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NCR Claims Palm Infringes As "Personal Terminal"

Posted by timothy on Thu Mar 15, 2001 04:11 PM
from the sue-you-sue-anybody-I-don't-know dept.

Davis King writes: "NCR is claiming that two patents it received in 1987, for a 'portable personal terminal for use in a system for handling transactions' cover the palm pilot; it's suing Palm and Handspring for patent infringement. Yet another company trying to get ahead with lawyers instead of with engineers." According to the article, "NCR asked for a jury trial on its demands that Palm and Handspring be blocked from making any more of the products, and that NCR be awarded compensatory and actual damages." What about my patent for a "medium-sized length of rope for use in jumping"?

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Re:nice business model, NCR by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:30AM
Re:Skipping WindowsCE by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:32AM
Re:BOYCOTT NCR! by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:55AM
Re:Commercial success by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Friday March 16 2001, @05:56AM
Re:Err... by Anonymous Coward (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:33AM
M$? by Chris Deckard (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:16AM
BOYCOTT NCR! (Score:5)

by mosch (204) on Thursday March 15 2001, @11:19AM (#360843) Homepage

I hereby call for a full boycott of NCR!
Oh wait... I forgot, they don't make anything anymore...
MY BAD!

-- "Don't trolls get tired?"
Err... by Wakko Warner (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:17AM
Re:Err... by Wakko Warner (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:40PM
Re:Uh oh! by volsung (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:24AM
Re:Uh oh! by volsung (Score:2) Friday March 16 2001, @04:13AM
Re:Err... by rodgerd (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:38AM
Re:BOYCOTT NCR! by Tim Doran (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:18PM
Re:Note the request for a jury trial... by Geoff (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:39AM
Dear God! by mholve (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:22AM
Star Wars is too late. by hawk (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:18PM
Re:Patent links by hawk (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:20PM
Re:Star Wars is too late. by hawk (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:31PM
Re:Patent links by hawk (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @03:13PM
Lawyer: no, that's wrong (Score:3)

by hawk (1151) <hawk@eyry.org> on Thursday March 15 2001, @12:28PM (#360856) Journal

I am a lawyer, but this is not legal advice. If you need legal advice, ocntact an attornye licensed in your jurisdiction.

Federal rules require a jury to be demanded at every stage, or it is waived. This doesn't mean that they want a jury, just that they aren't ready to be precluded from the possibility.

hawk, esq.
Re:The Brits have the right idea. by gaj (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:35PM
Re:The Brits have the right idea. by gaj (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @04:49PM
Re:What about Microsoft? by gaj (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @04:57PM
Re:What about Microsoft? by gaj (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:44AM
What about Microsoft? (Score:3)

by Steve Luzynski (3615) on Thursday March 15 2001, @11:15AM (#360861)

If they were seriously after patent infringers, what about Microsoft and their gang of WinCE/PocketPC manufacturers?

Sounds like a moribund company trying to steal some free PR and possibly some settlement money, while staying away from antagonizing fish that are big enough to bite back...
Re:Patent links by Brainchild (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @05:08PM
Re:What about Psion by armb (Score:1) Friday March 16 2001, @12:09AM
Re:NCR Patents by reg (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:39PM
Re:NCR Patents by Doctor Memory (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @01:34PM
Re:BOYCOTT NCR! by KlomDark (Score:2) Friday March 16 2001, @03:44AM
did they have a team of monkeys working on this? by garcia (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:31AM
What transactions? by sacherjj (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:16AM
Re:Those damned evil pointy haired managers by sacherjj (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:33AM
Re:Err... by sacherjj (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:44AM
Prior Art: Osborne 1, KayPro II, Samsungs etc by leonbrooks (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @01:39PM
Re:Before you go flaming NCR... by Angst Badger (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @07:54PM
Re:Before you go flaming NCR... by rpk (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:04PM
Re:What about ... by RayChuang (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @04:04PM
The Brits have the right idea. by crovira (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:35AM
Look up the legal definition in advertising. by crovira (Score:2) Friday March 16 2001, @10:16AM
Just 5 minutes with these guys, please by SurfsUp (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:22AM
I was programming handhelds in 1981 by SurfsUp (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:24AM
Re:Before you go flaming NCR... by Omnifarious (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @06:52PM
Re:BOYCOTT NCR! by GPB (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @01:43PM
Re:What transactions? by Bearpaw (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:20PM
Re:What about Microsoft? by um... Lucas (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @03:09PM
Re:What about Microsoft? by um... Lucas (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @03:10PM
Re:Another old-school company, can't keep up by Aggrazel (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:48AM
Re:NCR Patents by Silver A (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:50PM
Re:Patent links by Robotech_Master (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @06:21PM
Re:Patent links by Robotech_Master (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @06:28PM
Re:Watch it... by freq (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:42PM
Re:Prior art by TWR (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @03:41PM
You forget the half dosen other pentop makers by Felinoid (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @03:31PM
Re:Before you go flaming NCR... by Felinoid (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @03:39PM
Re:What about Microsoft? by ivan256 (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:23AM
Re:What about Microsoft? by ivan256 (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:19PM
Re:Patent links by ivan256 (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:40PM
What About... by Quarters (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:29AM
Here is the patent by ermita2 (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:25AM
Re:BOYCOTT NCR! by angelo (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:50PM
Re:Note the request for a jury trial... by Moofie (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:50AM
Re:M$? by Moofie (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:56AM
Re:UNISYS revisited? by Smallest (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:39AM
Re:NCR Patents by SEWilco (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:35AM
Re:Patent links (Score:5)

