictures by debuglife (Score:1) Tuesday October 09, @11:40AM
        • Re:Pictures by hesaigo999ca (Score:1) Wednesday October 10, @07:37AM
      • Edit >> Undo
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      • Re:Pictures by AndyG314 (Score:2) Tuesday October 09, @10:57AM
        • Re:Pictures by badasscat (Score:2) Tuesday October 09, @11:43AM
          • Re:Pictures by slimak (Score:3) Tuesday October 09, @01:00PM
          • Re:Pictures (Score:4, Funny)

            by Beardo the Bearded (321478) on Tuesday October 09, @08:58PM (#20920629)
            Thoughts on why they want to keep the technique secret:

            "Woah, we caught a break, sir. That pedophile just used a twirl filter."

            "No kidding? Did you get his face out of th..."

            "Already done. Hopefully more of those assholes will use that twirl filter."

            "Yeah, good point. Keep it quiet. I'll make up some story about secret techniques and taking six months."

            "Oh, sir, one more thing. We really should get a legitimate copy of Photoshop."
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          • Re:Pictures by fractoid (Score:2) Tuesday October 09, @09:12PM
      • Anyone want to bet by objekt (Score:2) Tuesday October 09, @11:24AM
      • Re:Pictures by fractoid (Score:2) Tuesday October 09, @09:03PM
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    • Re:Pictures by mdwh2 (Score:1) Tuesday October 09, @08:23AM
    • Re:Crucial overlooked ideas (Score:5, Insightful)

      by djh101010 (656795) * on Tuesday October 09, @09:13AM (#20911007)
      (http://www.productrecallwatch.com/ | Last Journal: Tuesday October 09, @10:26PM)

      They could then look at the twirled test image and come up with a mapping of twirled pixels to untwirled pixels. This information could be used to "untwirl" the original image by grabbing the pixels at the twirled coordinates and moving them back to where the mapping says they probably originated.


      It probably helps a LOT that in several of the images, there's a strong line visible in the background. Measure the twirl of that, you've got your benchmark right there. Center of the twirl is probably easy enough to locate too. So there's your twist, and where to apply it.

      It's a good thing so many criminals are dumb. It's the smart ones that you have to worry more about.
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    • Re:Pictures by jackpot777 (Score:1) Tuesday October 09, @12:30PM
    • Re:Pictures by Sinryc (Score:2) Tuesday October 09, @01:32PM
    • Re:Pictures by NMerriam (Score:2) Tuesday October 09, @05:10PM
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  • Amazing technology (Score:5, Funny)

    by alx5000 (896642) <alx5000@@@alx5000...net> on Tuesday October 09, @04:42AM (#20908831)
    (http://vistoenbp.net/)
    Amazing, indeed [imageshack.us]
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 09, @04:43AM (#20908839)
    Let's get this guy behind bars by the end of the week. Photo 1 [waffleimages.com], Photo 2 [waffleimages.com], and Photo 3 [waffleimages.com]. Photo 4 [waffleimages.com], Photo 5 [waffleimages.com], Photo 6 [waffleimages.com], Photo 7 [waffleimages.com], Photo 8 [waffleimages.com]
  • Interpol not the ones to descramble (Score:5, Informative)

    by packeteer (566398) <`moc.noisnemidbus' `ta' `reetekcap'> on Tuesday October 09, @04:43AM (#20908841)
    From the interpol web page it says:

    These pictures have been produced by specialists from Germany's federal police force, the Bundeskriminalamt, working from originals found on the Internet, which had been digitally altered to disguise the man's face.
  • The actual AP article (Score:5, Informative)

    by avij (105924) * on Tuesday October 09, @04:44AM (#20908847)
    (http://eurobilltracker.net/)
    .. can be read here [google.com].
  • Super-sekr1t unblurring techniques (Score:5, Insightful)

    by acb (2797) on Tuesday October 09, @04:44AM (#20908849)
    (http://dev.null.org/)
    Surely Interpol's top-secret image-unblurring technology is just a matter of applying the Twirl effect in the opposite direction at the same location, and perhaps applying some image-enhancement plug-ins to the resulting area? I doubt it's anything one couldn't do with off-the-shelf software.
  • A twirl is essentially shifting pixels around an image, and is designed to keep as much information as possible.

    A blur on the other hand, especially a gaussian blur, will mix pixels together in such a way that any recovered image will be one of many possible outcomes.

