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Charter Hires Net Neutrality Activist To Make Policy 70

An anonymous reader writes: The Federal Communications Commission has been at loggerheads with many ISPs lately, after the agency pushed through net neutrality rules that have now gone into effect. The defeat of Comcast's attempted acquisition of Time Warner Cable was hailed by many net neutrality activists as a victory, but then came the news that Charter was looking to buy TWC instead — which brought the worries back. But now Charter has taken the unusual step of hiring one of those activists to help develop its policy: Marvin Ammori. He says, "Charter hired me—which, to be honest, took some humility on its part since I have helped lead public campaigns against cable companies like Charter—to advise it in crafting its commitment to network neutrality. After our negotiation, I can say Charter is offering the strongest network neutrality commitments ever offered—in any merger or, to my knowledge, in any nation. In fact, in the end, I personally wrote the commitments." Put briefly, Charter agreed to abide by the interconnection mandates and prohibition of paid prioritization — regardless of the outcome of pending litigation from the ISPs fighting it — for a minimum of three years. The company has also promised no data caps and no usage-based billing.
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Charter Hires Net Neutrality Activist To Make Policy

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  • by future assassin ( 639396 ) on Friday June 26, 2015 @08:11PM (#49999517)

    if they are the first out of the gate they will get the most customers if they actually follow through with their changes. They really have nothing to lose and everything to gain by giving the customer the features that are requested the most.

    • by jd2112 ( 1535857 )

      if they are the first out of the gate they will get the most customers if they actually follow through with their changes. They really have nothing to lose and everything to gain by giving the customer the features that are requested the most.

      If these guys really wanted more customers they wouldn't have quoted me a price of nearly $3000 to run cable less than 1 block to my house. (which would potentially get up to 5 of my neighbors as customers as well.)

      • well lets see maybe if you could get all 5 to also commit (and maybe the next furthest N folks) then they might want to deal with you.

        • by jd2112 ( 1535857 )
          Actually they told me that if I could get one neighbor to sign up they would waive the installation fees, but at that point I was sufficiently pissed off at them for not being willing to run cable 1 block.
          • by GrandCow ( 229565 ) on Saturday June 27, 2015 @02:02AM (#50000773)

            So they gave you a legitimate compromise of finding a *single* other person interested to make their groundbreaking worth it to them in case you cancelled your contract at the end and leaving them in the red... and you said no?

            There's a person who is wrong here... but I don't think it's the person you think it is.

            • by jd2112 ( 1535857 )
              I really don't get along with my neighbors well enough to try to sell them on switching to cable. Also (more importantly) the main reason I called Charter in the first place was my wife wanted to cut cable/internet expenses and Charter was more expensive than our current satellite and DSL provider.
          • by fnj ( 64210 )

            You really blew it. You might be kicking yourself for a LONG time.

      • by Krojack ( 575051 )

        Keep fighting with them. You will win.

        They wanted to charge my parents to run to a pole half way up their driveway, about 500ft. Cable that was there at one time but got ripped down by a passing truck and never restored. I got on the phone with them and they agreed to run the cable at no cost.

        You should tell them to run the damn cable and get minimum of 1 new customer, don't run it and have 0 chance of ever getting new customers.

        On a side note, Charter net speeds, pings and overall quality for my have been

      • Go phone up Shaw and see how much they want. $3000 is a bargain.

    • 50000000 ftw?

    • It's simple indeed. Commitment to net neutrality for only three years is worthless. That guy should be ashamed.
      • Its not just three years, Its three years regardless of the outcome of the ISP lawsuit over the FCC's move. That means if the lawsuit gets the rules tossed out next month, they are still going to give it a go for the three years. If the lawsuit fails, they should already be there and positioned to be compliant.

  • Alternately ... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by gstoddart ( 321705 ) on Friday June 26, 2015 @08:20PM (#49999555) Homepage

    But now Charter has taken the unusual step of hiring one of those activists to help develop its policy

    Alternate "tinfoil hat" explanation:

    Once he's in house, sufficiently "re-educated" and compensated, and once the lawmakers have been paid off properly, then he will become a lobbyist to tell us in newspeak that net neutrality is slavery, and that corporations should be able to block competitors and promote their own services as innovation.

    I hope this guy is honest and sticks to his guns. But my experience in the world suggests a much darker outcome.

    I keep putting more layers, and the world keeps showing me I'm not paranoid enough.

    • Once he's in house, sufficiently "re-educated" and compensated

      It wouldn't be the first time. Isn't one of the founders of Greenpeace now shilling for oil companies or something?

      • by Mashiki ( 184564 )

        It wouldn't be the first time. Isn't one of the founders of Greenpeace now shilling for oil companies or something?

        If you're talking about Moore no. He's shilling pro-capitalism when greenpeace when communist, and dove onto the crazy train.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Do they seriously need to hire someone to tell them how to abide by the basic rules of network neutrality? Is that concept so difficult to understand? All you have to do is drop all paid prioritization and make throttling (if any) load-based irrespective of packet content and sender/recipient. You know, the way the Internet was designed to work.

      • Yes, they do have to pay someone, because that's what companies do after all... They pay knowledgable people to do things for them. Is that really that hard to understand?

    • I think it's legit. Net neutrality is one of those least common denominator things where everyone has to do it, or it doesn't work. If Charter had decided to honor net neutrality, while Comcast, TW, Verizon, etc. were being double-paid for traffic by their customers and by websites like Netflix, then Charter would've had to charge their customers higher prices in relation to the other cable companies just to provide the same level of service. That would've put them at a competitive disadvantage. Not dir
    • This is the obvious outcome, tinfoil hat or not.

