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Gun Rights Groups Say They Don't Oppose Smart Guns, Just Mandates 584

Lucas123 (935744) writes "When two gun stores attempted to sell the nation's first integrated smart gun, the iP1, gun advocacy groups were charged in media reports with organizing protests that lead to the stores pulling the guns from their shelves or reneging on their promise to sell them in the first place. But, the National Rifle Association and the National Shooting Sports Foundation say they do not oppose smart gun technology, which they call "authorized user recognition" firearms. "We do oppose any government mandate of this technology, however. The marketplace should decide," Mike Bazinet, a spokesman for the NSSF, wrote in an email reply to Computerworld. However, the argument for others goes that if stores begin selling smart guns, then legislators will draft laws requiring the technology."
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Gun Rights Groups Say They Don't Oppose Smart Guns, Just Mandates

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  • by Sockatume ( 732728 ) on Tuesday May 20, 2014 @12:14PM (#47047163)

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr... [cornell.edu]

    S5.1.1Each vehicle must have a starting system which, whenever the key is removed from the starting system prevents:
    (a) The normal activation of the vehicle's engine or motor; and
    (b) Either steering, or forward self-mobility, of the vehicle, or both.

  • by swillden ( 191260 ) <shawn-ds@willden.org> on Tuesday May 20, 2014 @12:14PM (#47047165) Journal

    4,000 or so people in the US die every year because they're accidentally shot by children, ranging from toddlers to pre-teens.

    Cite?

    Given that CDP numbers put the total number of accidental shooting deaths annually between 500 and 600 -- for all ages of shooters -- I expect your link to be very interesting.

  • by Sockatume ( 732728 ) on Tuesday May 20, 2014 @12:18PM (#47047217)

    Actually, most consumer vehicles are designed to minimise pedestrian injury these days, particularly given that most impacts occur in urban environments and are therefore comparatively low-speed. There are even standards they test against in Europe.

  • by CanHasDIY ( 1672858 ) on Tuesday May 20, 2014 @12:46PM (#47047567) Homepage Journal

    From http://nyagv.org/wp-content/up... [nyagv.org], which is one of the first links that comes up:

    Deaths: From 2005-2010, almost 3,800 people in the U.S. died from unintentional shootings.ii More than a third of the victims were under 25 years of age.

    That's less than 800/yr total, and less than 260 are under 25, meaning that accidental shooting deaths are one of the least common causes of death in the US, especially for kids.

    Conversely, preventable medical errors kill over 200,000 Americans every single year, and in fact is the third leading cause of death in this country, dwarfing gun deaths and car deaths combined.

    That said, after you start advocating for stricter control over doctors, drugs, and hospital procedures, I might consider listening to you make crap up about too many gun deaths.

    PS: This [mercola.com] is what a source citation looks like. A smart-ass link to Let Me Google That For You? Not so much.

  • by CanHasDIY ( 1672858 ) on Tuesday May 20, 2014 @12:53PM (#47047655) Homepage Journal

    Can you name me one unregulated free market that has ever existed?

    Almost every black market ever.

  • by Kielistic ( 1273232 ) on Tuesday May 20, 2014 @01:18PM (#47047945)
    Unfortunately shooting a burger has very little influence on its cholesterol content.
  • by amxcoder ( 1466081 ) on Tuesday May 20, 2014 @03:04PM (#47049227)
    I shouldn't need to provide stats to an AC, but here goes...

    There are approximately 300,000,000 privately owned guns in the US (estimate by NRA). And those are distributed to about 40-50% of the total households in the US. That is a lot of people owning a whole lot of guns.

    Of those 300 Million guns in circulation, and those households that own guns, there were only 12,102 deaths (homicides) from firearms for the year analyzed. That same year drunk drivers killed 15,935 alone, not including other means of aggravated homicide by other means. This translates to LESS THAN 1% of all firearms being used in violent crimes. (if I divide the number of gun deaths, by the number of guns, I get 0.00004034%, which is statistically insignificant).

    Of all the firearm homicides committed each year, 2/3rds of them are criminal on criminal violence (aka: gang related). And gangs in general are responsible for 50-90% of all violent crimes (with or without firearms), meaning gang members actually DO have an interest in killing folks and committing violence, but even statistics show, that they even prefer to kill other gang members rather than "random" folks.

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