    Then again, removing information, by pixellating for example, would be best.
  • Hardly Rocket Science (Score:5, Insightful)

    by clickclickdrone (964164) on Tuesday October 09, @04:50AM (#20908883)
    (http://pcbookreview.com/)
    >Interpol would not discuss the techniques
    I showed this to my PS using friend and he shurgged, said 'Just do a radial blur in the opposite direction' and 30 seconds later had a picture about 80-90% as good as the one they're waving about as being the result of some super secret methodology.
    It does strike me as a bit stupid explaining it all - now crims will just use better techniques for blurring themselves out. The media, law enforcement agencies are doing this more and more and it's insane - "we just had an idea for a terrorist attack that might happen and here it is in full", "This is foresnic evidence that allowed us to catch the crim" and so on.
    • You realize why they are saying all this? by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Tuesday October 09, @04:59AM
    • Re:Hardly Rocket Science by zebslash (Score:1) Tuesday October 09, @05:37AM
    • Re:Hardly Rocket Science (Score:5, Insightful)

      by suv4x4 (956391) on Tuesday October 09, @05:57AM (#20909255)
      I showed this to my PS using friend and he shurgged, said 'Just do a radial blur in the opposite direction' and 30 seconds later had a picture about 80-90% as good as the one they're waving about as being the result of some super secret methodology.
      It does strike me as a bit stupid explaining it all - now crims will just use better techniques for blurring themselves out. The media, law enforcement agencies are doing this more and more and it's insane - "we just had an idea for a terrorist attack that might happen and here it is in full", "This is foresnic evidence that allowed us to catch the crim" and so on.


      Yup, they spun it (pun intended) into cheap PR. The problem is, it's not that they are super smart, it's that the criminal was super stupid.

      And it'll make anyone with basic image processing skills question their overall expertise if they'd brag about untwirl.

      That said, the average folk will definitely be impressed. I knew a guy who inverted his photo in attempt to protect his identity (no, he didn't molest children). Imagine his shock when I took the inverted photo, inverted it again arriving at the original.

      To him I'm probably some sorta super genius who used sophisticated data restoration hack. To a guy with basic knowledge, it's nothing worth noting.

      To see how blur can restore detail not visible to the naked eye, check out Focus Magic [focusmagic.com]. Not as easy as untwirl, but gives you an idea. This is because the blur distribution (usually gaussian if digital, or linear with cameras) gives away the possible origin position of the pixels.

      If you pixelize however, with big enough square, you lose real resolution and that's much harder to restore anything interesting out of (it's not like in movies, with the unlimited extrapolation techniques, as we all know).

      Other gotchas: covering with black rectangle but leaving it only 1-2% transparent. Looks solid, but data can be recovered.

      And a very common other method: people keep leaving their name and camera model in the meta info of the image. Easy to check out via right-click>Properties in Windows.

      PS: it was "twirl", not "radial blur" btw.
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      • Re:Hardly Rocket Science by locster (Score:1) Tuesday October 09, @06:27AM
        • Re:Hardly Rocket Science (Score:4, Interesting)

          by suv4x4 (956391) on Tuesday October 09, @06:42AM (#20909473)
          I also wonder if you could recover an image of someone's face from pixelated video. If the camera or the person is moving but only slightly then you may be able to determine the x,y movement of the whole image from the non-pixelated parts of the image. From this you can then consider each of the large pixelated pixels as a sample point on the person's face, and as they move you aquire additional sample points. Over enough time, say a 5 minute interview, you might be able to reconstruct a recognisable face.

          Ah, good point indeed. If it's a video, yes, you can restore extra detail.

          There are lots of cameras out there which use a simple version of this trick to shoot higher res photos than their matrix is (by shooting several photos with sliightly offset matrix and assembling those).

          And there's already software in wide use which can take existing video footage of, say, recording a page of a book for a while with low resolution, and using the minor motion/shifts in the frame to automatically arrive at a much higher (and accurate!) resolution image. It's amazing the amount of detail it can restore.

          Since pixelization is in fact reducing the resolution, the same applies there.

          I guess the only sure method is not to leave anything that can be analyzed. Don't wanna be recognized.. ? Don't allow to be recorded/shot.
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  • a better solution (Score:4, Funny)

    by User 956 (568564) on Tuesday October 09, @04:51AM (#20908895)
    (http://www.atomjax.com/)
    As computers become more adept at extrapolating data of different types, your identity isn't safe unless you completely cover all those identifying features.