  • Or their own commitments? Charter's going to do whatever the fuck it wants to do.

  • by Immostlyharmless ( 1311531 ) on Friday June 26, 2015 @08:32PM (#49999611)
    What does it say when this is the strongest commitment ever?

    "We promise if you consider letting this go through that we won't break the law for at least....um....yeah 3 years sounds good to us, what do you think?"

    Are they fucking kidding?
    • by amiga3D ( 567632 )

      I'm guessing that they're going to try it by the rules for 3 years and see how it works. If, as I suspect, they make a killing they'll decide it was a good decision. If they don't make the money they'd like it'll be "we tried."

    • Exactly. I want to see baseline 1 GB/s symmetrical for >$50/month or the war isnt over. There should be no tiers at all for home connections.
      • by Anonymous Coward

        I'm quite sure you can already get 1GB/s symmetrical for greater than $50/month. Quite a bit greater, in fact!

  • by Anonymous Coward

    I promise not to beat her for 3 years....

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 26, 2015 @08:42PM (#49999639)

    I know it goes totally again the slashdot manifesto to actually like a cable company, but in my area (West Michigan) Charter has been nothing but fantastic for over a decade now. They have been incredibly reliable, very responsive (are happy to bury new cables to your home if your old ones aren't up to the job, for example) to problems, offer an "internet only" package at a (small) discount, are at least 3x as fast as any other company in the area (Comcast and AT&T, both of which completely suck in this area). They have never blocked or throttled any traffic. Their representatives at the local office are even friendly and helpful. I can't wait until Charter finally takes over most of the Comcast network in my area, as many of my clients are on Comcast, which is around 25% the speed of Charter in my area (AT&T's top speed in my area is even worse). Crazy, but true.

  • by manu0601 ( 2221348 ) on Friday June 26, 2015 @08:48PM (#49999655)

    When we attempt to impose rules on corporation, first they scream they will not be able to do business anymore and this will destroy whatever is at stake.

    But in the end, while there is non zero profit to be made, corporation will cope with the new rules.

  • by MillerHighLife21 ( 876240 ) on Friday June 26, 2015 @08:54PM (#49999673) Homepage

    About 10 years ago their service was not very good where I am. About 5 years ago that started to change. 2 years ago they called me up and just said, hey, just FYI I know you bought your own modem but we're sending you a new one for free. We just increased everybody to 60mb service (also no extra charge) and the modem you have won't work at those speeds.

    Charter + Cable Card + Tivo Roamio has turned into just about the best tv/internet experience I've had. I never thought I'd say that about a cable company, but at least in the Greenville, SC area Charter does a great job.

    • I live in Spartanburg county, and I believe I can confirm this post. Charter used to be a little touch and go, and since the only other option was DSL (and not very good at that), we had to put up with it. It was generally always enough to play Starcraft or Diablo 2 with, so no biggie. We moved to the new house nearly 9 years ago, and we had a series of issues that required visits and working on the cable lines, but since the last time they were out here, it's been quite consistent. Not totally sure how the

  • That's just an "introductory offer" like they always do - sounds good to get you on board, then they hammer you after that. At least they're consistent!
  • by whistlingtony ( 691548 ) on Friday June 26, 2015 @09:14PM (#49999759)
    So... They promise to not fuck people for 3 years, but after that they're good. That's just insulting...
  • by Dega704 ( 1454673 ) on Friday June 26, 2015 @10:07PM (#49999941)
    I was actually buying this until the "for a minimum of three years" part. Why only 3 years? Why not 10 years? Why not indefinitely? How can a "Net Neutrality Activist" actually have the nerve to present that to us with a straight face? I certainly think that Charter is better than Comcast, but this looks like a publicity stunt to get their merger approved.
    • This is a temp job.... writing the documents about Charter's "net neutrality" system only has to be done once.

    • by sims 2 ( 994794 )

      This.
      It should be 5 years minimum.

      • by KGIII ( 973947 )

        Why five? That is just another arbitrary number pulled from nowhere.

        • by sims 2 ( 994794 )

          Because they probably wouldn't agree to 10 or 20 years no company likes permanent agreements.

          I know I wouldn't agree to a 10 year agreement with my isp even if they offered to double my bandwidth and charge me half as much.

          one year yes maybe even two (and only with SLA) but 10 years no.

          They want the option to screw us just as much as we want the option to switch to another provider.

          • by KGIII ( 973947 )

            I would not even agree to a single year contract with my ISP. Still 5 years seems a strange complaint over 3 years. It just seems odd.

  • When content providers have a large amount of data to repeat to customers, they move servers to the ISPs data center and we support them getting the content to us faster.... but when websites get locked out, they claim it's a net neutrality problem and we support that.

    Uhm, pick a side!

  • real protests have 50000000 members

  • I was also buying into this subject matter http://www.dailymotion.com/vid... [dailymotion.com]
  • Working on blocking a few Microsoft sites was a mistake on my part, as they are used to retrieve Certificates (Certs) so had to enable them again, But using Robtex.com to view the addresses, there are Edge servers between them and me; and I imagine all. Edge servers are exempt and can throttling traffic to maintain a server or balance the load, as per the Net Neutrality rules.

  • Marvin Ammori is considered a "sensible" net neutrality advocate by the lobbyists and regulatory attorneys who represent the Cable & Telecom biz, as a whole, both on the CA state, and Federal levels. An anonymous-remaining legal person at NCTA told me, "he's not a wingnut like most of the rest."

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