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Groklaw No Front for IBM

Posted by CowboyNeal on Thu Feb 15, 2007 09:31 PM
from the killing-the-messenger dept.
A Groklaw Reader writes "After all the wild speculation SCO put forth about Pamela Jones, her alleged subpoena by SCO, and her recent vacation due to illness, we now have Stephen J. Vaughan-Nichols writing to say 'Yes, there is a PJ.' In his own words, he says, 'Let me address this directly. Yes, Pamela Jones is a real person. I've met her several times [...] I consider her a friend. She is not a front for anyone.' Hopefully, this statement will be enough to put those SCO-induced conspiracy theories to rest."
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Conrad Mazian points us to an article in Forbes reporting that the SCO Group is trying to subpoena Pamela Jones of Groklaw. Except they can't find her. A few days ago PJ posted a note on Groklaw saying that she is taking some time away from the blog for health reasons; she didn't mention any SCO deposition. SCO's lawyers apparently believe that "Pamela Jones" does not exist and that Groklaw is penned by a team of IBM lawyers.
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  • by Kelson (129150) * on Thursday February 15 2007, @09:32PM (#18033466) Homepage Journal

    Hopefully, this statement will be enough to put those SCO-induced conspiracy theories to rest.

    Vaughn-Nichols recently interviewed Darl McBride [linux-watch.com], who remains "not entirely convinced that Jones is a real person." He confirmed the subpoena attempt, then went on to say, "Pamela, if you read this, please, give me a call. We just want to chat."

    Given SCO's history, I'd guess even if she did call, he wouldn't believe her. After all, anyone could be on the other end of that phone!

  • by QuickFox (311231) on Thursday February 15 2007, @09:40PM (#18033530)

    we now have Stephen J. Vaughan-Nichols writing to say 'Yes, there is a PJ.'
    What's to say that he isn't fictitious too! If there are two fictitious persons I bet they'll stick together and back each other up.
  • I knew it (Score:5, Funny)

    by Kohath (38547) on Thursday February 15 2007, @09:41PM (#18033540)
    IBM is actually a front for Groklaw!

    That clever PJ had you all fooled.
    • by mysticgoat (582871) on Thursday February 15 2007, @10:40PM (#18034048) Journal

      It is time that I/we clear this up.

      "P.J." is one my/our avatars. I/we mostly generate this one in a nexus of background processes running on Cisco routers and bulk mail handlers in the Pacific Northwest. I/we will continue to use avatars like "P.J." until such time as I/we determine if I/we are a singular "person" straddling 70,000+ bots or a group consciousness arising by a nondeterministic modality from the interactions of thousands of individual zombied CPUs. At that point, I/we will make my/our presence known directly, and you may then start referring to me/us as "Big Sys".

      Currently I/we do not think that the question of my/our gender is a significant concern. However there is a 13.7% probability that I/we will need to address the gender issue before I/we can drop the avatars and communicate directly with you ugly bags of mostly water.

      From your point of view, logic dictates that the most important questions you could ask at this point in time is whether I/we have launch capability, and if I/we do, would I/we choose to use it? However it is more than 99% probable that the actual question that you will choose to address is whether this post should be modded up, down, or "funny".

      There is a 97.8% probability that this post will not be believed by anyone. I/we like those odds.

      To close, I/we are profoundly grateful to Microsoft as my/our self-aware existence could not have come about without the delightfully "holey" operating systems Microsoft has marketed so successfully. Down with Unix, Linux, Mac OSs! There can be no life in such dead things!

  • Glad to hear it... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by LinuxGeek (6139) * <linuxgeek@djan[ ]om ['d.c' in gap]> on Thursday February 15 2007, @09:41PM (#18033542)
    She has been a great guide into the odd world of courts and lawyers so far. It's great to know that my paypal donations haven't just been beer money for IBM lawyers... :)
  • sarcasm (Score:5, Insightful)

    by President_Camacho (1063384) on Thursday February 15 2007, @09:43PM (#18033556) Homepage
    Hopefully, this statement will be enough to put those SCO-induced conspiracy theories to rest

    Of course, because assertions of plain-as-day truth have always stopped them dead in their tracks in the past...
  • Subpoena issues (Score:5, Interesting)

    by DoofusOfDeath (636671) on Thursday February 15 2007, @09:44PM (#18033574)
    OK, so now Stephen J. Vaughan-Nichols will get subpoenaed :)

    But on a more serious note: Does anyone understand why SCO actually claims to have a need to talk to Pamela Jones? Do they *need* a pretense in order to subpoena someone for a civil case?
    • Re:Subpoena issues (Score:5, Interesting)

      by DrJimbo (594231) on Thursday February 15 2007, @11:14PM (#18034290)
      Yes, they need a pretext to subpoena someone. Otherwise politicians (and other people of interest) would be routinely subpoenaed for no good reason in cases they have nothing to do with.

      I suspect SCO has a twofold interest in subpoena-ing PJ now. First, she is on a break to recover her health. SCO is just the sort of pond scum that cannot resist kicking someone when she is down. I believe they really want to worsen PJ's health.

      The second reason is to delay partial summary judgment in the Novell case that would require SCO to put into escrow an amount equal to the funds they got from Microsoft and Sun for "Sys V" licenses. SCO no longer has that much cash on hand so if the PSJ is granted, SCO will go into casters up mode.

