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Pearl Jam Releases Video Under Creative Commons
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minitrue writes "Pearl Jam released their first music video in quite a while under a Creative Commons license allowing anyone to "legally copy, distribute and share the clip" for noncommercial purposes. Creative Commons thinks this may be the first video produced by a major label ever to be CC-licensed. So although the file is only available as a free download via Google Video through May 24, fans can continue sharing it online themselves in perpetuity."
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Kudos to Pearl Jam (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Kudos to Pearl Jam -- DRM free downloads (Score:5, Informative)
(Last Journal: Tuesday November 06, @11:44PM)
Re:IT'S OFFICIAL (Score:5, Informative)
Considering Tool was at #1 that same week, I would say Pearl Jam is still quite relevant. Will they sell as many albums as quickly as they did with Ten or Vs.? Maybe not, but they have gone Platinum on every album they have released. IIRC.
This might sound stupid, but.... (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:This might sound stupid, but.... (Score:4, Interesting)
(http://www.last.fm/user/smackhero/)
If the artists actually cared about getting their music out, they wouldn't mind people sharing videos or even the albums. The reason why the record labels care is because they're too shortsighted and greedy. Most record execs just can't stand the notion of people enjoying the content for free. It doesn't matter that this creates more buzz, more fans, more sales in the long run--it's the principles. It's just like people who complain about hand-outs being given to the less fortunate (I mean, are you really jealous of people who get hand-outs because they actually need them?). They're the kind of people who worry more about welfare going to a few freeloaders than taking comfort in the fact that it also helps millions of single mothers and dispossessed families keep food on the table.
It's irrational stinginess that serves no purpose, but is just ingrained in prevailing industry attitudes. So most labels don't put out music videos for free because they want everyone to buy the DVD if they actually want to watch the music video. They don't see that a music video played on millions of people's computers has the same marketing value as one played on millions of television sets on MTV or VH1. There's really nothing wrong with selling music videos on DVDs, but it is in the best interest of the musicians and the label to also provide the content for free.
It has nothing to do with fear of people extracting the audio layer from the music videos. That's just ridiculous. What Pearl Jam is doing is definitely appreciated by a lot of fans, and it isn't being done by most mainstream musicians so I don't get why people are accusing them of just pulling a "publicity stunt". Just because it's in their best interest doesn't mean it's a publicity stunt. This is actually good for the fans as well, and it might encourage others to follow suit.
Sentiments like yours only hinder the adoption of these rational approaches to content distribution. I work for an indie record label, and I'm always trying to convince my boss that it makes sense to allow people to share music and to be more genrous with the content. But it really undermines these efforts when people like you react so cynically whenever a label starts thinking more progressively than others.
Why can't you simply accept that Pearl Jam is trying to do something nice for the fans?--which in turn also benefits the artist, which has always been the case. It's not good enough that they're derogating from conventions in a way that benefits the fans, but they must hurt themselves in the process for it to not be labelled as simply a "publicity stunt"?
I think people like you are a bit too jaded and don't really understand or appreciate what the music sharing movement is about. Artists and record labels don't have an obligation to take losses just so you can enjoy the music they produce, however, there are practices that are mutually beneficial. Just because the artists/labels stand to benefit from the content they produce doesn't mean that they're evil or something. So stop ragging on the good guys in the industry who are actually embracing free content and music sharing.
Harvey Danger (Score:4, Informative)
(http://offthegrid.1337hax0r.com/ | Last Journal: Wednesday October 18 2006, @12:56PM)
Re:Harvey Danger (Score:5, Funny)
(http://www.firehed.net/)
Won't somebody think of the lost sales? (Score:4, Funny)
well now (Score:2, Interesting)
Free Commercials? (Score:2)
(http://www.chozcunningham.com/)
Brilliant! (Score:5, Funny)
Great pre-sleep video (Score:4, Funny)
(Last Journal: Sunday August 20 2006, @09:16PM)
Thanks slashdot for giving me nightmares
Good old Pearl Jam eh? (Score:2)
(Last Journal: Sunday September 12 2004, @10:55PM)
Actual License? (Score:2)
(http://www.mrcopilot.com/ | Last Journal: Tuesday August 02 2005, @10:10AM)
by Attribution. You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor.
nc Noncommercial. You may not use this work for commercial purposes.
nd No Derivative Works. You may not alter, transform, or build upon this work.
* For any reuse or distribution, you must make clear to others the license terms of this work.
