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FCC to Develop 'Super V Chip' To Screen All Content

Posted by Zonk on Fri Aug 03, 2007 08:49 AM
from the any-chance-we-could-stop-thinking-about-the-children-now dept.
An anonymous reader writes "The Senate Commerce Committee has stepped in and approved a legislation asking the Federal Communications Commission to 'oversee the development of a super V-chip that could screen content on everything from cell phones to the Internet.' Since the content viewed by children is no longer restricted to TV or radio Sen. Mark Pryor, D-Ark., the sponsor of the Child Safe Viewing Act, feels that the new law is necessary. 'The bill requires the FCC to review, within one year of enactment, technology that can help parents manage the vast volume of video and other content on television or the Internet. Under the 1996 Telecommunications Act, TV makers are required to embed the V-chip within televisions to allow parents to block content according to a rating system.'"
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  • Why not... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by deftcoder (1090261) on Friday August 03 2007, @08:52AM (#20099787)
    Why not just turn your children over to the government when they're born?

    Parents today obviously have ZERO interest in spending time with their children and monitoring their activities and habits.

    This is ridiculous.
    • Re:Why not... (Score:5, Insightful)

      by liquidpele (663430) on Friday August 03 2007, @09:02AM (#20099863) Homepage Journal
      Don't blame the parents! It's the fact that both parents have to work 10 hour/day jobs to afford their HD Cable with on-demand and HBO, 6MB DSL, 4 cell phones with unlimited texting with 2 year contracts, onstar GPS, the Wii, xbox 360, playstation III, netflix account, Tivo Account, gas, electricity, and food.
    • Re:Why not... (Score:5, Insightful)

      by garcia (6573) on Friday August 03 2007, @09:09AM (#20099933) Homepage
      Parents today obviously have ZERO interest in spending time with their children and monitoring their activities and habits.

      Being that I am finally of the age where my friends and co-workers have young children and I myself may soon have a child, I am noticing more and more the teaching and parenting skills that people have.

      Now, I am continuously out and about and watch the result of poor parenting when the little bastard bites your leg [bash.org] but recently I have been noticing a backlash against this. Parents are starting to spank their kids again (in public no less, the horror!), sternly talking to them instead of baby talk and asking what their true feelings are, and generally raising children that aren't going to run out in the middle of the street and then stare at you like it was your fault that you almost hit them.

      What this is, aside from the vocal minority of those parents that are still parentally retarded, is the politicians doing everything they can to create more censorship and centralized control under the guise of saving the children. If anything, these people aren't bad parents because they can't control their brats, it's that they can't control their government.

      Not controlling the government is far more scary than some little shithead not getting to watch Denis Leary call someone a fucking cocksucker and talk about his erection likelihood on Rescue Me.
      • Re:Why not... (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Opportunist (166417) on Friday August 03 2007, @10:11AM (#20100705)
        No. Actually, that technology give parents the fuzzy good feeling that they're in control. Newsflash: They're not. Did it work when your dad told you you are not supposed to go to that extremely important once-a-lifetime concert? Or did you sneak out?

        Technology alone cannot solve problems. Realize 2 things: First of all, your kids have way more time to figure out ways around your access control than you have to review whether your access controls work. And second, you have no control over the TVs of their friends. Even if your kids can't figure out how to circumvent the V-Chip, they simply go to their friends and watch that video there.
  • by BrunoBigfoot (996441) on Friday August 03 2007, @08:56AM (#20099823)
    Unplug the TV.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 03 2007, @08:57AM (#20099831)
    ..carpeting the whole world because we refuse to wear shoes instead.

    It is our obligation, as adults, not to prevent the reality from reaching the senses of minors, but to provide adequate explanations and guidance. Those technical censoring measures are the result of the intention to avoid adult responsibilities, to "sweep the problem under the rug", so to say.
    • by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 03 2007, @09:09AM (#20099937)

      Censoring for Children is like carpeting the whole world because we refuse to wear shoes instead.
      That analogy belies your point. I think V-chips are stupid, but a carpeted world sounds delightfully comfortable.
    • by GreyPoopon (411036) <gpoopon&gmail,com> on Friday August 03 2007, @09:17AM (#20100027)

      It is our obligation, as adults, not to prevent the reality from reaching the senses of minors, but to provide adequate explanations and guidance. Those technical censoring measures are the result of the intention to avoid adult responsibilities, to "sweep the problem under the rug", so to say.

