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Verizon Reverses Itself On Pro-Choice News Texting Ban
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Zonk
on Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:04 PM
from the medium-is-the-message dept.
from the medium-is-the-message dept.
fermion writes "Verizon has reacted to an NYT report filed earlier today on their decision to ban text message news clips from a pro-choice group, reversing the ban on that content. 'Text messaging is a growing political tool in the United States and a dominant one abroad, and such sign-up programs are used by many political candidates and advocacy groups to send updates to supporters. But legal experts said private companies like Verizon probably have the legal right to decide which messages to carry. The laws that forbid common carriers from interfering with voice transmissions on ordinary phone lines do not apply to text messages. In reversing course today, Verizon did not disclaim the power to block messages it deemed inappropriate.'"
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Yes this is what net neutrality looks like. (Score:5, Insightful)
Great plan. (Score:5, Insightful)
What do you do about the political causes that aren't powerful enough to have some Times reporter's direct line? Guess they're S.O.L.
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Young people are going to be getting unasked for text messages advising them how to kill their children.
Making things up again? Naral only sends messages to those who sign up for them.
FalconRe:Great plan. (Score:5, Informative)
NARAL is for letting women choose for themselves whether or not they're going to have an abortion. Not the government, not the church, but the person who is actually, ultimately responsible for the fetus.
There is a big difference.
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Non big-brother uses of this ability might include their ability to control who uses their network for advertising and other 3rd party pay ser
Law Needs To Catch Up...Again (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Law Needs To Catch Up...Again (Score:4, Insightful)
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Re:Law Needs To Catch Up...Again (Score:5, Informative)
If the IGRA [igra.com] wanted to have its members sign up for updates by texting "cowboy up" to 57565, they would need to obtain a short code (the "57565") and obtain carrier approval to send and receive messages. It's the carrier approval that Verizon initially denied.
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MOD PARENT UP! (darn, I just used my last mod point earlier today)
This article touches on two key topics, censorship and abortion, that are sure to get people all fired up before they can read the details. You've covered censorship. Now I'd like to pour a little water on the abortion fire with this (FTA):
A spokesman for Verizon said the decision turned on the subject matter of the messages and not on Naral's position on abortion. "Our internal policy is in fact neutral on the position," said the spokesman, Jeffrey Nelson. "It is the topic itself" -- abortion -- "that has been on our list."
So they're not (at least they claim they're not) taking a "side" in the abortion issue, they just don't want to be associated with the issue at all. I'm not saying there isn't anything here to get f
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So they're not (at least they claim they're not) taking a "side" in the abortion issue, they just don't want to be associated with the issue at all.
But they're not associated with the issue, until they choose to not let people receive messages from NARAL, messages their users signed up to receive. If Verizon had wanted to stay out of the fray, they wouldn't have made the initial decision to block the messages in the first place. As usual, they are talking out of both sides of their mouth; they got called on it by the media and had to do a hasty retreat before a backlash occurred.
No, this is good. (Score:3, Insightful)
Scott McNealy said it best -- "Privacy is dead, get over it."
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(1) Common carrier means a corporation that holds
itself out to provide service to the public for hire to provide conduit
services including voice, data, or video by electrical, electronic,
electromagnetic or photonic means.
Hmmm... I think VZ reversed itself because it realized they had well and truly screwed up.
Re:Law Needs To Catch Up...Again (Score:4, Insightful)
Have you ever played Deus Ex? Near the end of the game, a character notes that surveillance fulfills a role that used to be reserved for religiously-inspired deities, in that at some level people want to be watched because they crave notice and approval, to believe that they matter and to erase the feeling of loneliness that civilization can otherwise paradoxically inspire. Humans, being social creatures, have a need to be a part of a greater whole, and define themselves at least partially by other people's labels and opinions. We may love our privacy, or seem to externally, but deep down we crave to be valued. The character points out that as the original religious paradigm began to lose significance, the need started to be re-located onto worship of fame, cults of personality, and ubiquitous state surveillance. Sound familiar?
Not that I normally take my sociological cues from video games, but this observation strikes me as an accurate one.
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You misunderstand; perhaps I came off as too defensive. I was attempting to distinguish myself from people (and they do exist) who uncritically swallow the ideas and ideologies of their favorite media, whether it be books, movies, or video games, simply because it is their favorite, and not because of the relative quality of the particular ideas being presented. A video game, per se, is no more or less worthy a conduit for serious ideas than any other media, though particular games may be individually more
This scares me (Score:3, Insightful)
what the (Score:2)
Verizon? (Score:5, Funny)
(Silver Ringtone Thing?)
Can you imagine ... (Score:5, Insightful)
Actually, considering... (Score:3, Insightful)
The number of companies that support Planned Parenthood, I was quite surprised to read that it was pro-choice messages that were being blocked.
IIRC, (and that's a big if) - just recently, a network covering the superbowl refused to carry a pro-life ad because of its "controversial" nature.
Think about that for a moment. They'll advertise contraceptives and STD medications on tv on a regular basis, (Toddler voice: Daddy, what's an S-T-D?), yet refuse to accept money for pro-life advertising. You woul
Time for a change. (Score:4, Interesting)
The laws that forbid common carriers from interfering with voice transmissions on ordinary phone lines do not apply to text messages.
Then that needs to change. Text messages are closer to speech than either campaign donations or flag burning. This isn't strictly a first amendment issue (since the first amendment only applies to the gummint), but for purposes of content voice transmission == text transmissions.
Plus, wireless carriers (in the U.S.) are a near-monopoly. If the three or four of them all adopt the same policy, then the group they're trying to squelch is completely locked out from that medium.
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It just isn't illegal.
Good Call (Score:2)
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WAKE UP PEOPLE in what alternate reality do you base laws on what people "are going to do anyway"? I mean by that logic we should get rid of all of the laws against normal murder, because hey, since we can't just walk people into a "deathspital" and have them killed, we have to go and do it in an alley. That's a slippery slope if I've ever seen one.
Or, lets see, people are going to steal
Re:WTF? (Score:4, Insightful)
I would say they appear to have fucked themselves. By taking steps to decide which text messages are "appropriate" for their network, are they not assuming responsibility for the content of all text messages carried on their network? The terms "safe harbour" and "common carrier" spring to mind.
Of course, IANAL, and may be full of it. But this doesn't look like a very smart move.
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