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LulzSec's Sabu To Be Sentenced In New York 135

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DavidGilbert99 writes "Two and a half years after he was arrested at his New York apartment by the FBI, LulzSEc member-turned-FBI informant Hector Monsegur (aka Sabu) is set to be sentenced in the South District of New York court at 4pm local time on Monday where he could face up to 124 years in jail. However, following his cooperation with the US authorities, Monsegur is likely to get a much reduced sentence and could avoid jail completely. His sentencing has been adjourned numerous times for unknown reasons, and if the FBI have any more use for him, then we could see it delayed again."
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LulzSec's Sabu To Be Sentenced In New York

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  • by gmuslera (3436) on Monday January 13, 2014 @11:39AM (#45939709) Homepage Journal
    Meanwhile getting drunk, driving a car and actually killing 4 people doing that gets no jail time at all [huffingtonpost.com]. US law needs justice like a fish needs a bycicle.
  • by jellomizer (103300) on Monday January 13, 2014 @11:47AM (#45939829)

    Justice isn't revenge.
    That part is often confused. There is difference between doing a crime by accident or via neglect, then doing it with intent.
    Now I am not saying I agree with the judgment for the the drunk driving. As Drunk Driving is major neglect on part of the driver, and should deserve jail time, to pinpoint the seriousness of what he did. That said, those hackers went out to cause harm on a large scale, and they did.
    Now just because we personally don't like the guys they harmed, doesn't make it right.

  • by nimbius (983462) on Monday January 13, 2014 @12:00PM (#45939993) Homepage
    The sentencing is a formality, a boilerplate. It is to send a message to any other would-be ne'er do wells that should you cooperate and come quietly the government will absolve you of your sins. Lulzsec for all their antics were champions of the government transparency inherent in a democracy contrived by the people and for the people.

    the lesson from this is that ideas never die. Next time if you want to be a hero, you need to take a good hard look at your life and decide "is it worth it?" in Sabus case his family and children were used as leverage against him by the government to help crush dissent. its something we americans are only accustomed to hearing when informed by our respective media channels of transgressions undertaken by this years "supreme evil dictatorship." Its also worth noting that what the government was threatening Sabu with was nothing short of torture; a lifetime of silence, discipline and remorse for a crime that took no lives.

    Sabu gave us hope and he taught us lessons. Edward Snowden played a chessmasters game in his defection and for it our government is left to do nothing more but ensure negative propaganda against him is dissemenated appropriately to all media outlets and further steps taken to mitigate a repeat performance. The only difference between a soviet system, the one we feared for 20 years, and our system, is that every 4 years we're burdened with the task of shuffling off to a school or church to apply our endorsement for a party. there are normally only ever two however. Neither actually operates in the service of its citizenry.

    the lesson the government misses is this: just because Lulzsec is gone doesnt mean a mission wasnt accomplished or a task wasnt set into motion. more disaffected citizens and netizens will take their place. Chelsea manning, Julian Assange, and countless others will have paved the road to the hill upon which the casket of imperialist fascism is laid to rest.
  • by gl4ss (559668) on Monday January 13, 2014 @01:22PM (#45940897) Homepage Journal

    well, that there is even debate that the possible sentence is between _zero_ years and 1.5 lifetimes should be enough to tell that something is quite fucked up in the legal system.

    you shouldn't be forced to provide evidence for your prosecution and this pretty much is it - and if the crime really is so horrible as to require 124 years then one shouldn't be able to snitch out of it in the first place. fucked up on so many levels.

  • by Entropius (188861) on Monday January 13, 2014 @01:51PM (#45941295)

    Edward Snowden played a chessmasters game in his defection and for it our government is left to do nothing more but ensure negative propaganda against him is dissemenated appropriately to all media outlets and further steps taken to mitigate a repeat performance. The only difference between a soviet system, the one we feared for 20 years, and our system, is that every 4 years we're burdened with the task of shuffling off to a school or church to apply our endorsement for a party. there are normally only ever two however.

    You're naive if you believe this.

    I live in Washington DC. There are city buses with "Thank you Edward Snowden!" advertisements on the sides, so big you can read it from a city block away, paid for by his supporters. There's an advertisement in the Pentagon subway station that says "Snowden honored his oath -- honor yours. Report unethical actions." with a URL.

    Compare this to what happened in the Soviet Union -- you'd never see this in Moscow in the 1960's. Yes, there are things that aren't perfect in the US. Yes, our government does some scary, scummy, tyrannical things. But just because things aren't perfect doesn't mean that we're living in a totalitarian hell.

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