AACS Vows to Fight Bloggers
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on Fri May 04, 2007 10:09 AM
from the guerilla-bloggers dept.
from the guerilla-bloggers dept.
Jonas Wisser writes "The BBC is carrying the story that AACS has promised to take action against those who have posted the AACS crack online. Michael Ayers, chairperson of AACS, noted that the cracked key has now been revoked, and went on to say, 'Some people clearly think it's a First Amendment issue. There is no intent from us to interfere with people's right to discuss copy protection. We respect free speech.' The AACS website tells consumers how they can 'continue to enjoy content protected by AACS' by 'refreshing the encryption keys associated with their HD DVD and Blu-ray software players.'"
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Cue oft-used Leia quote... (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://www.unanimocracy.com/about.html | Last Journal: Tuesday April 04 2006, @12:04PM)
Actually, as I said yesterday [slashdot.org], ignore these threats. Go out and blog. Understand that freedom of speech is NOT a government-granted freedom, it is an inherent one that all people of all citizenship must understand. The U.S. Constitution's (Bill of Rights) 1st Amendment does not say "You are free to speak," it says that Congress shall make NO LAW restricting the freedom of speech -- NO law. Discussing encryption mechanisms is free speech, and Congress shall not abridge that. As for patents and trademark and the rest, as long as you do not mimic the mechanism in your own hardware or software, you're fine, Constitutionally. As long as you do not quote verbatim the actual code used to create this mechanism, you're not violating copyright. The DMCA is unconstitional, and regardless of what Congress, the Supreme Court, the President, or any company says, it is non-binding in terms of the moral realization that Congress, and honestly no State organization, can prevent you from freely airing your opinions. You are free to talk, but no one has to listen.
From yesterday's post I made about "legal recommendations for bloggers," go out and blog. Say what you want to say. There are more of us than there are of them -- not only can they not afford to go after everyone, they can not afford to go after even a small percentage. Let some bloggers get caught, and all it will do is show other people that non-violent actions should not be criminalized or penalized.
AACS, your days are numbered. Your salaries will end. Your powers will be diminished. It won't be because of competition from another company (that you are likely in bed with, in terms of promoting the abuse of State power), it will be because millions upon millions of people will ignore you, and all you do, in trying to revoke our inherent (and in my opinion, God-given) right to speak freely amongst ourselves.
Re:Cue oft-used Leia quote... (Score:4, Insightful)
(Last Journal: Saturday May 19, @06:02PM)
Re:Cue oft-used Leia quote... (Score:5, Funny)
Well, here's a screencap of HD-DVD.org showing the key [mac.com] on their own web site!
I guess they're going to have to go after themselves, now. Ve haff the evidence!
Re:Cue oft-used Leia quote... (Score:5, Interesting)
then you take it down and repost it with a refrence to the public record document.
Re:Cue oft-used Leia quote... (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://www.plasticuser.com/)
The hex code is a key. The key has certain protections under U.S. law. They have revoked the key. It is no longer a key. It no longer has certain protections under U.S. law. It is just a number that used to be a key. You publish the former key on your website. Nothing happens.
There, wasn't that fun?
Re:Cue oft-used Leia quote... (Score:4, Informative)
When they say they have "revoked the key", they mean they have revoked the device key for a specific software player. They have not done anything about the processing key that is floating around.
Re:Cue oft-used Leia quote... (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://www.dragonswest.com/ | Last Journal: Monday November 05, @07:35PM)
Yes. Just before the Death Star blew her home world to smithereens.
But let's hope that's not the case here, eh?
Re:Cue oft-used Leia quote... (Score:5, Funny)
>
> Yes. Just before the Death Star blew her home world to smithereens.
"I feel something hilarious has happened. As if 13,256,278,887,989,457,651,018,865,901,401,704,640 geeks cried out in laughter, and were never silenced."
> But let's hope that's not the case here, eh?
Not very long ago, on a website only a few dozen hops away, a great adventure took place.
(cue scrolling text)
Code Wars IV: A New Hope
"It is a period of civil war. Rebel bloggers, striking from all your base, have won their first victory against the evil MAFIAA Empire.
