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EFF Reviews 5 Years Under The DMCA
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from the an-icy-wind dept.
briaydemir writes "The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) has a new report, Unintended Consequences:
Five Years under the DMCA, detailing how the DMCA has stiffled competition, innovation, scientific research, and fair use. The original news release is here, and the report is also available as a PDF. Check it out if you want a good summary of all the DMCA cases over the past five years."
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BrianWCarver writes "In the seven years since Congress enacted the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), examples of the law's impact on legitimate consumers, scientists, and competitors continue to mount. A new report released today from the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), 'Unintended Consequences: Seven Years Under the DMCA,' (pdf) collects reports of the misuses of the DMCA -- chilling free expression and scientific research, jeopardizing fair use, impeding competition and innovation, and interfering with other laws on the books. The report updates a previous version issued by EFF in 2003, which Slashdot also covered."
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Time to go. (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://www.nin10doh.com/)
Re:Time to go. (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://corejet.blogspot.com/)
This is also the reason that gun manufacturers can't be held responsible for crimes commited with guns. If the intended use is hunting or self protection, then they cannot be held responsible for any other use. However, if there is reasonable evidence to suggest that the guns have a forseealbe intended use to commit crimes, the manufacturer can be held responsible. This is why the more powerful assault rifles and machine guns are illegal to be sold to civilians.
The same law should apply to digital technology. A hacking tool like a port scanner should be legal as it can have an intended use to check your own network for security holes. However, a trojan horse program is obviously intended for illegal remote access to a computer, and should be illegal.
Re:Time to go. (Score:5, Informative)
This is why the more powerful assault rifles and machine guns are illegal to be sold to civilians.
Untrue on its face.
- Machine guns are legal to own, just expensive to license.
- All rifles are assault rifles. Only a few specific rifles were banned.
- You can buy a
.50BMG rifle if you want to.
Traditionally, a device is legal if there are significant legal uses.Re:Time to go. (Score:4, Insightful)
(Last Journal: Tuesday September 23 2003, @03:15PM)
I can foresee killing somebody by cramming 20 twinkies down their throat. Should we hold the manufacturer reponsible?
Really, I was almost tempted to not bother sending this because it's so obvious. Quite frankly there are too many people using that weak argument to make lots of money out of frivolous lawsuits. That's basically the reasoning being used to sue games developers, i.e GTA3.
Re:Time to go. (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://www.angelfire...epublican/index.blog | Last Journal: Thursday July 27 2006, @12:00AM)
A civillian can purchase a fully automatic firearm provided he undergoes an FBI background check, gets fingerprinted, and pays the $250 per year license fee. It is perfectly legal (in the US) for any law abiding civillian to own a machine gun. It's been this way since 1934.
Even more to the point, the VAST majority of the firearms used to commit crimes are 6 shot revolvers. They were churned out like hoola hoops for about 60 years and are still plentiful and cheap on the black market. Banning firearms is no more about controlling crime than the DMCA is about stopping malicious copyright infringement.
A hacking tool like a port scanner should be legal as it can have an intended use to check your own network for security holes. However, a trojan horse program is obviously intended for illegal remote access to a computer, and should be illegal.
No program in and of itself should be illegal. It shuold only be illegal if one uses them in a manner that is, well illegal. You should be able to create any virus, trojan or system hijacker you wish, as soon as you use them on someone else's system is when you cross the line.
LK
Time to revise the DMCA (Score:4, Insightful)
(Last Journal: Thursday February 23 2006, @09:53PM)
1) Remove the current DMCA and amend it such that only specific uses of media are prohibited. Allow for the use of back-engineering tools with HARSH punishments for people who knowingly use them to break copyrighted material with intent to distribute. This leaves the burden of proof with a prosecutors instead of the "guilty-til-proven- innocent" tactics of the RIAA et. al.
2) Make a specific statement for "loser pays": anyone suing under using this legislation who loses the case pays for the legal costs of both parties. Settlements don't count, and this will outright favor the bigger players, but in the American climate of "legal attrition" as a business strategy I see no other effective means of trying to relieve this aspect of the DMCA problem.
3) Allow publications on computer security to be done freely and thoroughly if tied to legitimate academic or corporate entities. Hold computer manufacturers liable if one of their components has a security flaw that causes eggregious commercial/monetary damage but which could have been fixed by repair of one of these published flaws.
