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Slashback: Oklahoma Spyware, FSF DRM, Lenovo Linux

Posted by ScuttleMonkey on Wed Jun 14, 2006 07:59 PM
from the name-calling-always-looks-good dept.
Slashback tonight brings some corrections, clarifications, and updates to previous Slashdot stories including Oklahoma's Spyware Bill dies a quiet death, Lenovo denies ditching Linux, Mars rover escapes again, RIM CEO speaks out against unlimited wireless, Microsoft LiveMail gets ads, FSF anti-DRM campaign expands, and AT&T calls Wired to task over leaked documents -- Read on for details.

Oklahoma's Spyware Bill dies a quiet death. enforcer999 writes to tell us that the Oklahoma Computer Spyware Protection Act has been pretty much dismantled by the Senate review committee. From the article: "Sen. Clark Jolley, R-Edmond, the Senate author of the legislation, said revisions he had made to the bill were well received by those who had originally opposed it, but that after making the changes, the companies backing the measure -- which had included Microsoft and Symantec Corp. -- opposed it."

Lenovo denies ditching Linux. btornado writes "According to News.com, Lenovo has denied ditching Linux on their notebook computers. Lenovo actually plans to support Linux on its ThinkPads starting in the third quarter, in partnership with Novell. From the article: 'Customers of the recently introduced Lenovo 3000 units still won't have a preloaded option, however, because the small and midsize business customers that are the targets for those units have many different requirements, he said.'"

Mars rover escapes again. An anonymous reader writes "New Scientist is reporting that NASA's Mars Opportunity rover has freed itself from the sandy soil that ensnared it for more than a week. This is the second time the rover has gotten bogged down in a Martian sand trap. Both times, the rover has managed to escape to solid bedrock by churning its wheels in reverse."

RIM CEO speaks out against unlimited wireless. frdmfghtr writes "The president and co-CEO of Research in Motion seems to think that wireless data services providing unlimited data traffic for a flat monthly rate will have a 'devastating effect on wireless innovation.' From the article: '"No matter how you slice it, bandwidth is not free," he said. "If we don't set up economic incentives now, research and innovation for new networks won't happen for the future. We want companies to be encouraged to make efficient use of the network, so we don't cross over and use up all the capacity of the networks." Counters Jeff Pulver, the founder of Pulver Media, saying that (FTA) "unlimited bandwidth use in the wireless world is needed because access to the network is what spurs innovation."'"

Microsoft LiveMail gets ads. Blahbooboo3 writes to tell us BetaNews is reporting that Microsoft will be embedding advertising in their new e-mail client software, Windows Live Mail Desktop. Similar to Google's Gmail, it will serve ads based on the text of your mail messages. Microsoft's Active Search feature, being tested within Windows Live Mail Desktop, scans users' emails and displays potential search terms related to that email as well as text-based contextual ads. The effort is an example of the Windows Live ad-supported software initiative. Contextually relevant ads served by Microsoft-partner Kanoodle will be displayed next to each email message. Also, paid search links will be served by Microsoft adCenter when users conduct searches via a search box that's built into the mail interface.

FSF anti-DRM campaign expands. nanday writes "According to an article on Newsforge (Also owned by VA), the Free Software Foundation's Defective by Design campaign against Digital Rights Management expanded on Saturday, targeting Apple Stores in eight American cities. However, unlike the event outside WinHEC 2006 two weeks ago, this time the police and security guards were waiting when campaign volunteers arrived to demonstrate."

AT&amp:T calls Wired to task over leaked documents. John Young writes to tell us that AT&T is standing in opposition [PDF] to Wired's recent intervention and the unsealing of documents. AT&T stated that "Wired argues that it has a 'unique perspective in this case.' If that is anything other than hot air, it is a reference to the fact that Wired has leaked eight pages of what it claims are AT&T Proprietary documents--and did so despite actual knowledge that AT&T claims its documents contain trade secrets and the Court had ordered that such documents remain under seal. A 'unique perspective' indeed--that of the scofflaw. [...] Wired maintains that the Klein and Marcus Declarations should be unsealed in their entirety because "the course of events has overtaken the sealing order." The "course of events" to which Wired refers is, of course, its own leaking of subsets of the information that the Court ordered remain under seal. Wired's argument appears to be that because it has openly chosen to disregard the Court's order (not to mention AT&T's rights) the Court should reverse that order. Talk about chutzpah."