"During the battle, Rebel spies managed to steal secret keys to the MAFIAA's ultimate weapon, the AACS, an armored DRM system with enough power to annoy an entire planet.
"Pursued by the AACSLA's sinister agents, Princess Leia races home aboard her starship, custodian of the leaked key that can save her people and restore fair use to the digital media..."
Re:Cue oft-used Leia quote... (Score:5, Funny)
C-3PO: I would much rather have gone with Master Luke than stay here with you. I don't know what all this trouble is about, but I'm sure it must be your fault.
R2-D2: 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
C-3PO: You watch your language!
Re:Cue oft-used Leia quote... (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://orasio.freeservers.com/)
Dude it's a number. Granted a large number, but still just a number.
Are you telling me that projects like the one trying to find the largest prime can't publish that they've tested this number as a prime?
There are certain things you should NOT be allowed to own - a number is one of them.
Re:Cue oft-used Leia quote... (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Cue oft-used Leia quote... (Score:4, Insightful)
(http://gamesets.blogspot.com/)
From what I can tell, the AACS are not actually claiming copyright protection for the key, though, they are instead invoking part of the DMCA, claiming that the key's distribution violates the prohibition on releasing software to circumvent copyright protections. This is a separate issue, and one that is not easily resolved. To be honest, in spirit, they are probably right - people who distribute this key are doing so to stick it to the industry, and by the spirit of the law (whether you agree with it or not - I do not), should probably be considered to be doing something illegal. But I don't really think the key itself could reasonably qualify as software, and I think the DMCA is very specific about banning software that undoes copy protection, and never mentions a password that could be USED in software to undo copy protection, so everyone might be on fairly good legal ground, technically at least. Then again, I'm no lawyer, so who knows...I imagine judges get annoyed at people for this stuff since at root, people disagree with the laws in place and are pushing the boundaries of those laws just to piss on them, so I wouldn't want to be the guinea pig that tests out this stuff in court...
Re:Cue oft-used Leia quote... (Score:4, Informative)
(http://www.wyzardry.net/)
Actually, it isn't. What it actually says is:
(Emphasis mine.) I think the AACS LA could easily argue that the processing key is at the very least a "part thereof".
Re:Cue oft-used Leia quote... (Score:5, Insightful)
I don't think you can copyright 14 bytes. But the issue is not copyright, it is the violation of DMCA by providing a tool necessary to break any sort of copyright protection measures.
you can't post plans to view scrambled cable TV anymore (in the US), you can't post utilities designed to decode CSS so you can watch your DVDs on your computer. etc.
What's dumb is these companies going after average joes rather than people who are pressing boatloads of DVDs and importing them to the US. Or people who are hosting huge pay torrent sites to download movies. Or couriers posting the latest films on Usenet to be distributed to sites all over the world.
so will I be in trouble? My DNS resolves any string you give it, so if someone goes to http://09f911029d74e35bd84156c56356.rm-f.net/ [rm-f.net] they will get a page. (although not [currently] related to those keys)
Re:Cue oft-used Leia quote... (Score:5, Insightful)
No we cannot. Many of us believe that for that very reason (attempt at "ownership" or integer numbers, in defiance of the very phillosphical ideas of "ownership" or "trade") the so called "copyrights" are nothing but a scam, although they might have originated as an badly thought out, naive scheme to promote arts and science.
All of the so-called "intellectual property" schemes invariably fail the test of basic logic when analysed in depth, primarily due to the fact that they attempt to treat information as an entity which is subject to "trade" or "private ownership", for which information simply lacks the required attributes.
Re:Cue oft-used Leia quote... (Score:5, Insightful)
(Last Journal: Tuesday February 20 2007, @11:21AM)
+1 Funny, -1 Dishonest.
To wit: Can I publicly post your credit card number, expiration date, and CVN? They're just numbers... and how can ordinary numbers have implications for property and finances?