      Sorry, but I disagree. It is our responsibility as adults to introduce children to reality as they are able to understand the explanations and guidance. A five-year-old is not likely to understand any possible explanation for a violent rape scene that he/she saw on TV. I'm really astounded that people think of the V-chip as censorship. Could somebody explain exactly how a screening tool that can be turned on or off by the owner is censorship? The V-chip is nothing more than a tool. It can be used for good and for bad. Good parents will carefully monitor what their children are watching (either to keep them away from inappropriate content or to explain questionable content). Bad parents will rely solely on the V-chip (a huge mistake) to allow them to shirk their responsibility. I have two children. I use the parental lock-down features on my cable box, but I also monitor what they are watching. The parental lock-down is nice because it cuts down on inappropriate content that may show up while I'm running through channels in the presence of my children. It also makes sure my eight-year-old isn't going to change channels to something that's not suitable for him (or his little sister) while I'm in the bathroom. But I'm also fully aware that it is not a substitute for responsible parenting. Some channels don't include rating informations for all shows (The Science Fiction channel and HDNet are two notable offenders), and the most questionable content comes from the commercials rather than the programming itself. Therefore, I make sure I'm there to explain behavior that is and is not appropriate. I like the V-chip as a tool, and nothing more. These laws aren't about mandating that people _use_ the V-chip. They are about making sure that it's available for those who _want_ to use it.
  • All content? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by captainboogerhead (228216) on Friday August 03 2007, @08:57AM (#20099835) Journal
    ...except commercials.
  • by 140Mandak262Jamuna (970587) on Friday August 03 2007, @08:57AM (#20099837) Journal
    I don't, I have a preteen kid. Among my friends almost nobody uses the V-chip. Infact half of them dont even know their TV has the V-Chip. And those who know find it a pain to set up thresholds and remember the password. The only person I know who knows how to use the V-Chip is my brother's 10 year old son. He is a remarkably curious boy who reads all the manuals and figures out things mainly to annoy the adults. He would set the V-chip threshold very low (or high, I dont know the parlance) and make his mom scream, in a strange mixture of admiration and admonition, "You make the TV play Law-and-Order now or I am going to ground you for a week!" and the boy would laugh and giggle.
  • by j.sanchez1 (1030764) on Friday August 03 2007, @08:57AM (#20099841)
    Does anyone not wonder what has happened to parental responsibility? I know what my kids watch on tv, movies they watch and what sites they visit on the internet, all without government intervention. This will just be another crutch for the negligent parents to use.
  • by glindsey (73730) on Friday August 03 2007, @09:05AM (#20099887)
    So every form of content that exists will require a mandatory rating by some sort of standards body? Because, after all, that's how the V-chip works at the moment.

    Yeah, good luck with that, folks.
    • by B1ackDragon (543470) on Friday August 03 2007, @09:39AM (#20100309) Homepage
      You know, the real tragedy here is that we've had movable type printing presses for some 600-800 years, and still no one has come up with a rating system for books! How am I supposed to know what books are appropriate for my children or school district without some sort of letter grade system!? I am supposed to actually read all these books? Why, there must be 10's of thousands of them out there.

      Obligatory User Friendly Strip [userfriendly.org]
  • by NJVil (154697) on Friday August 03 2007, @09:05AM (#20099891)
    Last night I went out to dinner with two close friends. As we watched, a mother semi-ignored her 4 or 5 year old girl as she cried and screamed and jumped up and down in a royal temper tantrum. It seems mom was too busy chatting with her friend to notice as the girl bellowed at the top of her lungs even as one of the waiters came over and offered the girl a balloon to silence the child. The mother occasionally glanced at the girl and said things like "It's okay." and "What's wrong?" then went right back to gossiping with her friend about what was going on at her job. This went on for 15-20 minutes until she finished her conversation and then all three left.

    It's bad enough that some parents think that television is a babysitter. It's even worse that some feel the Internet is a more interactive babysitter. Now, it seems, your cell phone and ipod are capable of acting as babysitters.

    Sadly, judging from my experience in the restaurant, technology might actually be a better babysitter than some parents...
  • Overkill (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ThosLives (686517) on Friday August 03 2007, @09:06AM (#20099899) Journal

    This technology is all overkill anyway, and here's why:

    To view content, you have to physically have access to a device that can display the content. As a parent, you should be able to remove that physical access for all 'locally controlled' devices; you can't prevent them from watching a friend's phone or whatever regardless of V-chips or whatever.

    There is this thing called an 'off switch' and, failing that, circuit breakers.

    You don't want them to have a phone, don't give them money to buy one. If they're old enough to get a job to afford their own, then they should already have the capacity to handle whatever content they can obtain anyway.

    To me, these laws just take away responsibility and, with it, freedom from the general populace.

  • by InvisblePinkUnicorn (1126837) on Friday August 03 2007, @09:07AM (#20099915)
    This is the same Mary Pryor who is cosponsoring the Protecting Children from Indecent Programming Act [slashdot.org].
  • At some point, it becomes really, really obvious that t his is what we actually call "government pork." Delicious, nutritious, government pork! The only question left is, who is being fed by this unfunded mandate?

    More concerning is the new anti-TV violence rules. I really don't want to go back to the days of the A-Team where you could have machine guns as long as they never hit anyone.

  • by insanemime (985459) on Friday August 03 2007, @09:14AM (#20099975)
    Ah yes...one step closer to a society that takes no responsibility for anything their children do. I guess you could argue that using a technology such as a super V chip helps parents automatically filter content that they are concerned their kids will see. Unfortunately, as a computer tech, I see so many parents ask tech shops about spying software and filtering software so they don't have to actively monitor what their kids are doing. If a parent is worried with who their kid is chatting with online then they need to be involved and ask. Parents have built in monitoring called "looking". I know its a low-tech foreign concept but it works. If you are open and honest with your kids, actively talk to them about dangers, keep them using search engines that filter bad content by default (like google) and watching what they are doing and who they are talking to on the internet then things like this are not needed. But that would take too much responsibility I guess.
  • Oblig.: (Score:5, Insightful)

    by TripMaster Monkey (862126) on Friday August 03 2007, @09:20AM (#20100051)
    Have you ever considered turning off the TV...sitting down with your children...and hitting them?

    - Bender
    • by Linker3000 (626634) on Friday August 03 2007, @09:02AM (#20099867)
      No, it means that those who see it will be instantly identified and required to report to a local center for neuralization, then the Government will...er, ah, what was I saying. I forget. Never mind - look, it's stopped raining.