by Rupert (28001) on Thursday March 15 2001, @11:52AM (#360902) Homepage Journal

The first one appears not to apply. The general claims are very broad, and would cover pretty much every portable device, as has been said elsewhere in this topic. The description, however, clearly describes a credit-card-sized device that plugs into the handheld for the purposes of user authentication, i.e. the handheld is not carried around with you like a palmtop, it is more like the PINpads at a checkout, only IR-connected rather than whatever goofy serial port they're using this week.

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Re:Why Don't They Go After... by jonathanclark (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @01:39PM
Re:Before you try it... by roady (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @03:31PM
Re:Star Wars is too late. by plsander (Score:1) Friday March 16 2001, @04:14AM
Re:BOYCOTT NCR! by Dragonmaster Lou (Score:1) Friday March 16 2001, @05:10AM
Re:And they wait 'till now to bring this up... by stoney27 (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:46AM
Skipping WindowsCE by Blindman (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:22AM
Re:Before you try it... by MadAhab (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @01:01PM
Re:Why not read the patents (links included)? by Will Dyson (Score:1) Friday March 16 2001, @03:12AM
Re:Uh oh! by nspeare (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @05:06PM
Re:did they have a team of monkeys working on this by ncaustin (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @01:02PM
Rope by omarius (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:33AM
Before you try it... by Enoch Root (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:16AM
Re:Prior art by romco (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:49AM
Re:What about ... Intermec, Symbol, Telxon by goodie (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @07:18PM
Re:Um, how about Tandy Model 100 portable? by operagost (Score:1) Friday March 16 2001, @11:46AM
Links to Patents? by Felix Rodriguez (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:36AM
Re:BOYCOTT NCR! by Cuthalion (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @01:12PM
Re:What about ... by Lord_Breetai (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @02:18PM
Actually they do by cdrudge (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @05:55PM
Re:Err... (Score:3)

by iceT (68610) on Thursday March 15 2001, @11:25AM (#360922)

and why they don't go after WinCE devices (isn't there pocket-access? How much more 'handheld and transaction' can you GET?!?!?!), or my web-enabled mobile phone, or, or, or....
Re:BOYCOTT NCR! by Cramer (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @02:43PM
Re:Hmmm... by Cramer (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @02:52PM
Re:Not just cellphones by Cramer (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @02:56PM
Re:NCR Patents by Cramer (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @02:08PM
Re:Err... by Cramer (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @02:30PM
Re:BOYCOTT NCR! by EyesOfNostradamus (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @01:08PM
Re:What about ... (Score:3)

by gonar (78767) <sparkalicious@ve ... net minus distro> on Thursday March 15 2001, @11:25AM (#360929) Homepage

Apple?
Casio?
Franklin?
NEC?
IBM?
Sony?
HP?
TRG?
Phillips?
Compaq?
whoever it is who is making the YOPY?
Re:ATMs over ATM by billstewart (Score:2) Friday March 16 2001, @11:02AM
Re:Working Prototypes on Business Models by billstewart (Score:2) Friday March 16 2001, @11:08AM
Are Laptop manufacturers next? by rrognlie (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:29AM
UNISYS revisited? by jbuilder (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:17AM
Re:NCR Patents by FyreFiend (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @01:30PM
Before you go flaming NCR... (Score:5)

by adubey (82183) on Thursday March 15 2001, @11:29AM (#360935)

Don't forget that NCR invented the idea of a palmtop "pen" computer in the late eighties and early ninties.