    Yes, or you could just stop molesting children and photographing it.
  • blurring != obscuring; true, but... (Score:4, Informative)

    by Animaether (411575) on Tuesday October 09, @04:54AM (#20908919)
    (Last Journal: Wednesday December 20 2006, @07:31PM)
    true, blurring isn't the same as obscuring. That said, a twirl/swirl filter isn't a blur filter either. A twirl/swirl filter relocates pixels from position A to position B. The original pixels are still largely there, you just have to move them back from B to A. That's what Interpol did here - kudos to them for figuring that out. But a blur filter doesn't just relocate pixels - it blends a bunch together. Now don't get me wrong - there's certainly deconvolution methods to reduce blur - especially motion blur - ( one example software: http://www.focusmagic.com/ [focusmagic.com] ) but you're not going to be able to just take any heavily non-motion blurred image and get a supersharp result back. Other techniques, such as pixelization, are even worse to restore - you may as well not try.

    -That- having been said.. yes, obscuring does tend to be better.. as long as it's a proper obscuring and not some half-hearted attempt by a news station where an interviewer / whatever has said to want to be inrecognizable, and then you just get a dark silhouette of the person where you can 1. still make out the silhouette, 2. their voice goes unaltered, 3. bump up the brightness enough and you can even make out a face or, in the case of yea olde license plate, a black bar that is supposed to 'track' the license plate properly, but the person applying the bar is a lazy-ass tracker and it 'swims' over the plate, revealing tiny bits of the bottom/top on certain frames - not too much guesswork involved to figure out the proper license plate, as even with multiple possibilities, only one is likely to match the type/color of the car when looked up on the interwebs.

    Now then... Let the "what if somebody photoshopped somebody else's head on there first, then applied the filter, now some poor innocent sap is framed!" replies begin.
  • Just cut that part out of the image, and use some algorithm to fill in the blank space without depending on the original data in that area. Hey, if you are blocking out a license plate in that way, the algorithm could even fill in something that looks like a license plate but with some random characters instead of the original ones. It doesn't matter what the algorithm does, since the information you wanted to hide was completely removed before using that algorithm.
  • Once the data's gone, it's gone... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Gordonjcp (186804) on Tuesday October 09, @05:06AM (#20909023)
    (http://slashdot.org/)
    As computers become more adept at extrapolating data of different types, your identity isn't safe unless you completely cover all those identifying features.

    Uhm, no. As other posters have pointed out, all they did was reverse the distortion applied to the image - which in this case didn't really lose much information, just nudge it about. If you blur out someone's face, the detail can never be recovered. No, not even by the NSA. The information is lost. You *can* sharpen up edges and improve contrast, but if the information just plain isn't there any more there's not a lot you can do.

    Think about it this way. A digital image is just a string of numbers. If I take a string of numbers and apply a "filter" to it then I get (0.4, 3.0, 6.2, 3.4, 5.4, 5.8, 2.6). From that, can you work out what the original values were? Possibly, because my filter is very simple. However, you don't know how much precision has been lost, or what the initial values were, so it would be nigh-on impossible to work out the original values.

    Incidentally if anyone does work out the original sequence, I'd love to hear about it.
  • In other news... (Score:5, Funny)

    by djupedal (584558) on Tuesday October 09, @05:11AM (#20909045)
    "As computers become more adept at extrapolating data of different types, your identity isn't safe unless you completely cover all those identifying features.""

    New laws were passed today, making it a felony to obscure, obfuscate, scramble, cover or otherwise purposely mask your identity by modifying a digital image for the purpose of avoiding identification by law enforcement agencies.
  • by noidentity (188756) on Tuesday October 09, @05:24AM (#20909099)
    Of course with PDF even if it appears to be completely blacked out [schneier.com], it might be still readable by copying and pasting the text.
  • The perfect setup (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 09, @05:35AM (#20909151)
    How soon before someone Photoshops in the face of someone they don't like into KP, obscures it, then releases it knowing the cops will unobscure it and arrest him?