4) Ensure that American laws apply only to American citizens with the express wording that products purchased in other parts of the world which belong to the consumer are theirs to do with as they please. A clause allowing rightful action to take whatever steps necessary to use that product would be nice (mod chips et. al)
Pointing fingers makes us feel good, but unless we propose alternatives and compromises, are we really doing anything but venting? Does anyone else have potential solutions/thoughts on how to resolve this issue?
Re:Time to revise the DMCA (Score:4, Insightful)
(http://www.highprogrammer.com/alan/ | Last Journal: Saturday April 29 2006, @04:33PM)
What loopholes?
It is illegal to distribute copies of works protected by copyright without the copyright holder's permission.
Nice and simple. It doesn't matter if you're distributing photocopies on the street corner and sharing them over a peer-to-peer client. It's still illegal. No loopholes.
But it's already illegal to distribute works protected by copyright. What will adding a another rule do to help? This is just hyper-criminalization, an amazingly bad idea.
Perhaps we need a law with additional penalties for disabling a home security system. Sure, it's already illegal to break into my home, but I don't feel safe enough. Surely a criminal who has decided to break and enter will be thwarted when he discovers that disabling my alarm system is illegal.
Lots of important security work is being done by loosely associated individuals. What's magic about working for an academic or corporate entity that makes the research more valid?
Yes, there are potential solutions. Repeal the law, it does way more harm than good. The benefits are miniscule and unworthy of protection. We already protect the rights of copyright holders.
Laws not thought out... (Score:5, Insightful)
Another problem is that Congress makes some of these laws so vague as to leave too much interpretation up to the judges who try cases under these laws. Unfortunately, organizations such as the EFF don't have the clout or the resources that the corps do.
I have to stop now before I go on a rant ;-)
Re:Laws not thought out... (Score:5, Insightful)
What I'd like to know... (Score:5, Insightful)
(Last Journal: Thursday February 15 2007, @09:19AM)
Excessive punishments (Score:5, Insightful)
For example, the DMCA makes it a felony to circumvent a copy protection device. And, similarly, the NET act makes it a felony to share copyrighted materials via a service like Kazaa with a possible 5 year prison term.
Regardless of whether the things out lawed by legislation like this really should be out lawed or not, the punishments really need to be adjusted to fit the crime. Neither getting your dvd player to play dvd's from europe, nor sharing the latest Eminem song should even carry the possiblity of landing you several months little less several years in the slammer. Okay, the Eminem case is iffy, but otherwise...
Deja Vu Anyone? (Score:5, Informative)
(Last Journal: Saturday December 27 2003, @01:15AM)
They do make several good points, and I would go into more specifics but I really don't have time to read the new version (I read the older editions a year ago when I was investigating impacts of the DMCA for a research paper). An actual evaluation of the entire DMCA document is difficult especially due to the nature of Copyright law, Fair Use, et al, but the EFF does a good job, albeit a mildly biased one.
On a related note for those of you that have 30 seconds: support the EFF's newest petition -> "Take a Stand Against the Madness; Stop the RIAA!" [eff.org] Its a useful free alternative to being even more useful and donating to the cause [eff.org].
Steinway left Germany and came to America (Score:5, Insightful)
Steinway said, "Fuck this shit" (Well, the German equivilent actually), and came to America. In the process making America the center of a cultural technology that had previously been a European monopoly.
America is making such inovative freedom illegal. It will reap the consecquences, just as did Europe.
The DMCA was written entirely to protect existing vested interests. When you do so you automatically restrict (even if that wasn't your intent) development of other interests that spur economic growth.
The end result is stagnation with all power and wealth gradually making its way into a few hands.
Welcome to the economic algae pond, Brother.
KFG
You'd think better of the EFF (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://rtfm.insomnia.org/~qg/ | Last Journal: Wednesday November 16 2005, @07:11AM)
The DMCA has nothing to do with maritime law. It was not enacted to protect cargo ships or the spanish armarda. "Pirate" is a propaganda term used by copyright owners to imply that unauthorized copying is the equivilent of murder and theft on the high seas. The message is clear: only a vicious enemy of the people would do unauthorized copying. To a lesser degree the term "protection" is also a propaganda term to describe what copyright owners do in restricting our freedom. These terms are an important weapon of people who support the DMCA and other stifling laws as they encourage informers to rat people out to the non-official police forces the copyright owners fund.
All in all, you'd think the EFF would be too smart to play their game.
Re:You'd think better of the EFF (Score:4, Interesting)
(http://slashdot.org/)
The first recorded use of the word 'pirate' in regards to people who made copies of books without permission dates back to 1668. When there were the other kind of pirates as well. And decades before copyright laws came into being. Take a look in your convenient pocket-sized unabridged OED.