NCR, and later Apple, threw a lot of money at pen computing before Palm got it right. Did Palm learn from NCR's mistakes, or would they have gotten everything right on the first try?
Re:BOYCOTT NCR! by cowwie (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @04:53PM
Uh oh! by bink (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:17AM
Re:What About... by inburito (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:43AM
Re:Prior art by rakslice (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @02:28PM
Re:Etcha Sketch by rakslice (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @02:31PM
Re:Err... by rakslice (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @02:33PM
Re:Maybe I'll patent the notepad by rakslice (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @02:41PM
Re: Huh? by rakslice (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @02:44PM
Re:Why Don't They Go After... by Dirtside (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:36PM
Button Button by MountainLogic (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:02PM
Not just cellphones by eth1 (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:23AM
March on DC! by Tablizer (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @04:48PM
Re:Why not read the patents (links included)? by Steeltoe (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @10:57PM
Re:That IS a good business model. by Steeltoe (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:02PM
Re:Why Don't They Go After... by Fjord (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:24PM
Re:Before you try it... by kreyg (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:25PM
Re:Commercial success by Ser\/o (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @01:53PM
Re:Patent links by dwhitman (Score:1) Friday March 16 2001, @04:39AM
Legal Blackmail? by Stephen Samuel (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @03:50PM
Re:Why Don't They Go After... by whovian (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:56AM
Re:Patent links by Jbrecken (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @01:47PM
NCR has a patent on wireless technology? (Score:5)

by Lucretius (110272) on Thursday March 15 2001, @11:22AM (#360957)

'portable personal terminal for use in a system for handling transactions'

I think that the entire case will come down to this statement (of course... I am a master of the obvious). But I think it will be shot down very simply because it is way too vague. If you look at this, they have patented not only PDA's, but also laptop computers (they are portable as well) and pretty much any device that is capable of handling a transaction and isn't tied down physically for some reason or another. (for that matter, a normal old PC could be considered that as you can technically port it around)

On a further note, if NCR wins this little legal battle, they will be in a good strategic position to start collecting on any use of wireless technology. Well, not all wireless technology, but pretty much everything that deals with small, portable devices that connect to a central system.

You know, look at is this way. NCR can gain nothing from this patent anymore, and they may have some spare cash sitting around. What do they have to lose by starting this lawsuit? Nothing really besides lawyers fees and bad PR.... and what do they have to gain? Well, they have the possibility of gaining a prior patent on one of the fastest growing sectors in technology. This could be viewed almost completely as a strategic move on their part... really crappy and pathetic, but strategic...
Re:BOYCOTT NCR! by Humba (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @06:15PM
Those damned evil pointy haired managers by ruebarb (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:18AM
Re:Why Don't They Go After... by EzInKy (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:38PM
Re:What about Microsoft? by jejones (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:16PM
Re:What about Microsoft? by halliburton (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:08PM
No transactions for me by sPaKr (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:18AM
Re:NCR has a patent on wireless technology? by butocabra (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:49AM
...what? WHAT? If this is the case then by moogla (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:27AM
Oops by moogla (Score:1) Friday March 16 2001, @05:41AM
Re:Prior art by MrGrendel (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @01:18PM
Hmmm... (Score:3)

by MikeTheYak (123496) on Thursday March 15 2001, @11:19AM (#360968)

The article is light on details, but wouldn't cell phones be covered by this patent as well?
Note the request for a jury trial... by ClayJar (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:31AM
Re:Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy! by pallex (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:27PM
Re:Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy! by pallex (Score:1) Monday March 19 2001, @09:18AM
Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy! by pallex (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:23PM
Prior art (Score:3)

by SpanishInquisition (127269) on Thursday March 15 2001, @11:17AM (#360973) Homepage Journal