* Any of these conditions can be waived if you get permission from the copyright holder.
Your fair use and other rights are in no way affected by the above.
Excellent I can now reenact the entire video, if I do it faithfully. Thanks You Mr. Vedder.
No seriously, baby steps, right.
Ahhh!! My ears!! (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Ahhh!! My ears!! (Score:4, Insightful)
no MTV (Score:2)
(http://kyspeaks.com/)
Re:no MTV (Score:4, Informative)
That definitely would have made for quite a different video.
J
This is great and all... (Score:4, Funny)
(http://slashdot.org/~Infonaut/journal | Last Journal: Tuesday July 31, @02:22PM)
... but I don't think they took into account the fact that RMS doesn't like the Creative Commons [linuxp2p.com]. My guess is fans will avoid the video in droves for that reason alone.
lumping them together (Score:4, Insightful)
(http://www.theantix.org/ | Last Journal: Tuesday April 12 2005, @02:47PM)
Consider the analogous slashdot heading "Company Releases Program Under GPL" -- the GPL is a title that unlike CC has a specific meaning, if it's GPL you know what to expect whether you like that license or not. The problem with CC is really worse than the similarily vaguely defined label "open source" because some of the CC licenses are really quite restrictive.
I do understand what the people behind CC are trying to do, and I respect that. I just wish that they had put more effort into promoting the use of individual specific licenses instead of the CC 'brand'. GNU does this well, they have GPL, GFDL, LGPL as their own separate brand instead of just calling it a "GNU license" which doesn't convey the specificness those different concepts represent.
It may not be perfect, but it's a good move. (Score:3, Insightful)
(Last Journal: Thursday August 03 2006, @09:15PM)
This is a great move in my opinion. (Score:1)
(http://www.technobunga.com/)
only available until May 24th? (Score:2)
Video only avaliable till May 24th... (Score:1)
They sold their tickets by zip code (Score:2, Interesting)
(http://bariswheel.blogspot.com/)
Mirror (Score:3, Informative)
(http://www.student.gsu.edu/~zliu2/centrinia.html | Last Journal: Saturday March 13 2004, @11:26AM)
DRM (Score:3, Funny)
Hah. Some license. (Score:2)
You cannot derive the work, nor can you use it commercially. Bang go freedoms 0 1 and 2. The work is still copyrighted, like a photograph licensed online, our only freedom is to look at it.
'Redistribution' doesn't mean anything online. Redistribution of a mars bar or a patented camera would mean building the product yourself using the original design. With anything digital rather than physical redistribution can't exist. Everything is a copy, there is no 'master', copies are made whenever you view content on the web, as the same data is send over the internet protocol. There's no difference between 'view' and 'download', whether the data is saved to your home, your cache, or even not stored except in RAM. You are being 'given' the identical digital data. It's ridiculous to suppose that once you posess this data you cannot share it, and that the first server still controls the data because it perceives itself different. This is like writing a book, but not selling it and insisting everyone but come round your house to read the typeset.
Videos are of course avaliable to view for free a million places on the webs so certainly redistribution == distribution. Take a 30 meg quicktime video you can download. http://www.chrismilk.com/audioslave/ [chrismilk.com] Now if you send that file to your friend or if they download it from that same site, how can you distinguish?
The internet was creating to freely and openly share data, why are we trying to close it back up? If you want to hold your work forever, DO NOT UPLOAD IT. So Pearl Jam, this is nothing but an empty publicity stunt. And Creative Commons, if someone unticks all the boxes 'allow commerical use', 'allow deriatives', if you really have principles, then display a message, 'the license you have chosen is "enforced copyright" you IP-fascist'.
Good Old Pearl Jam, totally expected move, however (Score:2)
whelp, i'm out (Score:1)
Not remixable (Score:1)
(http://www.robotsrule.com/phpBB2/)
I usually call it quits after ten (Score:1)
Easy d/l here (Score:2)
(http://nymphs.org/)
http://vp.video.google.com/videodownload?version=
free until (Score:2)
(http://127.31.33.7/)
The license for this video is http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.5/ [creativecommons.org]
Free until? Is this DRMd? What good is creativecommons if there is DRM?
And how do I import this into video editing software? WTF is "GVI" format?
