YouTube Restores Comedy Central Clips 150
ColinPL writes, "Though YouTube has removed Comedy Central clips, their corporate parent Viacom has confirmed that it wants to find some way to keep the clips available. Viacom has apparently given the green light for YouTube to put the material back up." Update: 11/02 20:49 GMT by Z : We received an email from DB Ferguson at the No Fact zone, letting us know things are a little more muddled than we might otherwise prefer. "This letter contains a link to Jeff's Idealog post where he had evidence that even more clips are disappearing, and I have copies of two Cease and Desist letters that were sent yesterday night from YouTube. The purge continues, despite the news reports that it has stopped or that videos are being put back in."
A good start... (Score:4, Interesting)
Comedy Central's clips are a start. A more serious matter is the misuse of the DMCA in efforts to stifle criticism.
An offshoot of the Scientology cult known as The Landmark Forum is using the DMCA against YouTube, Google and The Internet Archive because of a scathing French documentary about Landmark being shared on those sites. It aired in France to 1.5 million people, a month later Landmark pulled out of France. Story at the EFF's site [eff.org] and other news sources.
The video with English subtitles is available via BitTorrent at PirateBay [thepiratebay.org], search eMule for "Inside Landmark Forum" or view it online at DailyMotion [dailymotion.com].
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don't see why we should spend time educating ourselves on some cult very few have ever heard of when the cults of Christianity and Islam are everywhere and are significantly more powerful.
I would assume it's the misuse of the DMCA in efforts to stifle criticism that would make this of interest of
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Now you've got my attention. Where can I sign up for their newsletter?
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Wait, so how does this differ from Christianity/Judaism/Islam?
-Kap
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That's not to say I've never seen any of them deploy some of the nasty tactics you described but it's my impression that those are the Scientology fanatics. From what I've seen you can point to religious fanaticism in any religion and find a laund
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Landmark pays taxes (was Re:A good start...) (Score:2)
The main thing they have in common
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Some relgion have turned there version of christinity into a cult.
For example, If a catholic was to marry a non catholic, the churge could(but wouldn't) disallow you from attending service, but they don't send people to attack your spouse. They also don't tell you not to talk to your family anymore, and you dn't have to pay a dime to attend there service. Yes, they willask for a donation, but you don't ahve to give and you can still
The number 1 way to tell its Cult... (Score:2)
or as observed by others... (Score:2)
Religion: a large, popular cult"
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Scientology harrasses and/or kills anyone that is not a member of scientology. Unlike killings supposedly done in the name of Christianity, Ron L. Hubbards notes to his followers [planetkc.com] explicitly tells them to lie, cheat, steal, and kill!
Anyone who actually reads the Bible will find, "Thou shalt not kill", "Thou shalt not steal", etc, etc.
Lastly, remember the Xenu (sp?) spat with Slashdot a few years ago? How they fired off a Cease and Desist because a user posted their "copyrigh
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Give me a literal interpretation of this then:
"thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them."
Hint: It isn't the Qur'an
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A literal reading of the Bible would turn up a very clear theme for the military campaigns of Israel. One which explains why the Earth was flooded, and why Goliath of Gath (the Philistines, an offshoot of the Canaanites) was a giant. Of course, that requires that one believe in struggles between humans and fallen angel
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Oh, well in that case, no problem; on with the genocide!
"Anyway, my original comment never said anything about the Bible, so I'm not sure why you think this is even relevant."
Your original comment singled out a particular religions text as supporting violence if read literally, implying to me you intended some comment on that religion as opposed to others. I selected a passage from a different religions t
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I disagree. A call for genocide is appalling, the identity of the targeted group is irrelevant.
I think your identification of Islam as the problem is erroneous. On the one hand, it's too general; there are a handful of sociopathic nut jobs who think the Qur'an says what you say it does, and must be followed. But it's crazy to identify all
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The Bible (old Testament)is also filled with stories of death, destruction, doom and gloom at the 'hands' of the all knowing, all loving, and all powerful big "G". Of course, I believe that faith and therefor religion is an important part in the development of any person, particularly at an early age, for it's morals, proverbs, wit, and wisdom, but not to the point of closed minded singularity.
