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PDF Tracking On the Way
Posted by
timothy
on Sat Apr 02, 2005 05:05 PM
from the drown-baby-in-the-bathwater dept.
from the drown-baby-in-the-bathwater dept.
(el)Capitan.Nick writes "PDFzone reports that the company Remote Approach has launched a service to track the movement of PDF documents with its tool Map-Bot. The purpose of this service is to allow PDF publishers the ability to measure their audience, as web publishers can already. Though personal information is not gathered from machines, IP addresses are. PDFs can require users to be connected to the Internet in order to read them, and every person you email the PDF to is subject to the service. As PDFzone's opinion article states, while 'the chances of running into a Remote Approach PDF right now -- and in the near future -- are pretty remote ... the potential for the technology to tarnish PDF's image [of security] is staggering.'"
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Advertisements! (Score:5, Insightful)
I can see it now.. Google introduces AdWords for PDFs...
Evil, explained (Score:4, Insightful)
A: Simple, web log analysers aren't capable of tracking redistributions of the same document. If you copy a web page, say about theories in free-market macroeconomics, and e-mail the copy to a friend, say in China, no one will ever know your friend has read it. But if you copy one of those and it's read by your friend there, then certainly your friend will have a red flag (pun intended) on him.
HTH
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Simple... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Simple... (Score:5, Insightful)
You'd have trouble convincing more than about 2% of users to refuse.
>Publishers won't get any data from it
Sure they will. You will be the one getting no data because you're holding out when no one else cares.
It's a wonderful idea, but it simply won't happen without government intervention...and who wants that?
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Sure, that works (Score:5, Insightful)
Just like I can shop elsewhere if I don't like being captured on a store's video surveillance camera. Except that they ALL have cameras. If there's no true alternative, you're screwed. Am I going to forego opening that online manual that I desperately need to troubleshoot a problem? I don't think so. A better solution is for some enterprising hackers to find a way to break this technology.
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Re:Sure, that works (Score:5, Funny)
> being captured on a store's video surveillance
> camera.
Yes. You can. Contrary to common belief, your choices are not limited to Walmart and Kmart.
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But how will you know? (Score:4, Interesting)
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Re:Simple... (Score:5, Insightful)
Better than that, refuse to use pdf viewers that implement this "feature". (Does anyone know which those are? Without knowing, I would assume Adobe acrobat reader probably does and xpdf probably does not. Does anyone have more specific/accurate information?)
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As much as it pains me to say this... (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:As much as it pains me to say this... (Score:5, Interesting)
On the evil side, getting on the conspiration mood, it would also allow the FBI or the gov to diffund pseudo-dissident bait documents and then check and track anyone who reads it, anywhere he reads it.
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Okay.... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Okay.... (Score:5, Informative)
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Disable PDF Javascript (Score:5, Informative)
Adobe Acrobat Reader starting supporting embedded Javascript with version 7.0, although you can disable it in the preferences dialog. Apparently it bugs you every time you start the program to re-enable it, though.
Bottom line: Stick with free software.
Discussed on LWN concerning Adobe Acrobat 7 (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Discussed on LWN concerning Adobe Acrobat 7 (Score:5, Informative)
There is a bug (in my opinion) in Acrobat Reader 7 when you disable JavaScript that causes this warning to appear when exiting the program:
This document contains JavaScripts. Do you want to enable JavaScripts from now on? This document may not behave correctly if they're disabled.
This happens even if you do not have a document loaded, since Adobe Reader tries to run some internal JavaScripts when it exits. If JavaScript is disabled, this warning comes up. I've created patches [k-lug.org] that prevent this from happening on both Linux and Windows. They may also prevent the warning from coming up with documents that actually contain JavaScript.
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Rather pointless (Score:5, Informative)
No, they can't, PDF is nothing but a data format. Some broken PDF viewers (especially those from Adobe) may do this, but since PDF is an open format, there will always be some other viewers that don't promote spying on their users. Basically, this is the same nonsense as the "no printing" option.
Re:Rather pointless (Score:4, Informative)
However, if for example the document is encrypted and they key is on a server which the PDF points to (and the server logs all IP addresses connecting to it to retrieve the key) then it will work at least for the first time you open it (unless of course we create another server or even p2p network with the keys on it for ebooks which the PDF viewer visits instead).
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They should make another file extension (Score:5, Insightful)
IP harvesting (Score:4, Interesting)
Also, I definitely do not want to risk exposing my static IP to anyone, especially in a way that involves new technology that may be quite exploitable, just by clicking on a PDF link on google. I'm sorry but c'mon, that's just too much. Nevertheless, assuming the technology is viable, there'll be a demand that will outweigh objection for this new feature and Adobe will do it and make more money.
Re:IP harvesting (Score:4, Informative)
Wait a minute... clicking on ANY link on Google exposes your static IP to the content provider anyway.
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Slippery slope argument (Score:4, Insightful)
FORCE me to go online??? I just hope that technical papers never use this tool.
Denizens of the PDF world, however, take note. We enjoy--and sell--the differences between PDF, e-mail and HTML, and a lot of those differences are in the realm of security...
Remote Approach, however, is the beginning of a movement that could chip away at PDF's sterling rep, one document at a time...
Since the Map-Bot can chase a PDF through e-mail forwarding, it's more powerful data mining than that associated with Web pages, where the vital information gets thrown out when the user's cache is emptied.
One would think they would come up with a better name than Map-BOT!!!
Pretty damning, if I may say so.
Refuse to read PDF's, period. (Score:4, Insightful)
A little technical info (Score:5, Informative)
There's a POST to remoteapproach.com (you could block all traffic going to remoteapproach.com, or just repoint remoteapproach.com to 127.0.0.1 or something in your hosts file.
The POST message looks like:
POST
The thing that gets me is that the content of the request also contains this:
1 0 obj]/F(/C/Documents and Settings/Administrator/Desktop/MBRemote Approach Manual.pdf)>>>>
As you can see, it contains the full system path to the file that I opened. This seems like a big privacy issue. After all, Acrobat didn't ASK if it could open the URL.
The
Some technology.
Re:PDF (Score:5, Informative)
-jcr
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Re:Thankfully (Score:4, Informative)
No one else paid attention to it. Since earlier versions of the spec didn't have the requirement, there's no way they can enforce it. Other than that stupid requirement, the spec has an open and free license.
Besides, only Adobe products implement javascript in PDFs to start with, so Adobe brought this on themselves. No other reader will allow this to happen.
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