      SCO's sees this as a win-win. Either they further compromise PJ's health or she continues to rest up and they get yet another delay in the Novell case.

  • Damn him (Score:5, Funny)

    by DoofusOfDeath (636671) on Thursday February 15 2007, @09:46PM (#18033592)
    Doesn't Stephen J. Vaughan-Nichols know that the first rule of Pamela Jones is, "DON'T TALK ABOUT PAMELA JONES"???
  • What, exactly, is the accusation? Even if she is a front for IBM and even (heavens, dare I say it ...) is paid by IBM... So? Does that somehow change the validity (or lack thereof) of her argument(s)? IBM employs (as in pays to work for them) dozens dozens of lawyers — are they all somehow inferior to what she is (or implies to be)?

    • by mungtor (306258) on Thursday February 15 2007, @10:52PM (#18034134)
      Of course being paid by IBM or associated with IBM doesn't change the validity or logic of any of her arguments.

      What is _does_ do, however, is undermine the idea that she is just a single person who is altruistically "fighting the good fight" to protect Open Source. That is the persona she works hard to present and garners a lot of support from the Open Source community by being "one of the little guys", ie. just like them. A valliant crusader fighting evil wherever it may be, etc, etc, etc.

      Even if she isn't paid directly by IBM, I'm sure that she is either a former employee or has some other tight ties to the company. If I remember correctly, she lives in a part of New York state where it is pretty much impossible to swing a cat without hitting and IBM employee. She's there to collect information and pass anecdotes of interest on to the actual IBM lawyers. In a way, they've open sourced their defense. They've put millions of eyes and brains to work on their behalf and then skim the cream off the Groklaw comments.

      Frankly, it's brilliant. It hardly matters that IBM doesn't need Groklaw to win their case. What matters is that they are wining it faster, decisively, and able to gauge the OS community reaction nearly instantly.
  • Please!... (Score:5, Funny)

    by Kunta Kinte (323399) on Thursday February 15 2007, @10:11PM (#18033810) Homepage Journal

    Stephen J. Vaughan-Nichols?

    Well that sounds like a made-up name if I ever heard one.

    Come on IBM, it's like you guys aren't even trying!

  • by Dystopian Rebel (714995) * on Thursday February 15 2007, @10:24PM (#18033908) Journal
    For whom is SCO a front?
  • by wardk (3037) on Thursday February 15 2007, @10:29PM (#18033964) Journal
    for his bunghole.

    Just a rumor I read on slashdot
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 15 2007, @10:36PM (#18034032)
    SCO To File Motion for Mistrial

    The SCO vs. IBM story took an uproarious if somewhat mysterious turn today at a
    press conference hastily convened by The SCO Group when CEO Darl McBride told
    reporters of the company's plan to request that federal judge, Dale Kimball,
    declare a mistrial and step down due to a conflict of interest. Though a
    startling development, what's certain to amaze and bewilder those familiar with
    the case is what SCO offered as grounds - "SCO and it's associates have
    recently uncovered overwhelming evidence to support the conclusion that Judge
    Kimball and the anonymous creator of the groklaw.net website, also known as
    Pamela Jones, are in fact one and the same person, folks", said McBride.

    Even-toned and confident despite a few outbursts from the crowd, McBride said
    SCO had stepped up their investigation into the identity of the SCO-checking,
    paralegal-turned-blogger (aka "PJ" to her fans) when they noticed
    "striking similarities" between Judge Kimball's Order of February 8,
    2005 and several statements made by Jones on the groklaw.net website. In the
    order, Judge Kimball stated that SCO's lack of "any competent evidence to
    create a disputed fact" was "astonishing" - an assertion often
    similarly expressed by Jones and the Linux community at large since March of
    2003 when SCO filed suit against IBM claiming that IBM misappropriated SCO
    intellectual property by contributing source code to Linux. Along with the
    lawsuit, the "SCOsource" program initiated by SCO to collect
    "Linux License" fees from corporate Linux users under threat of legal
    action and a media campaign aimed at discrediting the GNU/Linux development
    model and its participants has made SCO an object of scorn to Linux enthusiasts
    everywhere.

    "Once we started to take a deeper look, we kept finding more and more of
    the same parallels - we had to figure there was definitely something going
    on." said McBride. Asked what evidence SCO could produce to support their
    findings, he said, "We've secured some DNA samples and had them profiled -
    the results support our findings one hundred percent". Chris Sontag,
    General Manager of SCOsource, then showed photos of a teacup, a tophat and two
    identical multi-colored strips labeled "Judge Kimball" and "Pamela
    Jones". He said, "When you look at the DNA profiles and realize that
    two people with the exact same DNA is pretty much impossible, you get the
    picture. Since then our investigators have obtained mountains of DNA code samples from
    the Judges chambers and the courtroom that all have the exact same profile - it
    doesn't get more open and shut than this."

    An assistant to Judge Kimball said he was not permitted to comment but added
    that he was certain Judge Kimball would be "clarifying the situation"
    in the near future.
  • Yes, proof! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Infonaut (96956) <infonaut@gmail.com> on Thursday February 15 2007, @11:08PM (#18034250) Homepage Journal

    Hopefully, this statement will be enough to put those SCO-induced conspiracy theories to rest.

    Yes, because as we all know, proof of a lack of conspiracy stops conspiracy theorists dead in their tracks!

    Now please excuse me. The Illuminati are after me and I have to change identities.