portable personal terminal for use in a system for handling transactions

It's called a checkbook

Ask BountyQuest to send me $10K

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Re:What about ... by CRiS_W (Score:1) Friday March 16 2001, @11:57AM
Re:Rope patent... by fraggleyid (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @03:34PM
Maybe I'll patent the notepad by GSpot (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:16AM
Re:Patent links by theancient1 (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @03:23PM
Hallarious by SuperDuG (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:17AM
Specific Design Details? by No Such Agency (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:30AM
Why not read the patents (links included)? by morn (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:46PM
Re:Etcha Sketch by DerFeuervogel (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:38AM
Re:What about ... by FreeQ (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @01:52PM
Re:NCR has a patent on wireless technology? by zi11a (Score:1) Friday March 16 2001, @04:55AM
Re:NCR Patents by ennuiner (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @07:46PM
Button, button, who's got the button by kfg (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @01:00PM
Too much money by JoshuaDFranklin (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:23AM
Re:nice business model, NCR by MaxwellStreet (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:08PM
Re:Before you go flaming NCR... by gilroy (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @03:31PM
Re:Rope patent... by big_cat79 (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:34AM
Re:Um, how about Tandy Model 100 portable? by MR.Gates (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @04:31PM
Re:Why not read the patents (links included)? by Brand X (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @03:50PM
Uh, no. by pantherace (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:44AM
Re:BOYCOTT NCR! by cactopus (Score:1) Friday March 16 2001, @05:30AM
Re:What About... by SquadBoy (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:37AM
Re:Star Wars is too late. by SquadBoy (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:23PM
Re:Star Wars is too late. by SquadBoy (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:40PM
Re:Ooey gooey rich and chewy inside... by SquadBoy (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @01:23PM
Re:Patent links by SquadBoy (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:02PM
Re:Patent links by SquadBoy (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:29PM
Re:Maybe I'll patent the notepad by dolbywan_kenobi (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @03:57PM
Did it in 82 by snarfer (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:31AM
Re:What about Microsoft? by EvlPenguin (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:44AM
Re:What about Microsoft? by chipperdog (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:38AM
Re:Before you go flaming NCR... (Score:3)

by wishus (174405) on Thursday March 15 2001, @01:57PM (#361004) Journal

Actually, if you read the patents in question, they are for a credit-card sized financial transaction monitor.
You can read the patents here [delphion.com] and here [delphion.com].
While the patents do cover the devices talking to one another and to other devices, the patent is obviously not for a PDA or PIM.
Now if Palm goes on with this e-wallet thing, there might be some question, but right now this lawsuit is a lot of hot air.
wishus
(Patent URLs courtesy of PDABuzz [pdabuzz.com]).
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Re:Patent links by sydb (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:31PM
Re:Patent links - HEY WAIT A MINUTE!!!! by RobertAG (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:55PM
Re:NCR has a patent on wireless technology? by Nilatir (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:02PM
What about Psion by PyRoNeRd (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @10:14PM
Re:Patent links by Archangel Michael (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:45AM
Re:Patent links by Erasmus Darwin (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:08PM
MY PATENT by aardvarko (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:14AM
Re:I don't get it... by jdunlevy (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:40AM
Re:And they wait 'till now to bring this up... by RedWizzard (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @01:27PM
Re:Button Button by RedWizzard (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @01:49PM
Re:Actually they do by RedWizzard (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @08:57PM
Re:BOYCOTT NCR! by bdhall1313 (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @06:58PM
Re:Why not read the patents (links included)? by MSHNR (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @02:55PM
Re:Patent links by Vuarnet (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @05:11PM
Re:Prior art by LuckyLuke58 (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @01:54PM
Re:Prior art by LuckyLuke58 (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @03:10PM
Re:Patent links by skoda (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:58AM
And they wait 'till now to bring this up... (Score:4)

by ScratchDot (212666) on Thursday March 15 2001, @11:18AM (#361022)

They (NCR) didn't give a crap about their patent until they realized they could possibly grift Handspring and Palm. I can just see the meeting that inspired this lawsuit (it probably involved some suit jotting a note on his PalmIII and saying "hey, wait a second guys!" NCR's really pushing it here.
Delphion links by RedLaggedTeut (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:02PM
Re:BOYCOTT NCR! by theglassishalf (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:32AM
Re:Patent links by ackthpt (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @01:11PM
Re:Patent links by ackthpt (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:47AM
Re:Before you go flaming NCR... by ackthpt (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:52AM
Re:Patent links by ackthpt (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:24PM
Im afraid... by nitehawk214 (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @01:54PM
Re:What about Microsoft? by Krow10 (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:28AM
Re:UNISYS revisited? by Fatal0E (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:23AM
Re:Why Don't They Go After... by Fatal0E (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:08PM
Why Don't They Go After... by Fatal0E (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:33AM
Re:Why Don't They Go After... by Fatal0E (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @03:29PM
Jury Selection... by Xibby (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:33AM
Re:Serious Prior Art (maybe) by eris_crow (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:59PM
Re:Before you try it... by jlenn0n (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:18AM
Whatever Happened To Getting Ahead... by CodingFiend (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:19AM
And In Other News by CodingFiend (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:21AM
Re:Commercial success by grammar fascist (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @07:41PM
nice business model, NCR by siliconghetto (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:22AM
Rope patent... by Tin Weasil (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:28AM
I don't get it... by leviramsey (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:22AM
Commercial success (Score:5)