In fact, I have a list here of 10,000 valid bank-account and PIN numbers. My right to distribute them is a First Amendment Issue, damnit!
inapt analogy (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://underwhelm.livejournal.com/ | Last Journal: Monday August 20 2001, @02:49PM)
The AACS key is a password that's, in effect, distributed to everyone who owns a HDDVD and is furthermore useless to you unless you possess an HDDVD. It's an open secret. In that respect it's different from a credit card, and your analogy is inapt.
And it's not illegal to post a string of digits that may or may not be a credit card, without more, and the same should apply in the case of the HDDVD key.
Re:Cue oft-used Leia quote... (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://www.unanimocracy.com/about.html | Last Journal: Tuesday April 04 2006, @12:04PM)
I disagree. A free society is one where all citizens are equally free from legal force that gives power to some and takes power away from others, without their express consent (ie, a contract). In a free society, you and I can contract to limit each other -- but the State can not unless we individually tell them that they can. Also, a free society is one where an individual can make any decision they want, as long as they do not directly harm the physical property or body of another individual. Speech can not do physical harm, so speech can not be criminal, no matter how repulsive it is. The effect of the speech could be a physical reaction, but if that physical reaction is performed by a person other than the speech giver, the speech giver has not caused harm.
People will visit their library more. They'll go walk at the park with friends more. So while I think it's good to fight for our rights, the result wouldn't be that bad. "Burn the land, boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me..." We'll find plenty other things to occupy ourselves with. Who cares about AACS and movies and stuff when you can find something else just as, if not more entertaining, for half the price?
Entertainment has more to do with time preference decisions than just saving "money" doing something that might seem entertaining. Someone who is very busy and who has a high hourly-value to the market may want a quick relief of "getting away from reality" and may be more than happy to pay $150 per person to see an Opera. Someone who is not so busy, and may not command a high hourly-value to the market may be more entertained reading a book, which could take hours or days or weeks. It all boils down to how you (and the market) value yourself.
Personally, I see nothing wrong with paying $20+ to buy a movie -- if I can use it the way I want to. I prefer to live in a tiny home so that I do not have to pay for extra unused space. This means I have no room for the clutter of physical movies (DVDs, VHS, etc). Instead, I have a great Media Center PC (yes, Microsoft), and I have 1TB of movies and TV shows available to watch based on my mood. This is considered illegal, even though I have paid for all the movies and shows I watched. I also used my own time/labor to put those movies/TV shows on that PC. I've harmed no one physically, so the law is unjust and ridiculous. Provide me with a process to reimburse the authors/distributors/producers of a given content, and also allow me to put that content into a system that works with my life, and I will pay AND continue to be a customer. I don't believe in NOT reimbursing those actively involved in the creation of content. I have no desire to pay for the lawyers, DRM researchers, or those who lobby the State to use force against me to uphold their monopoly.
Re:Cue oft-used Leia quote... (Score:4, Informative)
(http://music.download.com/fearofzero | Last Journal: Saturday November 03, @08:55AM)
#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
unsigned char key[16] = {
0x09, 0xf9, 0x11, 0x02,
0x9d, 0x74, 0xe3, 0x5b,
0xd8, 0x41, 0x56, 0xc5,
0x63, 0x56, 0x88, 0xc0};
int main() {
int s;
int b;
for(s = 65 ; s <= 75 ; ++s) {
printf("Start = %c: ", s);
for(b = 0 ; b < 16 ; ++b) {
fputc(s + ((key[b] & 0xf0) >> 4), stdout);
fputc(s + (key[b] & 0x0f), stdout);
}
fputc('\n', stdout);
}
exit(0);
return 0;
}
And its output:
Start = A: AJPJBBACJNHEODFLNIEBFGMFGDFGIIMA
Start = B: BKQKCCBDKOIFPEGMOJFCGHNGHEGHJJNB
Start = C: CLRLDDCELPJGQFHNPKGDHIOHIFHIKKOC
Start = D: DMSMEEDFMQKHRGIOQLHEIJPIJGIJLLPD
Start = E: ENTNFFEGNRLISHJPRMIFJKQJKHJKMMQE
Start = F: FOUOGGFHOSMJTIKQSNJGKLRKLIKLNNRF
Start = G: GPVPHHGIPTNKUJLRTOKHLMSLMJLMOOSG
Start = H: HQWQIIHJQUOLVKMSUPLIMNTMNKMNPPTH
Start = I: IRXRJJIKRVPMWLNTVQMJNOUNOLNOQQUI
Start = J: JSYSKKJLSWQNXMOUWRNKOPVOPMOPRRVJ
Start = K: KTZTLLKMTXROYNPVXSOLPQWPQNPQSSWK
Let's just start making blog posts where the first letter of each word fits one of these patterns (and include the key via the subject line). Hell, you could write the README to a hddvd playing program so that each paragraph started with one letter, and the Makefile could generate the key from the README, so you wouldn't be distributing the key with the program...
