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Credo Mobile Releases Industry's First Transparency Report 48

Posted by samzenpus
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memnock writes "Wired and The Washington Post both report that mobile service provider CREDO is the first telecom to release a report detailing requests from the government for customer information. From Wired: 'A small telecom believed to be at the center of a historic court battle over government surveillance published its first transparency report on Thursday, noting that it had received 16 government requests for customer data in 2013. But the report may be most significant for what it doesn't say.'"
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Credo Mobile Releases Industry's First Transparency Report

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  • by damn_registrars (1103043) <damn.registrars@gmail.com> on Sunday January 12, 2014 @12:58PM (#45932419) Homepage Journal
    For those not familiar with them, CREDO mobile is a carrier who donates some of their profits to left-leaning charities, causes, and social groups. They have often advertised their network on democratic underground, daily kos, and other democratic affiliated sites.
    • by ganjadude (952775) on Sunday January 12, 2014 @01:18PM (#45932551) Homepage
      ok, and? They are actually fighting a good fight here. Lets try and look at it from that point of view. I dont really care what direction someone leans if they do what is right, and taking onthe government for its over reach of power is the right thing to do.
    • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 12, 2014 @01:21PM (#45932573)

      I'm glad you let us know those facts.

      Since I'm conservative, my brain is already making ad hominem attacks on them and discounting anything they stick up for or say - even if it's for my own God given rights and against government abuses of authority.

      Re-reading that, I don't think anyone will get the satire.

      So....who gives a rat's ass what their politics are if they are telling the truth?

      One would have to be a fascist to have a problem with what this company publishing this information.

      • One would have to be a fascist to have a problem with what this company publishing this information.

        Which is exactly why many slashdot conservatives - many of whom are fascists under the guise of "ron paul libertarians" - would be against this company releasing this information. The partisan-driven world that many live in here on slashdot often boils down to "if the other guy supports it, it is evil no matter what", and by association "if someone who supports the other guy does it, I must oppose it and do the opposite".

        • by hoeferbe (168081)
          damn_registrars [slashdot.org] wrote [slashdot.org]:

          Which is exactly why many slashdot conservatives - many of whom are fascists under the guise of "ron paul libertarians" - would be against this company releasing this information.

          I'm sorry, but what?! I have never met someone claiming to be a Ron Paul Libertarian (of whom I've seen many comments here on Slashdot from) express opinions that promote the military-industrial complex, the keeping of secrets of government action by force or the trampling of individual rights. Conservative

          • I'm sorry, but what?! I have never met someone claiming to be a Ron Paul Libertarian (of whom I've seen many comments here on Slashdot from) express opinions that promote the military-industrial complex, the keeping of secrets of government action by force or the trampling of individual rights.

            Some of those are not the fascist ideals I speak of.

            The fascism that slashdot Paullowers promote is closer to the original ideals of fascism; ie totalitarian leadership with a greatly reduced ability of the people to express or seek their will.

            However your notion of the military-industrial complex is not far from the Paullower ideals. In a Paul government industry would be the military. Industry would be free to pursue any goals they aspire to, including exerting physical force overseas. Currently o

          • by AK Marc (707885)
            Ron/Rand Paul libertarians tend to indicate they don't believe in any human rights at all, but that there is a heirarchy. You don't have any rights, as they are all trumped by the owner of the land you are on. Property rights exist, but no human rights exist. You have the right to own property, if you can not afford property, you have no rights at all. All rights are derived through property ownership/control.

            That's sufficiently fascist for most people to be considered fascist, and seems consistent wit
          • I have never met someone claiming to be a Ron Paul Libertarian (of whom I've seen many comments here on Slashdot from) express opinions that promote the military-industrial complex, the keeping of secrets of government action by force or the trampling of individual rights.

            Ron Paul -- obviously the definitive "Ron Paul (so-called) Libertarian" -- is anti-choice [prospect.org], anti-religious freedom (believes "The notion of a rigid separation between church and state has no basis in either the text of the Constitution or [lewrockwell.com]

  • The most insidious thing is the unknown.

    Because the unknown can be:

    1. The worst thing ever.
    2. Whatever you imagine.
    3. Anything you imagine.
    4. Anything you want it to be.

    Because it is undefined.

    After reading the report, I think it met expectations.
  • Mostly meaningless (Score:4, Interesting)

    by dalias (1978986) on Sunday January 12, 2014 @01:55PM (#45932751)
    CREDO Mobile is just a reseller of access to Sprint's mobile network. The backdoors for logging/intercepting/etc. call data are all going to be at the carrier level (Sprint), not the reseller, so there's no need for law enforcement/NSA/etc. to go through CREDO at all.
    • I'm afraid this is not true. Traffic from behind various proxies would need more local monitoring: man-in-the-middle attacks with pilfered SSL keys are easiest when you can access the private keys from the load balacers or proxies that host local copies of the private keys. It's certainly true that the broadest access to core network traffic would be upstream, but assembling the information into a useful whole, or a useful transctipt, is easiest with more localized monitoring.

      • As a Sprint reseller their customers are using Sprint's towers and network equipment. Placing the backdoors on Sprint's network is plenty to get localized monitoring.
    • by Mikkeles (698461)

      I don't necessarily disagree, but I do wonder why the government felt the need to make requests directly to CREDO.

      • by grunthos (574421)

        In the MVNO case, Sprint knows that phone X was used at tower Y, but doesn't know who the phone belongs to. Credo knows that part.

  • by NoahsMyBro (569357) on Sunday January 12, 2014 @04:40PM (#45933631)

    Several years ago I wanted to switch to Credo, but they had no Windows Phones & I needed a WP for work, so I couldn't use them. They eventually got Windows Phones, but their ToS prohibits using the data plan for business uses, or as a hotspot, or with Push-email (ActiveSync).

    So as much as I'd like the money I'm spending already on mobile service to benefit Credo's causes, I can't use them. I routinely receive emails from them asking me to switch, and each time I wonder how much $ Credo is leaving on the table by forbidding these uses of their network.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    The problem with all these so-called transparency reports is that there is NO WAY TO VERIFY THEM.

    Only 2 groups know if the company is lying:
    (1) The company
    (2) The cops

    Both groups have an incentive to lie.

    When I was at Allegiance Telecom in the late 1990's, we were asked (by subpoena originating from a defense attorney) how many wiretaps we executed. A federal judge ordered us to lie...in another court case. So our lawyers did.

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