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Sony Rootkit may Lead to Regulation
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CowboyNeal
on Fri Feb 17, 2006 04:11 AM
from the enough-is-enough dept.
from the enough-is-enough dept.
An anonymous reader writes "Computerworld has a story about DHS officials meeting with Sony to read them the riot act, following the rootkit fiasco. From the story: 'A U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) official warned today that if software distributors continue to sell products with dangerous rootkit software, as Sony BMG Music Entertainment recently did, legislation or regulation could follow.'"
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WTF? (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://reallydodgy.org/ | Last Journal: Thursday January 05 2006, @03:54AM)
Why are people not in jail for this yet?
(yes, that was a rhetorical question).
smash.
Re:You haven't figured it out yet? (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://127.0.0.1/)
Re:You haven't figured it out yet? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:You haven't figured it out yet? (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://www.fredshome.org/)
Re:WTF? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:WTF? (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://reallydodgy.org/ | Last Journal: Thursday January 05 2006, @03:54AM)
I was merely trying to point out how "fucked up" the system is - we live in a world that allowed the two events described above to have the outcomes they did...
smash.
Re:WTF? (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://localhost/)
I agree it stinks, but I'm not exactly sure how we stop it short of a constitutional amendment, and if that amendment is too broadly worded, the cure could be worse than the disease.
Re:WTF? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:WTF? (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://kandra.servegame.org/)
Corporation: An organization created in order to generate individual profit without individual responsibility.
That is why no on is in jail, it goes against the very idea of corporations.
Security Flaws are Not the Issue (Score:4, Insightful)
The recent Sony experience (Score:5, Funny)
"I just bought a DVD with rootkit software on it."
"You've been Sony-ed", or,
"That's the Sony experience!"
Re:The recent Sony experience (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://clintonhawk.net/)
Re:The recent Sony experience (Score:5, Funny)
Re:The recent Sony experience (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:The recent Sony experience (Score:4, Funny)
So.. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:So.. (Score:5, Funny)
(Last Journal: Wednesday January 18 2006, @05:05AM)
And what about Linux rootkits? Will Linux rootkits be supported by the DHS? Or will they just be banned altogether? Surely the DHS can't be stuffed writing a Linux rootkit as well as a Windows rootkit.
Even scarier... what if Linux rootkits weren't regulated at all? Cyberterrorists could go on a rampage of linux rooting, and the government wouldn't be able to stop them, or more importantly, tax them.
Hmm... that's an idea, the DHS could implement a rootkit tax, to fund their own rootkit development, and better protect our fellow God-fearing American citizens from the cyberterrorists of the future.
The War on Terror is ending. The War on Rootkits is only just beginning...
Threatening Legislation (Score:4, Insightful)
They are not even being told they will get punished if they do it again,
It seems to say, if you do it again, only then will make it illegal so you can't do it a third time.
(Gee, I'll have to try that one next time I get busted by the cops - its only my first offence, officer, you shouldn't lock me up until I've done it at least 3 times)
Re:Threatening Legislation (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://reallydodgy.org/ | Last Journal: Thursday January 05 2006, @03:54AM)
smash.
Regulation? (Score:4, Insightful)
(http://history-guy.blogspot.com/)
DHS??? (Score:1)
(http://vimrc-dissection.blogspot.com/ | Last Journal: Saturday March 24 2007, @07:58AM)
So the time has finally come... (Score:2, Funny)
(Last Journal: Monday February 13 2006, @07:11PM)
Mr. & Mrs. Smith DVD (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Mr. & Mrs. Smith DVD (Score:4, Informative)
(http://www.nodomain.org/)
Apple haven't got a fix out yet but I guess they will soon (WTF is system software doing loading libraries from the home directory anyway? There's a *reason* why
From the virus summary:
"Leap.A installs a bundle to '~/InputManagers/apphook' that hooks certain iChat functions. When any of the user's buddies change their status, the worm initiates a file transfer and sends a copy of ' 'latestpics.tgz'. The file transfer is not visible to the user as the worm hides the transfer status information."
"The worm enumerates all applications on the computer that were used during the last month. Leap.A replaces the main executable of those applications with itself and saves the original file to a resource fork with the same filename. When the application is opened the worm activates first, then it runs the original application from the resource fork."
My EFF Action letter worked! (Score:3, Funny)
I told my senator to tell the RIAA and Sony to go f##k themselves... I guess he listened.
threatening? (Score:3, Insightful)
not malicious? (Score:4, Insightful)
(http://terminate.sourceforge.net/)
From TFA:
I guess that depends on what you mean by malicious. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who distributes trojans is either malicious, or mentally insane — on the same level as the man who thinks he's a poached egg.
Re:not malicious? (Score:4, Insightful)
eh? (Score:4, Insightful)
Mod Parent Up. (Score:5, Interesting)
Laws have already been broken and all we're seeing is warnings implying this may be made illegal in the future.
No malicious intent? (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://slashdot.org/)
Would someone please define malicious? I think it WAS malicious.
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The American Heritage dictionary:
malicious (m-lsh's) pronunciation
adj.
Having the nature of or resulting from malice; deliberately harmful; spiteful.
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Thompson-Gale Legal Encyclopedia:
Malicious
Involving malice; characterized by wicked or mischievous motives or intentions.
An act done maliciously is one that is wrongful and performed willfully or intentionally, and without legal justification.
