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Color Laser Printers Tracking Everything You Print
Posted by
timothy
on Mon Nov 22, 2004 07:26 PM
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It's not new, but it's getting noticed: Jordan writes "Yahoo! News is reporting that several printer manufacturers are now and have been for some time embedding (nearly) invisible serial numbers in every document you print with their color laser printers, allowing law enforcement to track any such document back to the printer which printed it. The technology, ostensibly created to track down money counterfeiters, was created by Xerox about 20 years ago. A Xerox researcher says that the number-embedding chip lies 'way in the machine, right near the laser' and that 'standard mischief won't get you around it.'"
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Countermeasures? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Countermeasures? (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Countermeasures? (Score:5, Insightful)
Two more words: Pay cash
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Re:Countermeasures? (Score:5, Funny)
"Hello Kinko's Employee. I'd like you to print 500 copies of this here One-hundred dollar bill. You can just keep one of them to cover the cost."
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Re:Countermeasures? (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:Countermeasures? (Score:5, Interesting)
Thinking about it, adding in a speckled yellow pattern as part of your printing algorithm would work - it would just take a little knowledge of what they print.
Does anyone know if the pattern gets printed even on white space? Printing a "blank" page should reveal the pattern and allow a suitable overlay that would stuff up the recognition algorithms.
Michael
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Re:Countermeasures? (Score:5, Funny)
*= if you don't Own an ion cannon yet, you can build one care of these DIY directions [slashdot.org] (a cyclotron is the key component to an ion cannon...)
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Re:Countermeasures? (Score:5, Interesting)
This technology has been around a lot more than 20 years.
In Soviet Romania [google.com], a sample page from every typewriter had to be registered with the police, so that any samizdat produced could be quickly traced back to the typewriter's owner. Use your imagination as to what happened to the owner, or Google for it.
In Soviet Russia [geocities.com], all photocopiers were registered with the KGB and kept in secure rooms, to which physical access was restricted.
The West is probably still playing catch-up.
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I was right! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:I was right! (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:I was right! (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:I was right! (Score:5, Insightful)
Well, they can still ask the daisey wheel vendor, but they will get an "I don't know" answer.
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Just another reason... (Score:5, Interesting)
I mean, seriously. How else would they know who bought it and how to get a name from that serial number? I guess maybe if the store kept your credit card info on file or something and associated it with the serial number, but how often would that happen?
Lesson learned, if you want to print hundreds of forged checks or counterfeit bills, pay for the printer in cash!
Re:Just another reason... (Score:5, Funny)
Lesson learned, if you want to print hundreds of forged checks or counterfeit bills, pay for the printer in cash!
But not cash that you printed yourself on a printer that wasn't paid for with cash you didn't print yourself. Or something.
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Re:Just another reason... (Score:5, Insightful)
I mean, seriously. How else would they know who bought it and how to get a name from that serial number? I guess maybe if the store kept your credit card info on file or something and associated it with the serial number, but how often would that happen?
Lesson learned, if you want to print hundreds of forged checks or counterfeit bills, pay for the printer in cash!
Actually, if you're going to do anything illegal, cash is king. Just print some up and, well,
Anyway, police officer friend of mine once who said that if you're going to do something illegal, do it big, do it once and don't tell anybody.
That "once" part of it is key, you could print up a bunch of cash one afternoon, enough to pay for the next printer (with cash, of course), then dispose of the printer.
Greed will get you in the end.
Alan.
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CSI (Score:5, Funny)
In the old Soviet Union (Score:5, Interesting)
It seems they were ahead of the US by 30+ years. Another sign of a dying empire.
odd (Score:5, Funny)
It was 1984 twenty years ago.
We can turn this to our advantage... (Score:5, Funny)
The Geek revolution has begun.
They never learn. . . (Score:5, Interesting)
So use substandard mischief. :p
I'm quite serious really. Unless the serial number is tiled, just print a full border and keep whatever stuff you want to cut out away from the serial.
If it is tiled, you have a number of options. You could script a program to 'split' the image so that you print unmarked bands in multiple runthroughs which eventually add up to a full image. You could offset some unknown amount and then surround the serial number with other sequences to disguise the actual serial (would take some knowledge of how serials are assigned to do a good diguise). Both of those would require a little hardware modification. But if you're printing $100 bills. . . .
Anyway, those are just some ideas off the top of my head. The point is that if people know what they're up against, they can find a workaround. Ideally, these kinds of tricks would be kept secret. In the case, the point is trip up ignorant cons who don't account for something they don't realize exists.
Oh well. This will still nail the 16 year old delingquents who decide to pull a fast one on the clerk at their local grocery store.
Back to the old methods (Score:5, Funny)
Old News (Score:5, Insightful)
This is old news.
There have been news stories about serial numbers being embedded in printing for years. The first I read of it, at least 7 or 8 years ago was the same yellow microprint from color inkjet printers, which was mandated by the U.S. Gov't, to prevent counterfit bills from being printed.
All I've ever done myself is scan in bills at the highest resolution, to show people the microprint (note the double lines around the portrait, one is really text).
It actually doesn't stop anything, people still print them. I remember back in high school there was a story in the local paper about some kids getting dragged away by the Secret Service for photocopying $1 bills and putting them in soda machines. They only had to do one side, and it didn't care about the color, so easy drinks. Our school had a better 'hack'. If you took a water pistol and sprayed water into the bill slot, it'd short out the electronics of it, and you could push buttons all day to get free drinks. I saw it done a few times.
But hey, just assume that anything you print is being tracked. Chances are pretty good that nothing you print is going to be all that interesting.
Extremely paranoid? Pay cash for your printer, and get someone else to actually purchase it. Or don't leave home, because 'they' may be watching. Ha!
I hate to break your party (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Those rat b--- (Score:5, Funny)
What makes you think we still have such archaic things as privacy laws anymore? Dont you know that if you have a private life the terrorists win?
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Re:Those rat b--- (Score:5, Funny)
Did you know that every time you touch something, you leave an invisible mark that's unique to you and can be used to track where you've been?
It's a privacy nightmare.
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