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[+] Hardware: Lenovo & Customer Perception 472 comments
music_lover writes "According to this article, Lenovo is losing current ThinkPad series customers to HP, Toshiba and other notebook vendors because of customer perception. Apparently, customers don't feel comfortable purchasing from a Chinese PC manufacturer now that the ThinkPad brand isn't supported by IBM anymore. Could this really be perception? Quote: "Despite the overall poor performance, Lenovo has still not gained the mindshare or the respect that the ThinkPads command. In fact, it has, to some extent, alienated ThinkPad's fans and taken a sales hit. In my immediate vicinity, those who owned ThinkPads have now traded up to an HP or a Toshiba. None of them went back to their ThinkPads. After asking for a clarification, I was told, "Who wants to buy things from a Chinese company?" That said, our corporate parent has continued to buy/use Thinkpads; the ones that I've seen do just fine, and they've added new machines and a parternership with AMD.
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groovy.ambuj writes "The Inquirer reports that Microsoft has developed Oklahoma's 'Computer Spyware protection Act'. The law will supposedly protect people from unwarranted hackers or virus attacks and can fine individuals up to $1M who are found guilty of breaking into a computer without the owners knowledge. At the same time, it also allows some of the better known capable companies to 'look' into your computer for possible virus/spyware and fix the problem without informing you. And, while these friends are doing their job, they can also take the moment to do other things. "
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  • by winkydink (650484) * <sv.dude@gmail.com> on Wednesday June 14 2006, @08:05PM (#15536438) Homepage Journal
    And it will stifle innovation? Oh yeah, just like internet innovation was severely stifled as most of the pay-per-bit billing schemes fell over the last 10 years
    • by Carnildo (712617) on Wednesday June 14 2006, @08:14PM (#15536495) Homepage Journal
      And it will stifle innovation? Oh yeah, just like internet innovation was severely stifled as most of the pay-per-bit billing schemes fell over the last 10 years

      Wholesale bandwidth (what an ISP or hosting facility buys) is still sold by the bit. It's only at the retail level (ISP customers and some hosting plans) where there's no limit.
      • Uh, no. (Score:4, Informative)

        by jd (1658) <imipak@ya h o o .com> on Wednesday June 14 2006, @10:20PM (#15537067) Homepage Journal
        If you're a corporation, you might buy a T1, T3 or even a T4 line. (No sane person buys T2, as fractional T3 is usually going to be cheaper.) You might even buy a service plan that "guarantees" you a certain AVERAGE bit-rate (except that there are so many get-out clauses that the guarantee isn't worth the paper it is written on), but you NEVER pay per packet, and CERTAINLY NEVER pay per bit.


        (The closest I've ever seen to a pay-per-packet scheme was the old Packet Switch Stream service from British Telecom, which charged per connection to the X.25 exchange AND per minute of connection AND per K of data sent AND per unit of time you spent on the phone line to use their bloody server in the first place. Sure, there's a per-K in there, but it was so small as to be a negliagible fraction of the total cost. And that WAS to end-users, so even there the claim is incorrect.)


        Peer-to-Peer backbone routing is usually at a nominal cost, as the whole idea of peering is that each network accesses the other networks equally in all directions with no bias or preference. Of course, if the preferential service system goes into effect, the entire backbone will collapse. It's impossible to have preferential service in a totally peer-based network.