Re:Cue oft-used Leia quote... (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://penguin.lvcm.com/)
I just want a working Video jukebox solution. The major players like Sony don't seem very interested in providing one and the industry will sue anyone else that tries.
The whole point of capitalism is that the garage shops get to fill niches that the megacorps don't want to bother with.
The sad fact remains that I will easily be able to pull BR/HD-DVD's into my Myth setup before there's a proper BR/HD-DVD jukebox from Sony.
Re:Cue oft-used Leia quote... (Score:5, Informative)
(http://www.pax-europa.com/)
Also very easy to crack players, as far as region free goes.
Re:Since they're just using Primes (Score:5, Interesting)
Oops - have I just infringed someone's valuable intellectual property?
What if I said it's also divisible by 19?
Or that the next-to-last digit is 4?
Could a lawyer please advise how many clues I can provide before I might get sued?
Re:Since they're just using Primes (Score:4, Informative)
(http://robots.org.uk/)
HAND!
Michael, you're dumb even by MAFIAA standards (Score:5, Informative)
Well, he certainly has that part right. What he fails to appreciate is that he will be on the losing end of every single one of those rounds. Even as he tries to downplay the key by saying it has been revoked, AACS has already lost the second round [arstechnica.com] (as hackers have created a hack that CAN'T be revoked).
Always a step behind, buddy. But feel free to keep wasting your money and pissing people off.
Re:Michael, you're dumb even by MAFIAA standards (Score:4, Insightful)
(http://wakaba.c3.cx/)
And that Ars Technica article is widely misunderstood and misinterpreted. That hack is, indeed, irrevokable, but it is also completely impractical for anyone but the most dedicated hacker, and it doesn't give you all the data needed to decrypt a disc, but only the Volume ID.
Re:Michael, you're dumb even by MAFIAA standards (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://www.ronfrazier.net/)
I'm not sure bloggers are the real audience (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://www.geof.net/)
The real target of this action is likely a different audience, namely Hollywood. The AACS doesn't have to make their DRM undefeatable. They do need to convince their customers - and remember, that's not us - of the value of their work. And when their DRM is broken and seen to be broken, they need to convince those who want to believe that they at least have not lost faith in the cause.
So we may talk about winning and losing, and people like use may be the targets of lawsuits. But I think we may be giving ourselves airs when we assume that for the other side it's about us. If, on the other hand, we figure out who our real audience is then we have a better chance.
The 'unrevocable hack' (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://kadin.sdf-us.org/ | Last Journal: Tuesday October 16, @01:46PM)
I spent a while trying to get my head around AACS last night, and the bottom line is that what comes out of the un-revocable hack that you mention isn't the same thing as what's being posted around the internet, and what the AACSLA has the whole revocation scheme for.
Oversimplification ahead, and I may have some of the details wrong or, but this is the gist of it: the content -- the movie itself -- is encrypted with title keys. These title keys are encrypted with a volume unique key (VUK). The VUK is composed of two parts, a media key and a Volume ID.
