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FBI Confirms Open Investigation Into Gamergate 556

v3rgEz writes In a terse form letter responding to a FOIA request, the FBI has confirmed it has an open investigation into Gamergate, the loose but controversial coalition of gamers calling for ethics in gaming journalism — even as some members have harassed and sent death threats to female gaming developers and critics.
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FBI Confirms Open Investigation Into Gamergate

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  • Who? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by phantomfive ( 622387 ) on Friday December 19, 2014 @01:39AM (#48631433) Journal
    Which ones are they investigating? The drama-mongers or the drama-mongs?
    • That would be the drama-mongers and the drama-mongees.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Probably the frothing horde that sends out death threats and threatens to shoot up universities. There aren't two sides in #gamergate, just #gg, their victims, and people who think #gg are idiots.

      • Re:Who? (Score:4, Insightful)

        by Schadrach ( 1042952 ) on Friday December 19, 2014 @08:47AM (#48632651)

        Not really accurate. Mostly because you're pretending that #gg is doing all the threatening and doxxing.

        Even if we utterly "listen and believe" the folks who claim to have been threatened and then whip out their "donate to me to show how non-sexist you are" buttons that it's exactly as bad as they claim it is, you still have more people being threatened by anti-GG folks than by GG. Of course, many of those don't count because they have the wrong genitals to count as victims, and the rest don't count because women who don't agree with anti-GG folks aren't *really* women, such as https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

        Or to put it another way, no one in GG has sent filled syringes or dead animals to the anti-GG crowd, or called their employers to try to get them fired from jobs wholly unrelated to the topic at hand (this is actually a surprisingly common tactic from the SJW crowd when someone disagrees with them). The anti-GG crowd has done those things.

        Though I'll admit, asshole that he is, I still find it funny how many times Roguestar has been suspended from twitter.

        The only things anti-GG can claim against GG are people saying mean things over the internet, and a school shooting threat that both didn't claim to be related to GG (and let's face it, there are plenty of folks who hate Anita Sarkeesian in particular and feminist speakers in general who are wholly unconnected from GG), and was deemed not to be a credible threat by law enforcement.

      • Re:Who? (Score:4, Insightful)

        by ganjadude ( 952775 ) on Friday December 19, 2014 @09:14AM (#48632811) Homepage

        Probably the frothing horde that sends out death threats and threatens to shoot up universities.

        as the OP said...which side?

    • by Kunedog ( 1033226 ) on Friday December 19, 2014 @02:42AM (#48631613)
      Slashdot's coverage of Gamergate has been abysmal. Every other summary has followed the template "harassment, misogyny, threats, harassment, misogyny, threats . . . oh btw Gamergate."

      Sad as it is, this shitty summary is still the most "unbiased" simply because it straightforwardly mentions the movement as the topic of the discussion. The attempt to imply that the FBI said they were investigating pro-Gamergate people has already been destroyed in the comments (thank fuck users are still in control of the discussion here).

      Four months later, there still hasn't been a single /. thread about the Gamergate scandal itself: the journalistic lapses, the universal news media blackout and user forum/comment censorship (including reddit and 4chan of all places), and the still-ongoing coordinated smear campaign that was launched on August 28 with the "Gamers are Dead" shotgun blast of hit pieces. All of those milestones should have gotten at least one article here each.
      • by phantomfive ( 622387 ) on Friday December 19, 2014 @02:48AM (#48631629) Journal

        All of those milestones should have gotten at least one article here each.

        Please no.

        What we really need is an opinion piece by Bennett. Then the circle will be complete.

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by Microlith ( 54737 )

        The attempt to imply that the FBI said they were investigating pro-Gamergate people has already been destroyed in the comments (thank fuck users are still in control of the discussion here).

        Destroyed in the comments? Mealy-mouthed arguments and claims of "false flag" (what the fuck is this, Infowars?) don't make a convincing argument.

        there still hasn't been a single /. thread about the Gamergate scandal itself

        Sure there has. Oh you mean the journalism aspect, which was never a relevant part and the actions

        • by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 19, 2014 @05:17AM (#48632051)

          Are you serious?

          We have logs proving collusion, we saw sites getting censored the day Total Biscuit brought this to light,we have over a dozen websites publishing attack articles on the same day.