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I'd say that given Sony's generally agressive posture with regards to personal/individual fair use and copyright infringement, I think they could easily be characterized using words like "angry" and "vengeful." And regardless of the emotional component, it was certainly wrongful, willfull, intentional and without legal justification.
It seems like a case of (Score:2, Interesting)
Since when did the Executive branch make laws? (Score:4, Insightful)
(http://slashdot.org/)
wrong act.... (Score:3, Insightful)
Should it not read RICO act?
And yet, the cynic in me... (Score:4, Interesting)
(Last Journal: Monday May 31 2004, @07:30AM)
...thinks that DHS would love for this to happen again.
I could almost see them thinking, . o O (...and the best way to do it would be to stringently regulate consumers' computers, so that we can watch for intrusions of this sort in future and prepare for them. Oh, do it again Sony? Ohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohsnausagesohplease!)
Could someone explain? (Score:5, Insightful)
Read: Juvenile dick-waving without commercial interest -> 2 years prison.
A large corporation spreading a rootkit with their product to their paying customer with the intent to cripple their customer's software performance (not being able to use it as intended, by manufacturer or user) that also has the capability of spying on their behaviour (allegedly they didn't use that function, but
Read: Commercial malvolent infiltration of customer's computers -> Nada.
The world sure is changing. When I was still in school, adding "commercial" to a crime sure upped your sentence by some magnitude. Nowadays it seems to be your "get out of jail" card if you commit a crime with financial interest.
Al Capone simply died too early. He'd love these times.
Angelina Jolie only? (Score:1)
(http://ketsugi.com/)
Talk about a misleading submitted post (Score:3, Informative)
(http://www.google.org/)
In there is a small paragraph mentioning that DHS and a talk with Sony that what they did "was not a useful thing", which becomes the main thing.
The thing thing that should of been focused on was the message from DHS that companies should not defeat the security measures that people have in place on thier computers.
Could someone sue StarForce spreaders please? (Score:4, Interesting)
(http://www.ki.se/ | Last Journal: Tuesday August 28, @07:06AM)
According to Wikipedia [wikipedia.org], Ubi Soft, Digital Jesters and Codemasters routinely use StarForce on new games. Forget about consoles, THIS is what might kill PC gaming permanently.
What is a rootkit? (Score:5, Informative)
Important distinction (Score:5, Interesting)
The important thing to keep in mind is that, while SONY may have a software division, the product sold wasn't even a software product at all, and no disclosure of a software product was discussed in any terms of sale, etc. The whole software angle was completely surrepetitious. It's not just "software distributors" that need policing here. When it boils down to it, this SONY division had no business "engineering" software into their product; they had little grasp of the ethics or the technical implications of what they were doing... or at least that's what they tell us now. For all we know, they were fully aware and just did it anyway thinking plausible deniability was all they would need when it came to light. If indeed they thought so, they would seem to have been prescient - nothing has happeded because of it. I for one am a bit surprised at that.
Sony should be prosecuted (Score:4, Funny)
forget rootkits... (Score:5, Funny)
(http://www.tuneforge.com/)
Linkage to blueray software (Score:2)
(http://telebody.com | Last Journal: Tuesday July 30 2002, @07:28AM)
What they really want... (Score:2)
(Last Journal: Tuesday June 26, @08:41AM)
Megacorp meets with secret police (Score:5, Insightful)
Translation (Score:1)
Surely this isn't needed? (Score:1, Insightful)
Grab the Pitchforks and Torches! (Score:1)
(http://www.lds-chat.com/)
If the rootkit that was installed take me a few hours to uninstal and/or fix my system, why can't I claim damages? (like any other business hacked into!) My time is worth something.
If everyone who had the rootkit installed, had to call Geeksquad to restore their computer to working order, AND shell out folding green dollars for their service, that is REAL monetary damages.
Sony BMG settles (Score:5, Informative)
(http://www.unity08.com/)
It's your chance to stick it to the man.
Morals? Ethics? (Score:3, Insightful)
(http://micpp.blogspot.com/)
Dollar Power? (Score:2)
(http://www.the-forgotten.org/)
If people just stop buying their crap, they will change how they do business or go out of business.
WHAT?! (Score:2)
(http://www.thesnarky.com/)
How lax can they get?! When you hurt millions of people, you get punished. So, if Sony puts out another rootkit, will they be at all worried about repercussions? Hell no! They just got away with it.
Just in the nick of time too! (Score:1)
(http://www.clevershark.com/)
So.... (Score:1, Offtopic)
(http://jonr.light.is/ | Last Journal: Saturday April 06 2002, @12:22AM)
Sony's Business Model (Score:1)
(http://www.cheesymovienight.com/)
1. Declining Music Sales... Blame Piracy
2. Release Trojan Rootkit to Fight Piracy... (damn kids)
3. Consumers boycott all Sony products
4. Further Declining Music Sales and Now Declining Sales in All Product Lines
5. Blame Piracy
6. Call Government Buddies and Release Series of Laws/Rootkits Opressing Consumers
Damn corporate nation we live in today, and the Bush administration is doing anything but helping.
Who do we root for? (No pun intended. Really.) (Score:2)
Disclaimer The comments above should in no way be considered a comparison between the characters in that movie and the parties mentioned in the article. Any similarities are purely coincidental and the reference was made solely to illustrate the relative difficulty of determining a "favorite" in the contest.
In other words: Freddie and Jason, please don't be offended!