Cheers,
Fo
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Landmark and Scientology are corporation-cults. I know all those McChurches are trying hard to be corporatized in their operations, but they're still a few notches below where these guys are.
More to the point, when faced with a persistent evangelical, you know how to respond. When faced with a zombie-ed Landmark enthusiast who was a good friend from college (true story), you wouldn't know how to respond unless you had more information on the organization.
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On what basis? They aren't the copyright owner, nor are they the appointed representatives of the copyright owner. Until and unless the French documentary makers complain, what case do they have?
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Silly rabbit, you don't have to be the copyright owner or their appointed representative to issue a takedown request under the DMCA. The safe harbor provision basically says that you can't be held liable for your users posting copyrighted content as long as you take it down after receiving a takedown request. B
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I took my classes, got what I got out of it, and stopped. No one hassled me about it. No one c
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I actually had a roommate a few years back that got sucked into Landmark. Turned him from a very cool guy, to a very weird guy.
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Werner Erhard, the man who started EST which became Landmark, was a high level Scientologist. There is a definate link.
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You're welcome.
Colbert Report (Score:5, Interesting)
Had it not been for YouTube, I never would have found out about Comedy Central. I'd start tuning in, but I've disconnected my cable. Yet I recently noticed that Jon Stewart's show is up on iTunes. Hmmm.....
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Not if you you use a Mac. It wasn't always so. Originally the videos had a choice of Quicktime, Windows Media Player, and I think RealPlayer. Now they are only available in the current version of Windows Media, which is not supported by Microsoft's abandoned Mac client, nor by the Flip4WMV alternative plugin. And on Windows machines I've had very mixed results because I use Firefox instead of IE.
Re:Colbert Report.... Shh! (Score:1)
Btw, if it's already up, you seriously need to see yesterday's analysis of the Kerry- flap-up, absolutely the best coverage of the issue on any medium, including newsprint.
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This is exactly the sort of coverage that makes Daily Show and You Tube important to our political process. Instead of Kerry's odd responses, I think this clip should be forwarded to anyone spouting off about how "offended" they were.
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Couldn't they have filmed it through a pane of frosted glass while holding the camera at an "artsy" angle, just to make it even lower quality?
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You know whats going to suck? (Score:2)
Meanwhile I suppose the geeks will begging the corporate & government tag-team to "allow" things like GNURadio, spectrum sharing, etc. And the beat goes on...
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Yeah, that was fun. But do you realize how out of it you appear to be?
Back before the 2004 US elections, one of the most fun political stories was about several surveys that turned up the apparent fact that the people most likely to correctly answer questions about the candidates' policies and records were not those that watched TV news, but rather those that watched the Daily S
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Did I mention that I barely watch television? :P
Bingo. When you're reading, your brain is engaged. When you're watching television, you are simply absorbing like a sponge. Except that the facts (as they may be) tend to go by quickly. Thus if you get anything out of it, it's often confused and warped. It's hard to develop a valid opinion that way. :(
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Heh. Some years ago, when I was in college, a friend asked me to keep some stuff in my apartment over the summer. This included a TV set. By the end of the summer, I had to face the fact that I qualified as truly weird, when I realized that I'd never plugged it in. (I didn't own one myself.)
Closer to the present, we'd had cable TV here because my wife liked it for news and old movies. Back around the time of the 2004 elections, she noticed that since she'
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Your playground economics intrigues me, I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
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my 18"LCD
my 19" CRT
or my new 23" widescreen LCD.
at the resolution supported it's as good as regular lo def TV. so nothing spectacular for the wide screen, but as good as regular TV.
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I thought you said this was a legit question?
Oh well, just to clarify: My computer was already my television. I've been using a TV Tuner card to combine the two into a single display. (Saves a lot of space, as you might imagine.) It has provided a lot of advantages, including the ability to use my PC as a PVR.
With iTunes, my viewing experience has actually improved. The quality is better than a PVRed show (even at max quality; which
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Does it replace my TV? No. Is it easy to use and convenient? Yes.
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I notice that CBS is all over YouTube: they post clips, trailers, and so on, for their shows, under the member name CBS (age: 78).