          I do not give two shits about ethics in journalism, it's a pointless battle. But what I do care about is people denying the fucking obvious because it conflicts with their personal politics. Game journalism is corrupt as shit and used SJW bullshit to defend themselves - whether you think that's justified, whether you think the gamergate response of harassment and threats is the bigger story, fine I have no opinion. But denying the objective fucking truth is horseshit, and I can't believe /. stands for it.

      • Media blackout (Score:3, Insightful)

        There is no media blackout because the media does not care. How could you even condense this whole shit show down into a one minute news story? Outside of the gaming community nobody really cares.

        • Re:Media blackout (Score:4, Insightful)

          by Kunedog ( 1033226 ) on Friday December 19, 2014 @04:02AM (#48631861)
          I was referring to the initial week-long news blackout on gaming and tech sites (including Slashdot), most of which were specialized enough (and/or small enough) to care. But you couldn't find a single article about the corruption anywhere, until the pressure of the customer revolt built and the blackout ended in the Aug 28 gaming press tantrum. If the Streisand Effect had a Richter scale, the Gamergate scandal was at least a 9.5.
          • Re:Media blackout (Score:5, Informative)

            by dave420 ( 699308 ) on Friday December 19, 2014 @05:05AM (#48632019)
            The initial corruption turned out to not exist, so it's no wonder it wasn't reported on. After that the hate-train was already at top speed and it was too late to stop it.
          • Re:Media blackout (Score:4, Insightful)

            by silentcoder ( 1241496 ) on Friday December 19, 2014 @07:29AM (#48632343)

            That is because the "corruption" never happened, there is no evidence that it ever happened - on the other hand, the death threats and harassment was very, very real.

            • I would argue this point but then I realized that-- just as OP says-- noone including myself cares. I dont even really know what half of the people here are talking about with "pro-gamergate" and "anti-gamergate" because I stopped caring about halfway into the second article on the issue. Fact is that theres a lot of sleazy people and Im not really clear why an article on it is news, or why Yet Another Sexism Accusation against gamers is news either.

              Noone cares because both sides are being dumb and genera

              • Re:Media blackout (Score:4, Insightful)

                by DrGamez ( 1134281 ) on Friday December 19, 2014 @01:59PM (#48635793)

                This malaise is the problem.

                One side is saying "women get treated like shit in video games, this has to stop".

                The other side is sending death threats and harassing the family members of these women.

                The reason you don't care (and the reason you still felt you needed to comment TELLING us you don't care) is because you're lucky enough to have the luxury and privilege to ignore these stories. For the women and people of color who are being constantly assaulted because they had the nerve to say "hey this culture sucks for us," do not have this luxury.

                • The reason you don't care (and the reason you still felt you needed to comment TELLING us you don't care) is because you're lucky enough to have the luxury and privilege to ignore these stories.

                  No, the real problem is that I actually read the story way back when, understood the issues apparently better than you did, but because Im not agreeing with you you're painting me with a broad "privileged white male" brush and dismissing my viewpoint.

                  The issue I had if you must know is that 95% of the criticism leveled at Sarkesian-- such as her generally unprofessional (ie intimate) relationships with reviewers of her games, her apparent pathological lying, and the fact that she makes unremarkable games an

                  • The issue I had if you must know is that 95% of the criticism leveled at Sarkesian-- such as her generally unprofessional (ie intimate) relationships with reviewers of her games, her apparent pathological lying, and the fact that she makes unremarkable games

                    People like you complaining about "political correctness" and "feminists playing the victims" are idiots, you know why? They get their women confused and can't even spell their names correctly:

                    It's "Anita Sarkeesian", she doesn't make games. She does videos about tropes in gaming.

                    The person gamergaters complain about that did make a game was: Zoe Quinn.

                    Their names are nothing alike.

                • The reason you don't care (and the reason you still felt you needed to comment TELLING us you don't care) is because you're lucky enough to have the luxury and privilege to ignore these stories.

                  Your privilege is not my privilege, you filthy capitalist bigot.

            • AFAIK not one of the five named as sleeping with Quinn ever denied it. One had even admitted it. As the last time I payed attention there was legal action ongoing the lack of denial has interesting implications. In any case, Quinngate never would have turned into Gamergate had the gaming press not turned their Cursed Shotgun of Moral Outrage+1(Wielders must act like the dumbest Paladin trope on crusade with no regard to the injury afflicted on party members) on the entire gaming population in a piss poor at

      • by DogDude ( 805747 ) on Friday December 19, 2014 @03:52AM (#48631821)
        That's because none of that little shit matters. Nobody really cares about a bunch of guys who live in their parents' basements arguing about video games. People do care when a bunch of people threaten other people with bodily harm.