    When he claims "it wasn't me" will he be able to prove it? Sure, the cops are supposed to have the burden of proof but when it comes to bogeyman charges like terrorism and KP juries usually go with the prosecution regardless.
  • Hmm (Score:5, Funny)

    by SamP2 (1097897) on Tuesday October 09, @05:37AM (#20909167)
    I wonder when I'll be able to buy the software that automatically unscrambles all the pixelated regions on my rather specific-content Japanese DVDs.
    • Re:Hmm by yoprst (Score:1) Tuesday October 09, @06:39AM
    • Re:Hmm by EnsilZah (Score:2) Tuesday October 09, @07:46AM
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  • Dalton? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by The Yuckinator (898499) on Tuesday October 09, @05:56AM (#20909253)
    Am I the only one who thinks this guy looks a bit like Dalton McGuinty? [wikipedia.org] Given that we heard about his other habits [wikipedia.org] right before the last Ontario election.....
  • The Doctor? (Score:3, Funny)

    by FlopEJoe (784551) on Tuesday October 09, @06:31AM (#20909411)
    See, I'm not a fan of the story arcs, "the Doctor is mistaken for a bad guy." For one, they never seem to go very far. Like that guy harassing Martha's mother in the middle of season three? I thought that was going to go somewhere and...

    Oh wait, this isn't about Doctor Who... never mind.

  • by gweihir (88907) on Tuesday October 09, @06:43AM (#20909485)
    There will be some loss at edges, but this "twirl" looks like a completely reversible operation to me. I seriously hope criminals will keep being this stupid.

    Blurring is different, it removes inromation. In some cases blurring might just not remove enough information. For example (as one of the lonks in the story shows), blurring keeps the sum of black and white constant in an area. If you then have to distinguish between a sign with little black in it and one with a lot, that is still possible with blurrs. What is not possible is to reconstruct faces from blurrs. Unless you have several blurred images of the same face or a movie. Then unblurring faces could become a reasl possibility.
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  • by Lethyos (408045) on Tuesday October 09, @06:54AM (#20909529)
    (Last Journal: Saturday March 08 2003, @03:00PM)

    It is patently ridiculous to imply there is some secret or sophisticated method to undoing the twirl effect as available in Photoshop. All one needs to do is find the bounds of the distortion (which, admitted, is a painful process of trial and error), then perform the distortion with an opposite value to the original. This particular effect is not intended to destroy any pixels, only relocate them, so restoration is intuitive. You can all try this at home: simply load an image, twirl it, then perform the inverse as I describe. And with a little determination, you can successfully reverse the effect on the article photograph (as I did).

  • remember some cases when people deleted data in word documents but did not purged the undo history

    or cases when people added black onto a pdf document, without converting the document (open it with acrobat writer & remove the color)

    as always, people must know what they do
  • Manhunt? (Score:4, Funny)

    by RandoX (828285) on Tuesday October 09, @07:21AM (#20909729)
    Am I the only one disappointed to find out that this doesn't have anything to do with the Rockstar game?
    • Interpol. by jackpot777 (Score:1) Tuesday October 09, @07:44AM
  • Interpol's got nothin on CSI (Score:4, Funny)

    by Jtheletter (686279) on Tuesday October 09, @07:43AM (#20909953)
    If this were an episode of CSI They could have simply drag-and-dropped the photo into their "automatically un-distort face in image" program, then zoomed in over the man's shoulder to read the artist's signature of a painting behind him. Then recognizing that these paintings are only sold from one obscure store in New York City, they drag-and-drop the photo into their "compare to every frame of every NYC ATM to this picture" program and found a frame of him standing conveniently in front of his license plate, which they could also zoom in to read the registration sticker text.

    Get with the times Interpol. Sheesh, CSI wouldn't even have had to use their "match a partial fingerprint I zoomed in 6000% to get off of a glass of water in a 72dpi jpeg to every known felon in the US in under 10 seconds during witty banter" program to solve this one!
  • by S3D (745318) on Tuesday October 09, @07:48AM (#20910021)
    They apply reverse twirl, probably deconvolution, and some enhancement filters until they got something which looks like a picture of a man. Or they let artist to enhance the resulting image until it looks like a man. But why should anyone believe that the resulting picture is of the same man that was before the image was scrambled ? The only way to prove validity of the method it is to disclose it and let everyone to check it on several dozens of images.
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  • by yodleboy (982200) on Tuesday October 09, @08:10AM (#20910243)
    what i've always found crazy about digital images... i'm looking at a blank monitor screen (don't get smart, i have 2 monitors). on that screen, every possible image no matter how private, or bizzare is available by just activating the correct pixels. seriously, every scene from history. every fantasy. in photo realistic detail. what if there was a program that would plow through every possible combination. what images might pop up? why waste bluegene on chess? creepy.
  • Interpol, eh? (Score:2)

    by BorgCopyeditor (590345) on Tuesday October 09, @08:20AM (#20910381)
    For their next trick, Interpol will turn dark-side-of-the-earth satellite photos into something legible using their custom-built Photoshop plugin, Turn On the Bright Lights.
  • by orb_fan (677056) on Tuesday October 09, @08:22AM (#20910403)

    Please lets get the terminology correct - the perp's image was distorted with a swirl tool, not blurred. The distinction is that distorting moves the image data to different locations based on a mathematical formula, usually with little change to the data, run that formula in reverse regains the original image.