          • Re:Uh, no. (Score:3, Informative)

            T2 and T4 are different speed connections, similar to the more common T1 and T3 lines. The speeds are as follows:
            • T1: 1544 kbps +/- 50 ppm
            • T1c: 3152 kbps +/- 50 ppm
            • T2: 6312 kbps +/- 50 ppm
            • T3: 44736 kbps +/- 50 ppm
            • T4: 274760 kbps +/- 50 ppm

    • IMO, they should set it up like a Danish ISP. (Disclaimer: (a) I work for them. (b) I do not think they have great prices, but not insane ones either)

      They have a flat rate plan and a flexible rate plan. In the flexible rate plan you pay less for speed (good for users who use internet sparingly and don't want to wait when they finally do) and in the flat rate plan they pay more for speed, but they can get as many gigs a month as they want.

      The way I see it, this makes planning infrastructure much easier. A
    • I say to you that the VCR is to the American film producer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone.
      Jack Valenti, Home Recording of Copyrighted Works, Committee on the Judiciary, United States House of Representatives, April 12, 1982

      Now look at all the money lost by the Hollywood studios in the 90's. Video recorders cleaned them out, I tell you. And the DVD nailed their coffin shut. All this is the reason we have no Movie/Recording industry in the US today.
    • Oh it's clear how this will doom innovation for all time. You see with free and unlimited access to the web people who would normally be innovating will now be tied up in flame wars and watching funny videos. Clearly their productivity would plummet and innovation would grind to a screeching halt. In fact we should destroy the internet completely in order to protect innovation.
  • Oklahoma Priorities (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Kelson (129150) * on Wednesday June 14 2006, @08:05PM (#15536441) Homepage Journal
    They can work out law that classifies video games as harmful to minors, but they can't work out a law to protect their citizens from spyware.

    Glad to know they have their priorities straight.
    • See, this is how it works. If they pass bills 'protecting' people, regardless of how stupid the laws are, they can say they are at least doing something 'for' people. If the would be good laws get passed over, it's just fodder that nobody remembers.
    • by sqlrob (173498) on Wednesday June 14 2006, @08:40PM (#15536620)
      Yeah, a bill (in it's original form) that let MS crawl your hard drive and forward data to cops, or delete anything they please is a good one that should be passed.

  • AT&amp:T ????

    Dooh! Damn shift key.
  • by garcia (6573) on Wednesday June 14 2006, @08:06PM (#15536450) Homepage
    The president and co-CEO of Research in Motion seems to think that wireless data services providing unlimited data traffic for a flat monthly rate will have a 'devastating effect on wireless innovation.' From the article: '"No matter how you slice it, bandwidth is not free," he said. "If we don't set up economic incentives now, research and innovation for new networks won't happen for the future. We want companies to be encouraged to make efficient use of the network, so we don't cross over and use up all the capacity of the networks." Counters Jeff Pulver, the founder of Pulver Media, saying that (FTA) "unlimited bandwidth use in the wireless world is needed because access to the network is what spurs innovation."'"

    I went with T-mobile for two reasons. 1) They are the only carrier that has a viable portable device for Internet connectivity and 2) They have an unlimited data plan at a flat rate $20.00 with T-mobile mobile phone service or $29.99 without.

    To claim that this somehow creates problems with innovation is insane! Hell, I certainly would NOT be paying per MB charges and I'm sure that many others would agree. People in the US are too used to "unlimited" connections (from the dialup days through today). Per MB/GB transfer charges would fall flat on their faces in areas with competition. Luckily, in the mobile market, there's plenty of that.
  • by antic (29198) on Wednesday June 14 2006, @08:09PM (#15536467)
    Could one reason behind the slow government action against spyware and spam be that those voting on and lobbying for/against the issue just don't spend enough time with a standard home internet connection to see what life on the net is like with these two annoyances?

    We should be able to surf the net without risk of being hijacked and we should be able to run websites and forums without copping spam each and every day. If you run a web-based business or a bunch of websites, dealing with spam can quickly become a significant headache that chews valuable time.