        Get some perspective, moron.
      • by Brulath ( 2765381 ) on Friday December 19, 2014 @04:11AM (#48631883)

        Why do you feel like "Gamergate" is worthy of additional mainstream news coverage? Mainstream news is an entertainment product more than anything else, and few people who watch / read it religiously are likely to be both heavily involved in gaming and passionate about the range of issues Gamergate purports to cover. It makes sense that it's more of a footnote or focuses more on the side that's likely to be of interest to a wider audience.

        Discussions of the Gamergate issue haven't proven productive in any venue thus far, as they're often dominated by mistruths, irrelevant information, lies, and harassment. I usually avoid voluntarily exposing myself to it because I have no way of determining who is being truthful without significant investigation, and I frankly don't care enough to spend the time looking into the various claims; I suspect that's true of many people.

        Let's be a bit more frank here, the movement has something in common with religion: its goals are so vague that the people who are trying to do 'good' and improve things are sheltering those who want to cause destruction. There is a significant vocal minority who are using the shield of the many moderates to justify their extremist tactics, which seem to revolve around harassment campaigns. When this happens to your movement you can either try to correct it or disassociate yourself from it and re-form in a more focused group. I suggest the latter is more likely to work at this point, it seems like it would be quite hard to drown out the vitriol I've seen without even trying to look for it.

        You should really look into dropping Gamergate entirely, to divest yourself of its now relatively toxic branding, and creating several focused movements to replace it.

        • by sinij ( 911942 ) on Friday December 19, 2014 @10:13AM (#48633279)
          I personally believe that this issue is worthwhile of further attention. Why? Because as a gamer that does not associate with GG, I still don't care to have gaming turned into radfem 'mandatory inclusion' platform.

          If you thought Jack Thompson was bad, read up on what radfem thinks about boys and gun play. If they have their way with gaming, next BG of CoD will have pink waffle bats and dolls instead of guns.
          • Why do you believe the gaming industry will be turned into a "radfem mandatory inclusion" platform?

            This is completely ludicrous. This is not a zero-sum game. We can have games that don't treat women like pieces of meat AND you can still have your Call of Duty games.

            When I see comments like yours proclaiming some end-days of "traditional gaming" I wonder what MSPaint conspiracy image you pulled that line from.

          • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) *

            There is no need for "mandatory inclusion", half of gamers are already women. There isn't any "radfem" here either, just people complaining about abuse.

    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward

      The people who are sending death and rape threats over the internet. The FBI doesn't give a shit about ethical lapses in gaming journalism or who fucked who as those are not crimes.

  • by brennz ( 715237 ) on Friday December 19, 2014 @01:47AM (#48631455)

    is technically challenging to do as the internet can be anonymous.

    In many cases it is irresponsible journalism to assume it is "gamergate" launching the harassment campaigns since we know the SA/4chan professional trolls are antagonizing both sides to incite drama.

  • cowardice (Score:4, Informative)

    by Iamthecheese ( 1264298 ) on Friday December 19, 2014 @02:11AM (#48631527)
    This isn't even the use of weasel words. The FBI is investigating *opponents* of GamerGate for lying about threats and third party trolls for making other threats while the summery claims the investigation is about threats made by proponents. I really, really hope whoever made the threats and whoever lied about them is caught. I hope this because I know damn well GamerGate did not make these threats.

    The entire case against GamerGate is built of press pushing talking points off of empty claims made by professional victims. That's the start and end of the "threats and harassment" side of the story. Meanwhile a consumer movement against, ironically, corruption in the press is being libeled to suit political agendas.
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by Khyber ( 864651 )

      "even as some members have harassed and sent death threats to female gaming developers and critics."

      And OF COURSE Slashdot will conveniently leave out the fact the FBI is getting involved because it's the people against the Gamer Gate people that have been FAKING death threats.

      Go fucking figure Slashdot's poor editing (or more likely intentional FUD) would give THE WRONG IMPRESSION.

      GamerGaters can prove the threats against them were external. Anti-GG have been faking threats to themselves.

      Slashdot is devolv

      • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

        by Microlith ( 54737 )

        Slashdot is devolving into a geek version of Fox News.

        Irony, given how many gamergate apologists sound like right wingers after viewing Fox News for extended periods.

      • by epyT-R ( 613989 )

        Fox News with a left friendly bias = MSNBC, NYT et al. Welcome to koolaid flavored 'news.'