    Blurring spreads the data from a single pixel over an undetermined number of other pixels. Depending on how the blur is applied gives varying degrees of difficulty in reversing the blur. Applying a Gaussian blur to the whole image or section usually means that the Gaussian is used once on each pixel so the new pixel's value is a known sum of the pixels around it. However, most image packages have a blur tool that blurs what's under the cursor, so the movement of the cursor determines what the contribution is to the final pixels.

    It's great that the prep obviously had no understanding of the difference, as with any luck he'll be caught.

  • by rcasha2 (1157863) on Tuesday October 09, @08:37AM (#20910551)
    If interpol or some other "good guys" can do it to identify the bad guys, the bad guys could do it too. How about the many photos in which victims' faces, or vulnerable witnesses, or whistleblowers, are blurred in some similar way. I can't help imagining some poor sod who, years back, gave evidence that put some members of a dangerous gang behind bars, feeling safe in the knowledge that the only photos which appeared had their faces blurred out, then reading this news item ...
  • CSI (Score:2)

    by gringer (252588) on Tuesday October 09, @08:49AM (#20910695)
    1. Zoom on that region there
    2. Untwirl
    3. Enhance
    4. Over there on the right
    5. Enhance
    6. Enhance
    7. ???
    8. Profit!
  • Multiple Images helped Interpol (Score:2, Informative)

    by fast turtle (1118037) on Tuesday October 09, @08:54AM (#20910765)
    Everyone who's talking about blur/twirl/pixelation has forgoten the important thing. Interpol had multiple images. Think of this as having several frames from a film. This gave them enough information to not only un blur/twirl but to compensate for pixelization. So there was a bit more then that used to get the recovered images
  • This is what interpol site says:

    INTERPOL is seeking the help of the public to try to identify this man, photographed sexually abusing children in a series of images posted on the Internet......

    I have seen that guy somewhere, I remember him because of his very distinct features. [interpol.int]
  • by pev (2186) on Tuesday October 09, @09:16AM (#20911045)
    (http://www.audiogeek.co.uk/)
    In the practical world we live in this is great for identifying the ****. However in the legal world his lawyers live in surely all they have to do is claim that the prosecution is relying on a doctored digital image as the sole evidence...?

    ~Pev
  • "Interpol Unscrambles Doctored Photo In Manhunt"

    "Interpol Unlocks Les Paul in Guitar Hero II"

    "Interpol Tracks Down Level -1 in Super Mario Bros."

    "Interpol Acquires 'Marathon Man' Achievement in Halo III"

    "Interpol Microwaves Weird Ed's Hamster in Maniac Mansion"

  • Interpol discovers the real secret hidden behind the Myspace angles.
  • ...or at least something about it? The twirl filter is a canned algorithm in photoshop so, as others have pointed out, it doesn't seem so shocking that one could untwirl it post hoc if just handed the image. However, given an arbitrary home grown distortion or filter, I'm not so sure it would be so straightforward. I supose if you knew the initial state was a face, perhaps that alone would help leverage some information about the mapping.
  • by Qwrk (760868) on Tuesday October 09, @10:27AM (#20912097)
    Nea, that was a sick suggestion....... I admit. Vote me down ! ;-(


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    the last words of my grandfather,
    who said '.....a truck!'.....

  • Next time you twist your photo just do it twice. Once to the left and one to the right. A black box always helps.
    • ROT-26 FTW! by solaraddict (Score:1) Tuesday October 09, @07:23PM
  • by skintigh2 (456496) on Tuesday October 09, @12:25PM (#20913977)
    Of course you need to figure out the size and center of the twirl and its angle, but I'm guessing the twirl function didn't just relocate pixels but overlapped them and averaged them. In a way, the overlapped areas would be like a one-way hash function: there would be no direct way to calculate/decrypt what the original data was, but a program could be written to guess-and-check all the possible inputs to find ones that match the output (like a hash collision) and then determine which was the most likely input.

