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Australian Government To Standardise On Drupal 102

Posted by timothy
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angry tapir (1463043) writes "The Australian government is eyeing the introduction of a government-wide content-management system, with the preferred choice almost certain to be Drupal. Government documents indicate that part of the appeal is that Drupal modules can be easily shared between government agencies and with the public."
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Australian Government To Standardise On Drupal

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  • Only requirements were:-
    1) Free, since this government thinks they should get everything free while screwing over anyone in need...
    2) Server must run off a 15Mb/1Mb internet connection since that's what the rest of us are doomed to...

    • 1) Free, since this government thinks they should get everything free while screwing over anyone in need...
      2) Server must run off a 15Mb/1Mb internet connection since that's what the rest of us are doomed to...

      Fine, but these apply to just about any web framework you can name.

      In my strong opinion, PHP is on the way out, and Drupal is an attempt to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. There are more web-friendly languages and frameworks out there now.

      Government choosing to go with PHP is like government sticking with COBOL. It's understandable for maintaining old infrastructure but I question the wisdom of it for new projects.

      • by Anonymous Coward

        In my strong opinion, PHP is on the way out [...] Government choosing to go with PHP is like government sticking with COBOL

        Making things up is fun and all, but PHP is the most popular language on the internet [builtwith.com], and shows no signs of decreased usage whatsoever [builtwith.com].

        So in the light of actual data, your "strong opinion" that it's like COBOL and "on the way out", is fucking moronic.

        There's plenty of valid reasons to criticize PHP, but this isn't one of them.

        • Making things up is fun and all

          I generally let people know up front when I'm doing that.

          but PHP is the most popular language on the internet, and shows no signs of decreased usage whatsoever.

          So? COBOL was the most popular computer language for Government and big corporate projects, for a very long time after newer and better things had come along. That was my point. Your numbers mean one thing, and one thing only: that PHP worked and was popular for a long time, before better things came along. They prove nothing else. They simply reflect "established base", in precisely the way COBOL programming jobs hung around for decades because of t

          • IANA COBOList, but in fact as I understand it most big banks are still running COBOL for their central ops. It works, it's fast, it's tuned to their needs and their mainframe architecture. While it seems verbose, it's actually much closer to the bare metal (or at least the virtual OS) than almost any language but FORTRAN and C. On the old DEC-10 iron, COBOL was the only high level language that had access to an assembler-language SORT system. It ran rings around every other language, for its application

            • Citibank spent $500 million on Y2K, converting all their old COBOL to ... COBOL.

              Right. But that's still along the line with what I was saying: it's not a new project, it's an established base.

              I worked for a company in 2000 that was still writing code for its business software system running on 70s-80s WANG "minicomputers" (the size of a large desk plus a cabinet or two). That's not quite as old but it is still ancient by computing standards.

              Why were they still using that stuff 20+ years later? Because they had spent millions of dollars on that infrastructure back in the day and i

  • "Australia Gov: It was a bad move to standardize on drupal." Let's see how long it takes.
    • Unlikely on two counts: 1) Governments rarely do that. Viz. Obamacare - they were hiding the problems for two years until it just became too obvious. Most government IT failures are just swept under the rug; 2) A large number of government and other organizations have been using it for years, and the number is increasing so whatever its failings, Drupal continues to meet their needs better than any alternative.

      While WordPress runs about 16% of the top 10 million sites on the net while Drupal runs only ab

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