It _is_ a propaganda term -- if someone were trying to achieve the same effect today, they'd call infringers 'terrorists.' But it's such an ancient one that I don't think that there's much point in bitching about it now.
Alternate interpretations of DMCA (Score:3, Redundant)
(Last Journal: Thursday May 24 2007, @01:08AM)
- Crowbars should be declared circumvention devices and be banned, since they can be used to pry open a door which is protecting copyrighted material
- Airport x-ray devices can be used to see through solid materials and discover copyrighted materials within a briefcase, for example. Thus, x-ray devices circumvent a protection mechanism.
Any others?Lets look at the positive side of DMCA (Score:4, Funny)
(http://www.infiltrated.net/ | Last Journal: Monday February 16 2004, @01:07AM)
Create a boy band called DMCA then plit them up giving them all losing solo careers
Create a rap group RunDMC is taken but JogDMCA is available
Take the paper it was written on and donate it to public toilets
Team with R. Kelly and continue going after minors and morons
Give it to Blair or Cheney (forged of course) so they could start a war with China
Give it to Bush and tell him it's this year's economic stimulus package (he'll believe it)
Give it to Ashcroft so he could make a DMCA color coded warning system no one listens to
See there is more to the DMCA than you thought. And all along everyone was protesting... pffffft
The points EFF is trying to make... (Score:3, Insightful)
(http://www.geekalize.com/richardseese | Last Journal: Tuesday February 20 2007, @03:16PM)
The law written by marketing idiots (Score:5, Interesting)
(Last Journal: Tuesday September 14 2004, @08:18PM)
Digital - Now whats the point of calling it digital? its just a bandwagon jumping buzzword, well back in the late 90's it was all the rage digital this digital that always with the digital it just means fucking numbers! so by calling it digital they've restricted it to only digital systems. Macrovision on VHS is not digital, therefore it doesn't count, whoops. Now as much as i like that little mistake it doesn't mean its not stupid.
Millennium - WHY!??!?! WHY!??! WTF! WHY!? it wasn't even the millennium when the law was passed! What does it mean? What possible relevance does the millennium of 2000 have to do with copy-right law and circumnavigation of digital devices? Is it just another bandwagon buzzword?? At least digital was slightly relevant!
Copy-right Act - This isn't a copy-right act, its an anti-reverse engineering act, its an anti-industrial espionage act, its an anti-freedom-of-speech-if-it-might-hurt-a-company act. A copy-right act would use the phrase "You may not copy copy-righted work that you dont own" the only thing this says your not allowed to copy is circumnavigation software from other people.
This is the sort of naming i would expect by marketing people. Marketing people have no place in politics and legislation.
Remember, this was created by *Clinton*, mmmkay? (Score:2, Interesting)
So how can I use the DMCA? (Score:2, Interesting)
Can I use it against adware companies that take data from my computer without my permission?
Can I use it against Microsoft when their software allows a virus to copy the contents of my address book around the internet?
civil disobedience (Score:3, Insightful)
(Last Journal: Thursday May 03 2007, @11:34AM)
The DCMA, with it's idea that I can purchase a piece of equipment and then not do it as I wish, or that I cannot make copies of books or music for personal use, is just immoral. It is immoral because it allows contracts in which the end user has to agree to terms that are unknown until the end user either cannot return the product of inadvertently breaks the contract. It is immoral because it prevents the necessary innovation that encourages the free market. It is immoral because it circumvents due process.
And we cannot allow immoral acts to continue. The best defense is peaceful civil disobedience. For instance, don't buy music from RIAA labels. If they have no income, they have no money to fight legal battles. The same goes for the MPAA, game vendors, and anyone else that uses the DMCA. It won't be possible to totally shut them out, but we can at least make an effort.
I believe a lot of what goes on P2P networks is copyright infringement, but what choice do we have. The music and movies are sold in packages that violates our traditional fair use rights under the law. If i can't make a copy of the CD for my car, and the manufacturer won't give me another CD when the original get stolen or damaged, then why should I buy the CD. The manufacturer obviously has no respect for me as a customer, so I might as well return the disrespect the manufacturer and copy the music off the net.
The same goes for movies. If movies are increasingly downloaded from the net, it won't be because people don't want to buy movies. It will be because the movies we can buy are illegally packaged to prevent out fair use rights. Why should I buy a movie that is crippled when I can download a copy that honors my fair use rights. The manufacturer may hid behind a license, but it makes no difference. A contract that removes legal rights, especially when the rights are not itemized, should not be honored.