    It actually sounds like a fun program to write...
  • l33tn3zz (Score:1)

    by billcopc (196330) <vrillco@yahoo.com> on Tuesday October 09, @12:38PM (#20914215)
    (http://fnarg.com/)
    Uber uncrackable image doctoring script:

    1. Select a rectangle around your face
    2. Fill with black
    3. ????
    4. PERVERT!!!!!!!

    For everything else, there's unsharp mask. You'd be surprised the kind of things you can "enhance" from a chunky low-resolution image.
  • by searchr (564109) <searchr@@@gmail...com> on Tuesday October 09, @12:43PM (#20914343)
    During the 18th and 19th centuries there was a brief art movement, heavy on the optical illusions. Basic mathematical gridwork would create massive smears of paint along a dozen yards of wall. But stand at one end and look down the length, the mush would coalesce into the intended landscape or portrait. One of the popular parlour techniques was to create a seemingly random "swirl" of color on a flat table/canvas. The viewer would place a mirrored or polished metal cylinder or inverted cone onto the table, and the swirl would transform into a face upon the cylinder.

    In other words, this trick is SO old, that if Interpol had brought H.G. Wells in for questioning about trying to tamper with a time machine museum "mock up", and Wells saw this photoshopped photo with the face swirl sitting on the inspector's desk, he would have made a cone out of an empty paper towel roll and some tinfoil, and easily revealed the identity of the suspect.

    Then he would probably have recognized the face as belonging to his old nemesis Jack the Ripper, and would then quickly dismantle his makeshift viewer and begin to look for a means of escape.
  • by laddiebuck (868690) on Tuesday October 09, @01:37PM (#20915237)
    The BBC's coverage [bbc.co.uk] of the story is as usual far less sensational and more informative: "The pictures had been manipulated to disguise the man's face with a swirl pattern, but computer specialists at Germany's federal police agency, the BKA, worked with Interpol's human trafficking team to produce identifiable images.". The other news (that story is from yesterday) is that there have already been quite a few reported sightings [bbc.co.uk], although naturally most are probably just overreactions.
  • by snoddy (94324) on Tuesday October 09, @05:30PM (#20918591)
    Interpol must have the technical resources to do a better job than a fudged untwirl. The image, with distorted left side, is still rather vague. But, perhaps encouraging folk to take their suspicions about their neighbours more seriously, is a good "side-effect".
  • twirl vs blur (Score:2)

    by m2943 (1140797) on Tuesday October 09, @09:58PM (#20921333)
    A twirl, for the most part, just moves pixels around, and you can recover the original by simply moving the pixels back.

    A blur is a transformation in which information is actually lost as pixel values get averaged and quantized. When people recover information from blurred images it's based on knowledge about what was originally there; for example, if you know it's one of 10 digits in a particular font, then you can often figure out what the digit was even if the image is blurred. You can probably not recover high resolution face images from blurred images because it's the fine details that matter.
  • Re:I bet it's made up (Score:1, Flamebait)

    by geomark (932537) on Tuesday October 09, @05:05AM (#20909011)
    (http://sixflags.dot-image.net/)
    Very well could be made up. Look at how police are compensated. They get rewarded for closing cases. The focus is on arresting a suspect and getting a conviction. Whether or not it's the right person is not part of their pay package.
    [ Parent ]
  • Re:Fingerprints? (Score:2)

    by pclminion (145572) on Tuesday October 09, @11:38AM (#20913267)

    Interesting idea. I have a few digital cameras, at least one of them has a couple of "dead pixels" on the CCD. These pixels appear pink on the raw images. However, the effect cannot be seen if the camera is not in raw mode.

    I assume the camera firmware corrects for dead pixels (probably substitutes an average of the neighboring pixels for the value of the dead pixel) so you don't see them normally. When the camera is manufactured they can test where the dead pixels are and program those locations into the firmware. But try flipping your camera to raw mode and see what you get. A particular pattern of dead pixels COULD be very strong evidence, although you still have to prove who was operating the camera when the image was taken.

    [ Parent ]
  • Re:His photo? (Score:2)

    by pclminion (145572) on Tuesday October 09, @11:53AM (#20913507)

    How do they know it's the guy and not some random someone-else? You'd have to be pretty dumb to use your own picture...oh wait, he's an idiot anyway.

    Nice circular argument there. "Only an idiot would place his own face in the picture. There is a face in the picture. It must be his, because he's an idiot."

    Wouldn't it be funny if they did the unscrambling and some well-known political figure's face emerged?

    [ Parent ]
  • Your "cue" has brought precisely zero people out of the woodwork. The technological aspect of this story is far more interesting that the legal aspect -- I think we can all agree that sexual predation on children is horrific. Nice try. Actually, I take that back. Pathetic try.
    [ Parent ]
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