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Another School Exposes Private Information
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CowboyNeal
on Thu Sep 15, 2005 08:42 PM
from the open-door-admissions dept.
from the open-door-admissions dept.
DutchSter writes "In the wake of other schools announcing the theft of hardware containing sensitive student information, Miami University, of Oxford, Ohio, has announced that a file containing the name, Social Security number, the grade point average for the Fall 2002 semester, cumulative grade point average, and other related academic information, such as credit hours attempted that semester, for all 21,000 students who attended the Fall 2002 term has been available on a web server for the last three years. The discovery was made this week and the university is taking steps to deal with the fall-out sure to come."
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It's Everywhere (Score:5, Funny)
Re:It's Everywhere (Score:5, Informative)
Private information (Score:5, Insightful)
It seems to me that the only useful thing is the names/SSN combination.
Unless you could blackmail some poorly-achieving students by threatening to tell their parents their real marks?
Included demographics (Score:5, Funny)
The information released also included demographics. I've obtained the information and masked off the personally identifying information so I could show the sort of demographic information made available:
... Gender Dress ...
... Male, Khaki shorts, white T-shirt, ball cap
... Female, Khaki shorts, white T-shirt, ball cap with pony tail pulled through
... Male, Khaki shorts, white T-shirt, ball cap
... Female, Khaki shorts, white T-shirt, ball cap with pony tail pulled through
... Male, Khaki shorts, white T-shirt, ball cap
... Male, Khaki shorts, white T-shirt, ball cap
... Female, Khaki shorts, white T-shirt, ball cap with pony tail pulled through
... Female, Khaki shorts, white T-shirt, ball cap with pony tail pulled through
... Male, Khaki shorts, white T-shirt, ball cap
... Female, Khaki shorts, white T-shirt, ball cap with pony tail pulled through
(if you've been there, you'll understand)
Miami University, of Oxford, Ohio (Score:4, Funny)
Oh, it's in Oxford... must be in England.
Bzzzzzt. BUT NO! It's in Ohio!
It must have taken a long time to come up with that combination of naming and placement.
Re:Miami University, of Oxford, Ohio (Score:5, Informative)
Explanation (Score:5, Informative)
The city in Florida sprung up at the end of the 1800s, and adopted the name because they thought it meant something vaguely pleasant regarding water.
So if anybody's ignorant, it's actually the clowns in Florida.
is this a fark post? (Score:4, Funny)
Met a girl from Miami that went to Oxford, and didn't like the song "Ohio." Seems a little less obscure, too. Yet, this school has 21,000 students? I mean...that's more than the real Oxford...the one that's not in Ohio, but has students from Miami...
now that they've had their data exposed... (Score:5, Interesting)
that's what i would expect at a minimum. on top of other punishment for letting it happen in the first place.
this only reinforces the notion i have that there is absolutely no privacy. once your data is in someone elses hands (and all your data does in fact belong to them) you can kiss your privacy goodbye.
there is no recourse whatsoever. you cannot even sue them or ask for damages.
your personal data is obviously worth something to sell to third party "warehouses" but when they expose your data to the whole world, at that point it ceases to be worth anything...
Just say 'No' to giving schools the SSN (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Just say 'No' to giving schools the SSN (Score:5, Insightful)
That fits with my experience (Score:4, Insightful)
SchoolMAX SchoolHAX (Score:4, Informative)
Get used to it (Score:4, Insightful)
probably happens all the time (Score:5, Interesting)
I imagine this happens a lot, especially at research institutions whose scientists need to be able to receive large amounts of data from collaborators without having to set up accounts for them.
Free identity theft monitoring (Score:5, Funny)
I'm glad I was in college in the 1980s (Score:4, Funny)
Back then we carried around sheets of paper with our information. Some used a redundancy method known as "carbon copy" - in which the user would write once and the data would be recorded in many places.
Though I had to physically walk miles to track down professors without watches, the data was always securely stored in the back pocket of my jeans or stuffed into my backpack.
Best of all, we relied upon social engineering security and things like locked wooden file cabinets. The security team was staffed by should-have-already-retired women who hated all people and wore too-tight pastel colored polyester blouses and shirts. But nothing got past them.
Re:Who are they hiring? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Who are they hiring? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Who are they hiring? (Score:5, Informative)
Apparantly there's this list of all the students academic info that's sent out to all the Deans each semester. One of the Deans gave it to another professor for whatever reason and that professor accidently puts it on a public drive and forgets about it for 3 years.
Nice. Real nice.
Re:Who are they hiring? (Score:5, Insightful)
It takes a lot of work to make strong, accountable policies and carefully define simple, but narrow ways of accessing information (i.e. not just dumping the student records excel file in the share folder). For example, everyone on campus has network access which is most often directly linked to online access. If one person screws up and misuses their data access priveleges by opening up information over the network, it is very hard to tell unless you have accountability in place. And how many places do security reviews?
When it becomes part of people's jobs to protect information, it will become a responsibilty. Right now, blaming one or two people is rarely a good solution. It's like someone who blames an outsourced medical transcripts worker in Pakistan for leaking information. Sure, it is there fault but the problem is much larger than one low-paid worker. Executive or peon, security is a group responsibility in information-rich, networked environments.
Re:Who are they hiring? (Score:5, Interesting)
I could be wrong here. If someone knows a way to scan an entire enterprise, when you don't have admin access to a number of the systems, and you don't have a list of all of the programs which are in use (so you don't know all the proprietary data formats), I would love to hear about your solution. Oh, you probably also need to be able to search documents and databases for encrypted versions, even though you don't have the keys... Management at the university I work for asked how we could scan the enterprise to find all sensitve data after we had a similar incident.
The person who posted the data on the website is clearly the one who is responsible for that data. That would be the retired faculty member. An admin is responsible for keeping the web server running. Was the information available on the Internet? If so, the admin was doing a their job well.
There are some fundamental questions universities need to be asking themselves:
Why doesn't the government step in in these situations? Clearly this is a FERPA violation on a huge scale. The individual who put the information on the website ultimately should be held accountable. If nothing else, action should be taken against the university. If the university gets more than a slap on the wrist, you can bet that the next person to do something dumb like this will be held accountable by the university.
I probably shouldn't ask for that, as they'll probably decide it's the sys admin's fault...
Re:My SSN is stolen - I can't party anymore! (Score:5, Informative)
Peace
P.S.
yay, my first post!!
Re:TFA from a MU Grad who Just got Notice (Score:5, Informative)
"On Monday, September 12, 2005, Miami University became aware that a grade report from the Fall 2002 semester had been unwittingly placed by a now-retired faculty member into a file that was accessible via the Internet.
Note the 'retired faculty member'. Not a student or a hacker.
This seems like a common problem, how does one protect again appending sensitive information from a protected document into an ordinary text or non-sensitive file? Is there a technology out there that can mark the data so it can not be copied into another file even though it is accessible to some. Apparently the 'now retired faculty member' had access to the file. Probably used cut and paste to imbed it into a file he/she could access from home/laptop etc. We had lots of problems like this at government locations I worked at
I understand your anger but this does not seem to be a malicious act, it appears to be an honest screw up and is not like the stupidity of Citibank sending their files via un-encrypted tapes by UPS.
The school seems to be handling this OK.
Re:Another Security issue (Score:4, Funny)