      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) *

        Seems like a very risky game to play, faking death threats against yourself and then asking the police and FBI to investigate. The chance of them finding out that you faked it and wasted their time is pretty high, and if the claim that it was all for financial gain via Kickstarter and free publicity is true it would be a pretty serious crime.

        If you have evidence of this you should firstly pass it on to the FBI, and secondly post it here. By the way, just in case you didn't realize, a marked up screenshot of

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Microlith ( 54737 )

      So in other words, IT'S A CONSPIRACY!

      I hope this because I know damn well GamerGate did not make these threats.

      Given that there's nothing resembling membership rolls or a roster for gamergate, much like occupy and anonymous, anyone can claim they're part of gamergate and say whatever they want. And given that the birth cries of gamergate were basically textbook misogyny and harassment, it's pretty much impossible to separate the two.

      The entire case against GamerGate is built of press pushing talking point

      • Re:cowardice (Score:4, Informative)

        by sd4f ( 1891894 ) on Friday December 19, 2014 @02:35AM (#48631597)
        There was a bit of a conspiracy, because, while there's no concrete evidence, it appeared that a few of the 'victims' were working really hard through the use of sockpuppets, to try to build the foundations for a larger harassment campaign.
      • by epyT-R ( 613989 )

        1. argument from authority. It's actually part of a long time conspiracy among so-called 'journalists' to promote victimhood among women (and other groups) in order to justify authoritarian ideology. They call it 'making a difference' in 'journalism' university programs.

        2. It's the anti-gamergate crowd that can't handle criticism of their fallacious accusations, which they label as 'misogyny'. It's these accusations that ignited the long brewing issue in the first place.

    • Re:cowardice (Score:5, Informative)

      by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) * on Friday December 19, 2014 @07:57AM (#48632435) Homepage Journal

      The problem is GamerGate started with the attacks on Zoe Quinn, which turned out to be complete fabrications. The alleged positive review of her game doesn't exist, there was no conspiracy. It was all just some jilted lover's blog post and all the asshats who jumped on to the bandwagon by spreading lies and rumours about her.

      When it became apparent that the whole thing was bullshit, GamerGate moved on to other targets. By that point it was too late though. The "Gamer" tag was poisoned beyond recovery, and the alleged journalistic impropriety was all just innuendo and thinly veiled outrage that women were demanding respect and fair treatment as gamers.

      Look at the nonsense GamerGate spouted about Anita Sarkeesian, for example. You may not agree with her points, but that doesn't excuse endless fake accounts, fake posts about her using the Kickstarter money to buy expensive shoes, weaponized pornography etc. You could argue that it was only a few on the fringes doing all that, but that's just a No True Scotsman argument.

  • Anyone whose been following gamergate would know this by now. This is late October news. The FBI has also stated that some people named as hacking victims had in-fact hacked themselves. Didn't name names, but three names that come to mind are Phil Fish, Zoe Quinn and Brianna Wu.
    • by tsotha ( 720379 )
      I really wish these people would be punished somehow. The FBI doesn't have unlimited resources, and chasing around fake death threats isn't something the agency needs to be doing.
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  • "gate" (Score:5, Informative)

    by skam240 ( 789197 ) on Friday December 19, 2014 @02:53AM (#48631645)

    Can we please stop adding gate to the end of any controversial subject? It was barely clever the first time it was done and it's gotten to be pretty much the polar opposite at this point.

  • Yes, even though some people were threatened, there's an investigation. Looks like the author wanted the issue to be ignored because some people are assholes. That would be like if you got your car stolen, and because your racist neighbor said, "I hope you catch that nigger so I can lynch him!", the investigation was dropped. Bribery is still illegal, even if other things are happening.
  • by 91degrees ( 207121 ) on Friday December 19, 2014 @04:03AM (#48631865) Journal
    Gamergate is a conspiracy theory (although to be fair ethics in game journalism are non-existent). Anti-gamergate is made up mainly of those rich middle class women who think that nerds who have been picked on their entire lives for being nerds are somehow opressing them. The media sides with the media of course.

    Gamergate is made up mostly of kids who fling slurs that would make a sailor bluch around on XBox live, and anti-GG seem surprised when their slurs and insults that usually shut down their opponents bounce off. Gamergate, on the other hand feels that they are each owed a personal explanation for each and every point made by any of the main anti-GG side.

    I'm leaving out a lot of the more unpleasant aspects from both sides.

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