The Media Key is the thing that you get with the code that's being posted all over the Internet (the Processing Key). Processing Keys can be revoked, but only for new discs -- so the discs that are out in circulation as of the compromise of the Processing Key, are out. They're cracked. However, future discs will use a new Processing Key, and that one that's around on the internet won't work
The "un-revocable hack" you mentioned, doesn't have anything to do with the Media Key, it's all about the Volume ID. The purpose of the Volume ID is to prevent bit-for-bit copying. In a lot of ways it's very similar to parts of the CSS system used on DVDs right now; it's a key specific to each batch of pressed discs, written to the disc in a way that's difficult to read off manually (the drive isn't supposed to let the user see it at all), and impossible to write to a blank disc
So: while the Volume ID hack involving the XBox360 drive is a major step forwards (backwards if you're the AACS!), it's not a silver bullet, and it doesn't make future titles trivial to compromise. There's still going to be a cat-and-mouse game in the near future, where the AACS will try to revoke Processing Keys and try to discourage the publication of new ones as discs are released. (It's been pointed out by several people now, that the AACS' over-the-top reaction to publication of the processing key, may indicate that they've realized that their revocation procedures aren't nearly as fast or as flexible as the people who are going to be compromising them.)
lol battle of the dumb AACS Michaels (Score:4, Interesting)
(http://www.a4fs.net/blog/)
"Backers of the protection method are betting that AACS technology will finally thwart unauthorized copying of DVDs while allowing consumers to distribute movies legitimately over networks within their homes, play them on a variety of devices (standard televisions, portable movie players, and laptop computers), and store them on home media servers. "We wouldn't be investing our time otherwise," says Michael Ripley, the chairman of the AACS alliance's technical working group."
Well, Michael(s): any high school student could've told you this would never work. The reason is the same as always: you have to provide the machine with everything it needs to play back the disc. It's difficult (college students would say "impossible") to provide those things to the machine without providing those things to the machine. Cf. Cory's age-old piece;
http://craphound.com/hpdrm.txt [craphound.com]
09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://www.intelligentblogger.com/ | Last Journal: Monday August 27, @11:47AM)
mI0mUyOUE8S24UAsIVqR12Z8_P1WveIRFqpBO4FEeH_TPGuc0
QDhXbGpiERffrXz6lvQpcOFlDY_AXJWGw7f9saosuSBDj7c4e
l4APCHQIzYXETWu"xkhR4MNnw7zI_mBf5YJOLJ3DKD6wSQ6Pv
ZAPkCzunB7xarymAJEOOu0fe"tdhy"rZZY5XOSiipi6vf_84x
rPfhQQNneUX"JGXWhN3bgRIZwIOoIUu8c282MQ5_Grb6ALolI
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HH7DzXzB2tPz7i"L1Unvljgh05d1qoFs2N38qWugtaUMGM9RX
yUXVAbsO9ZcD33UKD80sulFF0FiSxIr4NOiRv4EZBoIU3eY1F
yi4NfhRLz3ai50dbx0CWCJwlvti_gsXgQLJrE70ihDROzdUyj
9AM2M99"s2d"hQxtoj7yTTki2M4dK3Y8_wvSyM8fp5fyyDpJW
z3W8iYIMIObDRG1H914rayBqj3EPhUDsz2NfVhjYBIxHBPgeW
saZXht6YNavXOyFLh24D84kXC4weBrJsI598yUpFhg41NB694
vZaHrMlSDxODtGlaU5rfJkODjrCr99Rr6hgQaegXnHE6Oe6iK
DwDtOw3"khTuVWYDStjRd4w2eOt2wvl24XvC3iDQBIA40uJQh
29XXEh_9hplaGD1YBw6pW2yiuyW8ifdaS4Mm7IGdH"6JMgSFg
k8"H70be7kCOdyDSLX9jLkz"4MF_LD"yaYdWopVnoryVQ9YD5
RqZmxLv2loAoM5WFs2""qGG4yATAMz9zhyuc4wMPZZLiZJhTt
pNNm045ma6vnqBdwtEE00zdjJBhBjz5VMoqPS6EZvQbwbEyiU
KJdzO7ATz47fYRWQZNWjy7Uda1P8RPnhSd2FbrL"aOegRzUX_
Azf
Re:09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 (Score:5, Informative)
(http://www.intelligentblogger.com/ | Last Journal: Monday August 27, @11:47AM)