by truthsearch (249536) on Thursday March 15 2001, @11:28AM (#361044) Homepage Journal

Of course they only care about the companies that have had "tremendous commercial success." It's not like they raised this lawsuit years ago when Palm made its first product. Wait for success, then sue... now that's a good business model.
Re:Hallarious by bahtama (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:22AM
Patent links (Score:5)

by sparcv9 (253182) on Thursday March 15 2001, @11:26AM (#361046)
Since the article does not provide details on the patents, here are links to both of them:
- 4,634,845 [164.195.100.11] Portable personal terminal for use in a system for handling transactions
- 4,689,478 [164.195.100.11] System for handling transactions including a portable personal terminal
Etcha Sketch (Score:3)

by rynix (253252) on Thursday March 15 2001, @11:17AM (#361047) Homepage

They should sue the creators of Etcha Sketch as well !
Re:UNISYS revisited? by Petrophile (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:02PM
Re:Patent links by KenRH (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:31PM
Re:What about Microsoft? by drdjr (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @03:36PM
Patent Impending by deran9ed (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:28AM
Re:Why not read the patents (links included)? by markmoss (Score:1) Friday March 16 2001, @06:26AM
Re:Why not read the patents (links included)? by markmoss (Score:1) Friday March 16 2001, @07:53AM
Re:UNISYS revisited? by ilovecheese (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @01:06PM
Re:MY PATENT prior work by onepoint (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:54AM
Re:The Brits have the right idea. by Bobo the Space Chimp (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:53AM
Re:Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy! by Bobo the Space Chimp (Score:1) Monday March 19 2001, @06:14AM
Re:MY PATENT by Bobo the Space Chimp (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:37AM
Ooey gooey rich and chewy inside... (Score:3)

by blair1q (305137) on Thursday March 15 2001, @11:36AM (#361059) Journal

...tender flaky golden cakey out-side...

wrap the inside in the outside what you get? darn tootin!

it's the FUCKING...

...APPLE...

NEWTOOOOOOOOOOON!

(Someone tell NCR they were beaten to it by a guy in a fig-suit.)

--Blair
Re:Before you try it... by Rogerborg (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:19PM
Handling transactions. by AX.25 (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:36AM
Patent the pre-existing... by RoninAdmin (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:55PM
Great logic there hotshot by Breakfast Pants (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @01:56PM
That IS a good business model. by Breakfast Pants (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @02:10PM
Sure you could.. moron by Breakfast Pants (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @02:15PM
Re:And they wait 'till now to bring this up... by janpod66 (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @05:38PM
Now you sue them.. by Diplomat73 (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:36AM
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by Diplomat73 (323901) on Thursday March 15 2001, @11:17AM (#361068) Journal

From the article: In papers filed on Wednesday in U.S. District Court in Delaware, NCR said, ``Palm and Handspring knew about the NCR patents, (but) chose not to seek licenses from NCR.'' The technology allows retail and consumer users access to and the ability to manage ``substantial'' amounts of information. The lawsuit cited two products, the Palm Pilot and Handspring Visor (news - web sites), as allegedly infringing devices that have had ''tremendous commercial success.''
if Palm And Handspring stop,.... by asop (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:25AM
Re:BOYCOTT NCR! by Zeio (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:30PM
Re:BOYCOTT NCR! by Zeio (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @03:38PM
Another old-school company, can't keep up by nate1138 (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:20AM
Re:Before you try it... by TrollFeeder (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:19AM
Re:Why Don't They Go After... by code-olympus-code (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @12:04PM
Re:NCR Patents by Chiana (Score:2) Thursday March 15 2001, @11:55AM
Re:NCR Patents by brianw42 (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @01:20PM
Re:What about Microsoft? by jtshaw (Score:1) Thursday March 15 2001, @08:05PM

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