Of course, this doesn't tell us what they do when other people post things from their sho
I wonder.... (Score:2, Insightful)
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"veiled attacks" on The Report mean great things for everyone who's being attacked. If anything, the major media outlets are beginning to realize that Internet content distribution is nothing but great for all parties involved.
I'm sure it has something to do w/the money that they see with Google floating in the background but that's for another story...
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Comedy Central.. (Score:2)
Re:Comedy Central.. Chappell show (Score:1)
The tension probably arises from the fact that one arm (prob. comedy central) made an agreement with iTunes, whereas another arm (i.e. Viacom) profits from DVD sales and/or general ad revenue. Obviously iTunes is a stupid idea - who cares to see the whole show vs. a particular segment.
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And as for FauxH^H^H^H^ Fox
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I certainly know that South Park's popularity was due greatly in part to it's availabilty on the internet. My freshman year in college I learned about it from friends who were downloading it. I don't think it was available on our cable channels yet. The free sharing of South Park certainly doesn't seem to have hurt it as a revenue stream.
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Still don't see the big deal (Score:1)
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-Em
Clips over 5 minutes (Score:2)
Obvious! (Score:1, Offtopic)
My rights online (Score:2)
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Well I, for one, welcome our fascist anti-comedic overlords. I'd like to remind them that as an avid internet user, I can be helpful in rounding up media pirates to toil in their underground reality-tv script caves.
Think twice before you react (Score:3, Insightful)
YouTube could have just told Viacom that the clips were pulled and that Viacom were free to upload them again assuming they specified that it was okay for the clips to be made available.
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that was predictable. (Score:1)
Does Youtube REALLY delete? (Score:2)
Does all this mean that Youtube never 'really' deletes any clip a user deletes?
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That wet, slurping sound you hear ... (Score:2)
What? (Score:1)
This is why we teach grammar in 2nd grade (Score:2)
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Any publicity is good publicity (Score:3, Informative)
It looks to me like Comedy Central subscribe to the axiom 'any usage is good usage'.
CC gets it! (Score:5, Insightful)
CC has realized that either they work the "best of" angle solely on their own site, with however much manpower and costs that would entail, or let the fans do it themselves on YouTube. With YouTube, not only do they not deal with the workload, but the fans themselves are in charge of what is or isn't a "greatest hit." That's as it should be, and something that the content producers rarely if ever get right, since all they'd have to go on are surveys, focus groups, and other troublesome hit-or-miss schemes.
1. Let the fans do the work of hyping up the shows.
2. More hype = more audience for the next ones. There are no ???s.
3. Profit!
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From TFA: Numerous short clips did remain available on the site, fueling speculation that Viacom was only concerned about longer clips.
Shareware (Score:2)
Give a short clip on YouTube that covers a particularly funny or satirical moment in the show. People can then browse at their leisure the "best of" a particular show. This drives viewers to the designated distribution channels to get the full content.
Stop thinking like a selfish content producer. Give the people what they want and they will come.
And stop thinking that any piracy is all bad. Piracy is unavoidable. Some people will either be too poor o
Run Doggie Run (Score:2)
Pleasant News (Score:2)
Schwab
I think the ArsTechnica report is wrong (Score:3, Interesting)
I'm surprised (Score:2)
It's down (Score:2)
here [utube.com]
No longer a need (Score:2)
So it's now not necessary to have them on sites like youtube. They finally wised up and realized that their idiotic site mis-design was driving people away to the copycat sites, and losing them all the eyes that they were obviously trying to get looking at their ads.
This is a disappointment in some circles, actually. Namely, the
I wonder what this means for Utube... (Score:2)
One would think that companies with conflicting names would have an arbiter or someplace to submit their name so that a heuristic or some-such program would be Google-like and display as screen saying:
"Your request is remarkably similar to the name of a valid company that is receiving an extraordinary number of of ir
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2. Offer money to YouTube to restore your materials to their database.
3. ???
4. Profit!
I think Viacom is banking on the fact that there is no step 3.
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yeah, it is a good way to promote general awareness, but the money to make those shows has to come from somewhere
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Welcome to (the day before) yesterday