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US Arrests Son of Russian MP In Maldives For Hacking 176

Posted by timothy
from the by-coincidence dept.
First time accepted submitter ugen (93902) writes "The son of a Russian lawmaker has been arrested by the U.S. on charges of selling credit card information he stole by hacking into the computers of American retailers. Roman Seleznev, 30, was arrested overseas by the U.S. Secret Service on July 5 and was ordered detained today during a hearing in federal court in Guam, the Justice Department said in a statement."
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US Arrests Son of Russian MP In Maldives For Hacking

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  • Hm... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by thieh (3654731) on Tuesday July 08, 2014 @09:41AM (#47406659)
    Since when did the US got power to arrest people in Maldives? Does that mean they can just go into arbitrary countries and arrest people arbitrarily?
  • Imperial Police (Score:5, Insightful)

    by mbone (558574) on Tuesday July 08, 2014 @09:49AM (#47406729)

    What in the hell are the US police doing arresting anyone in a foreign country? Is the Maldives part of the empire now?

    And, yes, the Russians are totally correct in calling this kidnapping. Look for some poor American tourist or businessman to be nabbed in a tit-for-tat.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 08, 2014 @09:50AM (#47406733)

    As more and more Snowden leaks are coming to surface, Obama is getting desperate. He grounded presidential planes to get Snowden before and he's not beyond kidnapping people to exchange them for ransom (Snowden).

    If Obama doesn't release the kid, I hope Russia will start "arresting" US citizens in the same matter.

  • Re:Kidnapping. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 08, 2014 @10:03AM (#47406797)
    Sounds just like the United States.
  • by Ihlosi (895663) on Tuesday July 08, 2014 @10:07AM (#47406833)
    The Russians are masters of passive aggression when it comes to law enforcement when it suits them: the place is corrupt from top to bottom, and it manifests itself in a complete lack of desire to cooperate in international law enforcement. They have a convenient clause in their constitution which lets them refuse to extradite anybody, no matter what -- but is only exercised when it suits them.

    I hate to break it to you, but the phrase above remains true if you replace "Russians" with any country powerful enough to get away with this kind of behavior.

  • by Charliemopps (1157495) on Tuesday July 08, 2014 @11:05AM (#47407277)

    Replying to myself - as it turns out, the plot thickens:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/... [huffingtonpost.com]

    Right, the US has gone completely off the rails in recent years. "oh, this guy stole some credit card numbers... Let's kidnap him, fly him out of the country and try him in some random court outside the country! Yea! Go USA!"

    Seriously? It'd be one thing if he blew something up... but credit card fraud?

  • by jratcliffe (208809) on Tuesday July 08, 2014 @01:38PM (#47408533)

    The US Secret Service is chartered with two utterly unrelated duties:
    1) Investigation of financial crimes such as counterfeiting and fraud.
    2) Protection of the US protected class of untouchable leaders, as well as visiting foreign dignitaries.

    I don't see violation of the rights of third party nationals in foreign lands anywhere in their charter. Surely there are normal cooperative channels to bring the case to the attention of the law enforcement agencies of the foreign lands and also the third party governments.

    Violation of the sovereignty of the US by attacking it or its citizens does not seem to be a part of this case.

    1. This falls clearly under #1, investigation of financial crimes.
    2. He was indicted in 2011. If he were, say, a UK citizen (for example), the US would have put in an extradition request, and the UK would have (following a hearing, assuming there was credible evidence) extradited him. Same if the alleged crime had taken place in the UK, and he were a US citizen in the US.
    3. Russia doesn't extradite their citizens, period, and, even if they did, there's no extradition treaty between the US and Russia. Therefore, no, there aren't any "normal cooperative channels" involved.
    4. If the Maldives government (and I have to assume he was arrested there, otherwise he'd be a complete idiot, knowing that he had been indicted in the US, to visit Guam) consented to his arrest and transfer to the US, that's entirely kosher. The Maldives doesn't have an extradition treaty with the US (they don't have one with anyone, as far as I know, which might have been a reason that Mr. Seleznev decided to vacation there), but that doesn't mean that they're not allowed to extradite people, just that they're not obliged to.

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