Do you really think Congress cares? (Score:5, Interesting)
The irony is that all it would take is a couple of these clowns to be thrown out on their ever-widening asses because they put out a: "for sale" sign and the rest wuld be so scared shit about the gravy train pulling into the station they'd likely capitulate. But we know that just isn't going to happen. People have become so apathetic that they don't even bother to vote. Even Arnold who would be governor of CA doesn't!
I guess we do get the government we deserve though. Do nothing, and get nothing in return.
All the cases? (Score:5, Informative)
(http://www.paulmischler.com/)
Umm... EFF has skipped over all the $cientology cases,
What unintended consequences? (Score:2)
When you're on top of the system, almost any change is seen as dangerous.
We shouldnt remove the DMCA... (Score:2)
Basicly, the 5 things that will fix the DMCA are:
1.removal of the "people can get info on who is using ISP accounts without going through the courts by alleging copyright infringment" clause
2.a change in the anti-circumvention provisions to make it clearer. (so it cant be used for crap, as we have seen in the past, particularly it should better cover things like DeCSS that have substantial non-infringing use and clearly spell out how it should be applied in these cases)
3.clearer wording of the "exemption for interoperability" part of the law to enable people to know just how far they can go (for example, does it cover the XBOX linux team who are trying to make linux interoperate with the XBOX? Does it cover the bnetd team who are trying to make bnetd interoperate with blizzard games? Does it cover the mplayer team who are trying to make their media player interoperate with thier legally purchased DVDs?
4.add an exemption like this:
The provisions of this law do not apply to someone who is creating a 3rd party clone of a physical object where that object is a consumable and gets used up in the course of its use and therefore needs replacement. (with a sutable defintion of what consitutes a "consumable")
and 5.generally re-write the law so there its a lot less open to interpretation
it is time (Score:1)
This is what its *supposed* to do! (Score:2)
(http://mysite.verizon.net/tkrotchko/)
And so this will amount to nothing. I think the DMCA will hit home if/when people finally get their new HDTV plasma screen, their new HDTV VCR, and they press "RECORD" and it doesn't work.
Then they'll care.
But for now, to the public, this is all about "stopping those hackers who started that virus a few months ago"
DMCA (Score:3, Insightful)
It might all be worth it . . . (Score:1)
IMHO (and I suspect I'm in the minority on this board), the Internet would be a far worse place without the DMCA. Without its protection, no ISP would allow individuals to post material - they simply could not take on the infringement risks. This ability, in turn, is what makes the Internet a unique medium.
Photocopiers (Score:2)
Write some sort of copyrighted work on a computer. Since copying files on the computer is easy, use the following method as a copyright protection: make a hardcopy. That is, your copyright protection method is to print out a copy, and even put some copyright notice on the printed copy. Then, sue manufacturers of scanners because they create and distribute "tools" that can be used to circumvent your copyright protection method, i.e., they can make copies.
Sure, there's lots of problems with this lawsuit. There's lots of precendence in law on use of photocopiers and scanners, but I'd bet not under the DMCA. I'm not sure what the DMCA requires for "digital", but the argument here is that the work being copied is the digital file you originally wrote. The hard copy is just the "encrypted" version, and using a scanner allows someone to convert if from the encrypted version back into a non-encrypted digital version. I original thought of including photocopiers, but that would be just making copies of the encrypted files, not decrypting them, which as far as I know is ok.
True, hardcopying is not a very good copy protection scheme, but as far as I know the "quality" of the system is not considered. For example, a Microsoft case mentioned in the parent story includes "clickable end-user licenses", which only uses a few words as the "protection" method. Or the CD protection method that can be circumvented using a marker. At a minimum, hardcopies are more difficult to copy than digital files directly, so it does at least have some merit as a protection scheme.
In essense, I think many arguments used in existing DMCA cases could be used against scanners for the above scenario. And anybody could do this and sue the manufactures.
I'm not suggesting this is a good thing, but perhaps it is a useful method for protesting the DMCA by making it very public and getting the big manufacturers working to help get it changed ASAP.
Pissed off at the RIAA (Score:2)
(Last Journal: Wednesday October 22 2003, @03:09AM)
DMCA got me. (Score:1)
Re:I wanted to read the pdf... (Score:1)
(http://www.aleph0.com/~chjones/ | Last Journal: Thursday June 02 2005, @06:02PM)
Re:I disagree with the EFF. (Score:1)
(http://www.geekalize.com/richardseese | Last Journal: Tuesday February 20 2007, @03:16PM)
Re:Welcome ! (Score:1)