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Fair Use In Scientific Blogging
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kdawson
on Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:28 PM
from the add-a-little-alcohol dept.
from the add-a-little-alcohol dept.
GrumpySimon writes "Recently, the well-read science blog Retrospectacle posted an article on a scientific paper that concluded that alcohol augments the antioxidant properties of fruit. The blog post reproduced a chart and a table from the original article and everything was fully attributed. When the publisher John Wiley & Sons found out, they threatened legal action unless the chart and table were removed. Understandably, this whole mess has stirred up quite a storm of protest. Many people see Retrospectacle's action as plainly falling under fair use. There is a call for a boycott of Wiley and Wiley's journals."
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Ridiculous (Score:5, Informative)
From Sec. 107 of the Copyright Act.
It doesn't get more simple than this. They've been hanging out with the RIAA too much...
Re:Ridiculous (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:Ridiculous (Score:5, Insightful)
Ah, I see that Wiley has followed Washington D.C.'s lead: before doing something objectionable, hire a junior staffer for blame absorption.
Unless, of course, anyone here actually believes that Wiley allows junior staffers to send out such demands without supervision. Uh huh.
On a more general note... these sorts of arguments about Fair Use are normal, healthy, and will occur regularly. Freedom and/or democracy means that there will be a great deal of public bickering. It's a Good Thing, because it means a) we aren't afraid to differ, b) we aren't afraid to talk about it, and c) we believe our countrymen are open to rational argument. A tolerance for this sort of tumult is a prerequisite to being a free society. Compare this to the fearful silence of a dictatorship.
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Yes, in addition, it creates a type of legal question-begging: if you routinely grant permission for what would be fair use anyway, no one can take you to court to say they don't need your permission to engage in fair use, so fair use rights can never be firmly tested. Very convenient!
Other questions to ponder are whether this is a routine scare-tactic from Wiley (
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In short - I wouldn't trust them as far as I could spit them.
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Maybe it's an ex-senior staffer who's now a junior staffer or is that even more unbelievable nowadays
IANAL, but is "Lisa"? (Score:4, Insightful)
That's odd... (Score:5, Insightful)
Come to think of it, industry researchers present slides with figures like that all the time, and it's not like there's a shortage of lawyers vetting them, and a lot deeper pockets for an angry journal to go after than some blogger has...
Agreed, and more so... (Score:5, Funny)
-Rick
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The latter are akin to artwork, which is what I think the blogger misses here. I don't really agree that she shouldn't be allowed to show a few select figures/tables,
Artwork ? You must be kidding, right ? All tables in my field are generated with a few latex macros, and figures with various plotting packages. Moreover, they are generated by the authors, not the publisher. You usually see a "reprinted with permission" when the figure is included in a an other paper or book that will be sold. Otherwize, it's perfectly fine to reproduce a figure or a table from someone else's paper, provided that proper credit is given.
but her argument that it's taxpayer-funded (and therefore free to anyone) doesn't hold water.
The purpose of scientific publication is to dissi
Re:Agreed, and more so... (Score:4, Insightful)
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Re: That's odd... (Score:2)
it sounds like she did what scientists do routinely, so I can't understand why they're suddenly picking on her.
Is fair use usually applied to figures? It's commonplace to see a figure labeled "used by permission", though you never see it on quoted text.
I'm not asking how things ought to be, nor how existing law ought to be interpreted. Rather, what is established praxis? For some reason hearing a complaint over a reproduced figure surprises me less than a complaint over a similarly-sized quote would.
Nice (Score:2)
I like how this article is juxtaposed with the MPAA story 'MPAA Committed To Fair Use and DRM' below. Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't this legal action have been threatened under the auspices of the DMCA? A bill which was bought and paid-for by the MPAA?
Fair use, my arse.
When Darwin Meets Publishing (Score:4, Interesting)
And it would seem that producing valid data in the form of a chart, publishing it and then going after someone for publicizing your findings is fool hearty at best, but sadly also very mean spirited and it works against the mission of the scientists in the long run.
I will not seek to help profit those who would still falsely believe in a captive audience, so therefore this publisher is coming off my reading list.
both sides (Score:4, Interesting)
They are known for extortion too! (Score:5, Informative)
loot at the actual link (Score:4, Interesting)
What do the charts represent? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:What do the charts represent? (Score:5, Informative)
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This is why we need Open Access. (Score:5, Insightful)
Yet despite the fact that these allegations have little merit (ethical or even legal), they create a very real chilling effect that slows science and decreases the distribution of information. Add to that the fact that most of this published research is funded by tax-dollars through government grants, and it becomes positively infuriating that the very scientists who do all the work are not allowed to freely disseminate the results of that work to the people, who pay for it.
This is why we all need to support the push towards Open Access [wikipedia.org] in scientific publishing. If you are a librarian, student, postdoc, academic or industrial scientist, you should be putting pressure on journals to open their content to the people who do the work and foot the bill. For instance, consider publishing in an open access journal (see list here [doaj.org]), or at least sign the petitions (US [publicacce...search.org] or Europe [ec-petition.eu]). Also see a discussion here [earlham.edu] which lists a bunch of things (small and large) that you can do to promote open access [earlham.edu].
Academic journals are generally a mess (Score:5, Informative)
So yeah. Fair use in blogs is just the tip of the iceberg - the most egregious issue is that *we* are the ones who write, check, and prepare the documents, and then we have to pay again just to read them (and even if we don't pay directly you can be damned sure the libraries pass the costs down to us in the form of tuition and such).
Problem already resolved (Score:4, Informative)
Way to go blog-o-sphere, for making your voice heard. Though, interestingly, they didn't state that it fell under fair use, but rather they "gave her permission" to use the figure and data. So, maybe only a half-win.
Lots of scientific journals need to be boycotted (Score:3)