    For how long have spam and spyware been real issues for real internet users without strong action from those who could be increasing penalties and tracking these scum down?
  • by nuzak (959558) on Wednesday June 14 2006, @08:10PM (#15536472) Journal
    Here's a helpful translation tip, you can just mentally substitute the second phrase for the first whenever you encounter a corporate talking head saying it:

          "would stifle innovation" ---> "would impact our bottom line"

    Hope that helps.
  • Jolley's folly (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 14 2006, @08:39PM (#15536617)
    Sen. Clark Jolley, R-Edmond, the Senate author of the legislation, said revisions he had made to the bill were well received by those who had originally opposed it, but that after making the changes, the companies backing the measure -- which had included Microsoft and Symantec Corp. -- opposed it."


    Translation: My corporate masters are not pleased.
  • by DataPath (1111) on Wednesday June 14 2006, @08:41PM (#15536626)
    I thought that Wired DIDN'T violate the court ordered seal on the documents because the court order only prevented parties to the case from releasing the documents available to them by means of the case, and couldn't possibly apply to third-party sources that have the documents and aren't part of the case.
  • by topham (32406) on Wednesday June 14 2006, @09:04PM (#15536735) Homepage
    RIM wouldn't want unlimited networking available to just anyone.

    They prefer to negotiate with the carriers so their users can have unlimited network access, while everyone else pays through the nose.

    A little self-interest in limited access to the wireless network. No surprise.
  • by Sanity (1431) on Wednesday June 14 2006, @09:11PM (#15536763) Homepage Journal
    There was a very small group of us, but despite being kicked out almost immediately, we did manage to flier a number of people, and attract some attention.

    Personally, I think DBD should continue to target Apple, rather than moving on to movie studios, since the media companies (with the exception of Sony) couldn't impose DRM without the cooperation of companies like Apple.

    Lessons learned from the protest:

    • Don't organize a protest on private property (such as in a mall), security can and almost certainly will ask you to leave
    • Spend more than 2 days organizing it so that you can attract more people - possibly contact local user groups likely to be sympathetic
  • by kbahey (102895) on Wednesday June 14 2006, @09:52PM (#15536943) Homepage
    Actually, let us look at a parallel here.

    The internet started as dialup, and took too different paths in separate parts of the world.

    In North America, local calls are free, and dialing a local number for internet access was one reason why the net became so popular and successful, and why lots of innovation happens in the USA as far as the net is concerned.

    In most of the rest of the world, local phone calls are not free, and therefore the internet is metered. People using dialup have to be aware of the time they spend on the net, lest they run up the bill (think BBS's in another area code that you call long distance).

    So, did unlimited dialup access spur innovation? I think so. Would the same be true for wireless? You bet!

    Look at how cell phones are doing in North America vs. the world. The world has GSM where you are not tied to a provider you buy the handset from, and you do not pay for received calls. The contrary is true in North America.

    Greed is the barrier to innovation.
    • Just a quick FYI... local calls are not free in all parts of North America (or the USA for that matter). In VT, there are local per minute costs upto a cap of about $20. put this on top of the $30-40 normal phone bill (not including long distance) and you're talking $50-$60 + $20 for local internet access. It certainly isn't cheap.

      Thankfully dialup access is a little cheaper now, but phone lines certainly arent. I'm sure this is certainly helping VOIP + Cable (though only maybe 20% of the state can get cabl
    • If it's unstoppable, unbreakable, whatever, then their naming solution should be obvious (all the more so if they actually did it): United States Spaceship Oracle. Imagine the co-branding opportunities!
    • NASA should really change Opportunity's name the T-1000.

      So the only way to stop it is to drop it into a vat full of molten steel. Good to know -- it should be pretty safe on Mars!
    • There are phsyical limits with wired connectivity too.

      The point is, the limit should be a specific rate, and unlimited *usage*, as opposed to a per-bit-transferred scheme. People will always be willing to pay for faster connections, but most fear the possibility that some uncontrolled event or fraud will run their bill up to insane amounts - that isn't a factor with a limited rate - all that happens is it will just hit the rate limit and choke.