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CSS of DVDs Ruled 'Ineffective' by Finnish Courts
Posted by
Zonk
on Fri May 25, 2007 02:26 PM
from the rip-away-my-pretties-rip-away dept.
from the rip-away-my-pretties-rip-away dept.
An anonymous reader writes "The CSS protection used in DVDs has been ruled "ineffective" by Helsinki District Court. This means that CSS is not covered by the Finnish copyright law amendment of 2005 (based on EU Copyright Directive from 2001), allowing it to be freely circumvented. Quoting the press release: ' The conclusions of the court can be applied all over Europe since the word effective comes directly from the directive ... A protection measure is no longer effective, when there is widely available end-user software implementing a circumvention method. My understanding is that this is not technology-dependent. The decision can therefore be applied to Blu-Ray and HD-DVD as well in the future.'"
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Catch-22? (Score:5, Interesting)
What this would seem to say to me is that in order to get to the point at which the protection measure is considered to be ineffective, you have to go through a point at which it is not widely available, and you're breaking the law.
Does that seem a bit wrong to anyone else?
Re:Catch-22? (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:Catch-22? (Score:5, Funny)
Alright trolls, here's your once-in-a-lifetime chance to have your goatse posts be ontopic.
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Re:Mod parent funny (Score:5, Funny)
I was furiously masturbating to it.
Oh wait, did I say that out loud?
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Re:Catch-22? (Score:5, Interesting)
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Re:Catch-22? (Score:5, Interesting)
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Re:Catch-22? (Score:5, Insightful)
If a crack is available openly in places where it is legal, and you can get to those cracks from within a country where it is illegal, then I could still come to the conclusion that the protection is ineffecetive simply because anyone who wanted to circumvent it would trivially be able to, even if no laws in that country had yet been broken.
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I think extending this to BR and HD is a stretch. (Score:5, Insightful)
Obligatory Monty Python reference (Score:4, Funny)
All Over Europe? (Score:5, Informative)
Correct me if i'm wrong, but afaik the meaning of directive is that each member-country has to make their own law, based on these directives. So they must make their own interpretations if the directive, and therefore court rulings cannot make a direct precedence across borders.
Re:All Over Europe? (Score:5, Informative)
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CSS? (Score:4, Funny)
Stop! I'm kidding. Put the flamethrowers away!
Nice... (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Nice... (Score:5, Insightful)
Nothing strange there IMHO, considering the following:
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"effective" means "used by copyrightholder" (Score:4, Interesting)
There is a problem with this ruling, as it only takes local law into account, and not the directive. According to the EU "solidarity principle", the interpretation of local laws made because of EU directives should be in line with the directive.
And the InfoSoc directive [eu.int] actually defines "effective technological measures" in article 6.3.
The definition is contrary to common sense. Basically the directive defines "effective technological measures" as "technological measures" used by copyright holders:
You can only get such perverted definitions if you let the copyright holders write the law! I'm glad that Finland will not take part in such a perversion.
Re:"effective" means "used by copyrightholder" (Score:5, Insightful)
The nice Judges in the Helsinki District Court have decided that, with the wide-spread use of DeCSS, CSS no longer achieves it's objective. So rather than make criminals out of all the Linux users in Finland (- those who don't watch DVDs on their computers) they have rightly stated that DeCSS isn't an effective encryption mechanism, and thus, it isn't any more illegal to bypass the CSS than it would be if the DVD in question were unencrypted.
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Well, then (Score:5, Funny)
Re:But... (Score:4, Interesting)
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Re:But... (Score:5, Insightful)
Your linkage of unauthorized decryption with violating copyright law is exactly what the "mafiaa" would like for you to believe. You've fallen into their trap. You have lost. Have a nice day.
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Re:But... (Score:5, Insightful)
Copyright law spells out how to tell if a use of copyrighted works is infringing or not, and provides a list of examples of non-infringing use.
However, enforcement technology may well prevent you from doing any sort of copying; even what is explicitly provided as an example of allowable use! Bypassing the enforcement technology for this purpose is clearly not a violation of the owners copyright.
So, circumventing the enforcement tech, and violating copyright are two seperate things.
Now, to continue on a slightly different topic... Why should circumvention be illegal in the first place? Copyright law already handles every case where someone who is circumventing the enforcement is doing something you'd classify as wrong. It seems to add redundancy, and more importantly, target a new class of people... namely those who are trying to excersize thier fair-use rights.
I'll leave it up to you to speculate who could want such legislation and why they'd want it. I'm pretty sure you can figure out my thoughts on it, I'll leave you to develop your own.
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Re:But... (Score:5, Insightful)
Because the satellite TV companies, and more recently the movie industry, bought up a lot of Senators and Representatives and got some legislation passed?
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Re:But... (Score:5, Insightful)
The answer you gave is to why it is.
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Re:Of course you know this means: (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Of course you know this means: (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Heh, heh, - ooops it was Finland, not Denmark (Score:5, Funny)
I didn't know you Albanians even had Internet access...
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