While it says Sony BMG.... (Score:1)
also check out first free creative commons porn... (Score:1, Interesting)
at digg.com
http://digg.com/movies/first_free_porno_released_
http://digg.com/movies/first_free_porno_released_
Props to PJ (Score:1, Funny)
Did anyone else see a robot? (Score:2)
Re:Publicity stunt (Score:1, Interesting)
It does makes sense. They're saying "we're going to distribute it ourselves up to 2006-05-24, let others distribute it after that, P2P, Torrent or otherwise."
If they start suing people after 2005-06-24, then it's a legal stunt to try and crush these types of licenses.
Re:Publicity stunt (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Publicity stunt (Score:5, Informative)
And forgive me, as I'm using a Mac, but I was able to open it in QuickTime, and I could easily edit it and export it to a different format.
Re:Publicity stunt (Score:2)
(http://www.mithral.com/~beberg/)
Google? The band? The label?
Since Google probably paid for the "exclusive" I'd say Google.
Re:Publicity stunt (Score:1, Troll)
Yea it's free, until May 24-th (they you gotta look it up on bittorents or youtube).
And yea enjoy it, in all its compress Flash video 320x240 uneditable low bitrate glory.
Gosh that's so pathetic. I'd rather watch MTV (even if the logo "takes half the screen" , my ass).
Re:Bettermen (Score:4, Funny)
(http://www.popularculturegaming.com/)
Re:Hmm (Score:3, Interesting)
(Last Journal: Thursday July 28 2005, @05:46PM)
1)The realize that they already have enough money and now are just trying to let people listen to some music they make.
2)The record companies gets the feeling that the band/artist/whatever is likely to do this in the future. That's when the career ends.
Oh, and another thing. Pearl Jam's career really isn't dead. They're currently on tour [pearljam.com]. It looks like they even have double bookings for some stadium sized venues. As in they sold out a stadium... twice. That's pretty good for a "dead" band that is getting very little radio support on the tour.
Re:they used to be scammers iirc (Score:1)
They also send out Christmas singles to members of the Ten Club (fan club). These are on vinyl as well.
Re:Hmm (Score:1)
(http://www.angelfire...epublican/index.blog | Last Journal: Thursday July 27 2006, @12:00AM)
LK
Re:Hmm (Score:4, Informative)
(Last Journal: Monday November 12, @04:14PM)
True, I have seen very few bands embrace free disitribution licenses, but I doubt most artists are even aware that these licenses exist. What I have seen is bands explicity stated that they don't mind their work being shared freely.
The first example that comes to mind is Wilco [wired.com]. Given, they're not young, but they never had much success on the charts until recently. After they produced an album [pitchforkmedia.com] that was deemed too 'experimental', they were dropped from their label.
Instead of giving up, they put an mp3 stream of the whole album on their site and openly embraced file sharing. The album started to get a lot of buzz. Soon enough an independent label agreed to release the record, despite the fact that "hundreds of thousands" of people had already downloaded it (at least according to singer Jeff Tweedy in the Wired interview).
The album was critically acclaimed and became their greatest commercial success to date, reaching #13 [wikipedia.org] on the Billboard charts. Their next album sold even better, reaching the top ten [wikipedia.org].
Another example - Sufjan Stevens [mtv.com], who actually is a "young rising star", recently said in an interview [pitchforkmedia.com]
Not everyone giving away their music is over the hill - and some of them are still making a living making music.
Re:Publicity stunt (Score:2)
(http://www.getogg.org/)
Re:Publicity stunt (Score:3, Informative)
Shit, AC, after I've read this extremely informative and useful post of yours I got a clue and now I live a better, more meaningful life.
Re:Bettermen (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://www.last.fm/user/smackhero/)
What is that supposed to mean?
They produced a music video, as musicians sometimes do.
They released it under a Creative Commons license, which is rare.
This allows people to do rare things with a mainstream artist's creative content, like download it/enjoy it/distribute it for free.
Most artists would have prohibited the above mentioned activities in their license.
Thus, what Pearl Jam has done is interesting news for most of us, and it would benefit fans if other artists followed Pearl Jam's lead.
So what is there for you to possibly complain about? That they haven't sold many CDs at your store? What does that have to do with anything?
Do you have a coherent point to make, or did you just want to post incoherent ramblings?
Re:Did Trent Reznor direct that thing? (Score:2)
Re:And they are on Sony's label too... (Score:1)
(http://www.openuniverse.org)
Re:Hmm (Score:2)
This isn't going against the RIAA (Score:1)
Wake me up when they offer their next album under CC licensing.