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California Regulators Tell Ride-Shares No Airport Runs 314

An anonymous reader writes in with news about ride-share crackdowns in California. California regulators are threatening to revoke permits for on-demand ride companies UberX, Lyft, Sidecar, Summon and Wingz unless they stop giving rides to and from airports within two weeks. The move could lead to the state shutting down the companies' operations. Flouting the airport rules also flouts regulations that the CPUC set up for the new generation of ride companies to operate in California. In a clear rebuttal to an argument often made by the ride companies, Peevey wrote: "These safety requirements should not hinder your creativity nor should they impede your innovation."
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California Regulators Tell Ride-Shares No Airport Runs

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 12, 2014 @08:08PM (#47226199)

    who tell everyone what to do. problem solved.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 12, 2014 @08:10PM (#47226213)

    to drive your friend to the airport without a permit.

  • by mark_reh ( 2015546 ) on Thursday June 12, 2014 @08:11PM (#47226229) Journal

    area. There were three airports and four train systems (or was it four airports and three train systems?). None of the trains went to any of the airports. I always figured the taxi union lobbied hard when it was time to decided the train line terminations. I think it has improved a little since the early 90s, but probably not much.

  • So wait... what? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by mark-t ( 151149 ) <markt AT nerdflat DOT com> on Thursday June 12, 2014 @08:23PM (#47226285) Journal
    If I call my friend and ask him to give me a lift to the airport and I give him, say, $20 in exchange which is considerably more than what it would cost in gasoline (almost an order of magnitude more, in fact), is he breaking the law by accepting the transaction? Am I breaking the law by soliciting such assistance? If not, then why is it somehow different if the driver is not somebody personally known to me?
  • by mi ( 197448 ) <slashdot-2017q4@virtual-estates.net> on Thursday June 12, 2014 @08:45PM (#47226387) Homepage Journal
    Or even your wife [dnainfo.com].
  • Re:Cabbies. (Score:5, Interesting)

    by grub ( 11606 ) <slashdot@grub.net> on Thursday June 12, 2014 @09:05PM (#47226495) Homepage Journal
    I was suggesting that the bulk of the complaints are likely coming from cabbies.

    Michael Peevey mentions "safey rules" but then goes on to 'lacking airport permits, as well as lacking proper "trade dress" on their vehicles and lacking proof of insurance.' Ok, lacking proof of insurance I can understand. So carry papers in the glovebox and all is well.
    Airport permits? That's just money denied to the airports. I'd wager the complaints that are not from cabbies are from the airport authorities for this very reason.
    Trade dress? Fine, slap on a cheap magnetic sign. That is not a safety issue.

    They dress is up as "safety rules" but the real motives are financial.
  • by TheGratefulNet ( 143330 ) on Thursday June 12, 2014 @09:53PM (#47226709)

    its a lie.

    you and I can drive to the airport. and we can drop people off and pick them up!

    so its a total bullshit lie.

    can you say 'protectionism'? sure, I knew you could.

  • by monkeyFuzz ( 3398671 ) on Thursday June 12, 2014 @10:41PM (#47226939)
    The ride-share drivers may as well make hay while the sun shines as I suspect their 15 mins of fame is close to done. Once autonomous vehicles are approved for use (yes I expect the same lobbies to fight it) neither ride share drivers not cabbies will be required to provide safe transportation and all this crying over this and that issue will be moot. All one needs is a fleet of self driving cars taking the human factor out of the equation for good!
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 12, 2014 @10:48PM (#47226961)

    In fact, it was so bad in my hometown for a while, that they actually guaranteed the public bus wouldn't run to the airport. That way, you would have to take a cab.

    Our company would hire a limousine (actually a chouffered luxury car) to the airport because it was much cheaper than taking a cab). Eventually the hotels were getting people hitching rides on the hotel shuttles who were not staying at the hotel, to such a degree that the hotel charged a nominal fee, about 1/4th the cab fare. That eventually broke the monopoly, and finally, ten years later you can take the public bus too.

    It is crazy, but due to the changes, you can finally ride a cab to the airport for about half what it cost fifteen years ago. (and that's not adjusting for inflation)

  • by Karmashock ( 2415832 ) on Friday June 13, 2014 @12:39AM (#47227291)

    Obviously its just protectionism for the taxi companies. Nothing more or less.

    They do the same thing with mass transit. The subway they're building in Los Angeles will not go to the airport.

    A lot of this comes down to the taxi medallions which the cities charge taxi companies to run their fleets.

    Those medallions can be very expensive. And so the cities have a very strong financial interest to protect the taxi companies.

    Really the taxi companies are quite justified in asking for protection. They've paid for it. The issue however is that the protection shouldn't have been for sale in the first place. Drop the cost of new medallions to something reasonable. A price similar to what the DMV charges for car registration. Then require uber etc to get the same license for all its drivers. The cost in this case would be nominal.

    Then everyone is on an equal footing. The cities won't get the same revenue from medallion sales. But then neither will they have to subvert city policy to protect taxi companies. So it should balance out in the end.

  • by jxander ( 2605655 ) on Friday June 13, 2014 @11:54AM (#47230409)

    Do I have to be licensed for chauffeur work if I drop my friends off at the airport?

    What about if they pay me for it? Maybe they're just covering gas money, but cash exchanged hands for rides? Have I run an illegal taxi service?

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