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Posted by timothy
from the little-touchy dept.
Taco Cowboy writes with news, as reported by the BBC, that eight people have been imprisoned in Dubai for creating a spoof video about youth culture in that country, for which they were accused of acting "with the intent of inciting to actions, or publishing or disseminating any information, news, caricatures, or other images liable to endanger state security and its higher interests or infringe on the public order." "The video, posted to YouTube, was a gentle satire on young men in the Satwa residential suburb of Dubai who adopt a 'gangsta' pose despite living the sedate, prosperous lifestyle more usually associated with Dubai residents."
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Upload a Spoof Video, Go To Jail (In Dubai)

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  • God damn! (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward

    Arabs are some uptight people!

    And they used to be the most progressive people on Earth - even after Islam!

    • by flyneye (84093)

      Well, any recreation is a spoof, so, you can see why recreating the historical life of Mohammed by that Fundamental Christian group, pissed them off so precisely.
      Whether there was any actual historical fact or not got obscured in the politically correct clusterfuck that ensued. Seems open discussion and tolerance take a back seat to political aspiration and zealotry. Progressive? Civilized? No one in this story has achieved that yet. Might as well calculate by stones and absence of stones.
      I look out my wind

  • by mrchaotica (681592) * on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @01:12PM (#45776331)

    As an American, it's hard to criticize Dubai when kids in the US getting expelled from school and/or arrested over the content of their jokes or writing assignments.

    • by Baloroth (2370816) on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @01:21PM (#45776389)

      As an American, it's hard to criticize Dubai when kids in the US getting expelled from school and/or arrested over the content of their jokes or writing assignments.

      No, it's still very easy to criticize. Just make sure you criticize everyone who acts like that.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      That is something good to point out. As a US citizen, part of our duty is to bring stuff about a kid getting expelled for a pop-tart eaten in an "L" shape and let it be known as unacceptable.

      Injustice has no borders. It is just as wrong to toss some kids in the UAE in jail for showing off some ballin' as it is to have a kid expelled for something stated on Facebook criticizing a teacher or admin.

    • by jklovanc (1603149) on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @01:34PM (#45776491)

      There is a major difference between a couple of days off school and 8 months in prison and a permanent criminal record. Yes there have been some questionable arrests but I have yet to see convictions and prison sentences in the US.

      Any country that can not take a little criticism of their youth really needs to take a hard look at themselves. The only way to change bad things is to first admit they are happening.

      • by OzPeter (195038)

        There is a major difference between a couple of days off school and 8 months in prison and a permanent criminal record.

        The OP was basically referring to the joke's punchline of Now we are just haggling over the price

        • by jklovanc (1603149)

          A couple of days of school says "you might want to think about that" while 8 months in prison says "we will ruin your life".

          • 8 months in prison says "we will ruin your life".

            Maybe somewhere else, but probably not in Dubai. No Dubaians work in Dubai. Foreigners do all the work. All Dubaians live off the state oil revenues.

            What did those guys do before prison? Probably nothing. What will they do after their prison time? Probably more of the same.

            Dubai is famous for its lavish 5-star hotels . . . maybe even their prisons have 5 stars, and armies of foreign servants . . . ?

      • by AK Marc (707885) on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @01:42PM (#45776573)
        Having moved out of the US, I'm surprised at the lack of punishment for criminals. In the US, a criminal conviction is often a lifetime sentence, jobs, houses, and such are harder to come by. But in other parts of the globe, a prison sentence is "time served" and when you are out, you are treated like a regular person, so long as the criminal conviction isn't about something you are trying to do (i.e. a conviction for sexual assault of a minor or whatever will hurt your chances of being an elementary school teacher, but probably not a university teacher, and fraud conviction will hurt your chances of being CFO, but probably not COO).

        So don't generalize the US "a criminal conviction is a life-long sentence" attitude to the rest of the world. It might not apply.
      • for poor inner city kids in this country. Several states have enacted laws that more or less allow for arresting teens because they are deemed uncooperative by a teacher. google the school to prison pipeline and see for yourself.
    • by Anonymous Coward

      Maybe you'd be more objective if you didn't constantly see the US as being the center of absolutely everything that happens.

  • by paiute (550198) on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @01:18PM (#45776363)
    These guys have to keep a paranoid, choking control on the people. Oil-filthy-rich nations in the region have to be praying that no organization whose initials are AQ would have the brilliant idea to take them over instead of wasting their time bombing malls and the streets outside embassies. I mean, how much effort would it take to overthrow Dubai? About as much as it would take to assume control of the Cleveland Rotary Club, maybe?
    • Did Youtube hand over the IP Address?
    • by AK Marc (707885) on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @01:44PM (#45776593)
      Don't they have more working immigrants than citizens now? If there were unrest, they'd have no way to keep control. It's more like Apartheid than anything else there. There are two classes, Citizens, and others. And the citizens live large (and silly) while the others do all the real work to keep it going.
      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward

        well, the way they keep control is...

        guns. they don't buy guns to fight a war against iran or whoever. at least in apartheid they let the oppressed fuck with each other as they liked..

        posting anon because a big part of the problem is the western companies who do the white collar work so even posting shit about dubai could get shit on someone due to that. but the fucks would be in SO BIG FUCKING DOODOO if they were put under even half as bad sanctions as south africa were - because they don't know even how t

      • by tibman (623933)

        Kuwait was like that. The entire workforce was foreigners. BestBuys,Starbucks, and mansions in the middle of the desert. I saw several totaled luxury SUVs sitting on the side of highways. Guessing there was a wreck and instead of getting it repaired or dealing with it they just bought another. Not knocking them, just my observations.

    • by Whorhay (1319089)

      I wouldn't go so far as to say that it couldn't happen but the UAE is ruled by a Monarchy. That is a real Monarchy, not the celebrity heads of state that the UK has. There is a king and his word is law, his family owns the biggest businesses, commands the military and picks and chooses economic winners and losers. The UAE is to poor third world countries what the USA is to Mexico and various other poor countries of the Americas. The UAE hasn't had much terrorist hostilities because a previous king threatene

  • Weeks old. Yes, it's important. But sheesh, it was news several weeks ago, now it's just a really lame, stale, old dupe.

    • by Anonymous Coward
      /. isn't about breaking news it's more about the discussion and community. If you want breaking headlines then go to Drudge or Google News or some other hard news aggregator, not /.
    • They were sentenced on Monday. Pretty sure Monday morning in Dubai was about a day and a half ago. They were first arrested "several weeks ago", yes but the actual disposition of the case is significant news. I guess you're the sort of reality TV viewer who gets all stirred up by some barely newsworthy event then just as quickly gets distracted by whatever the new outrage of the day is and forgets all about what he was upset about the day before. I wouldn't be proud of that if I were you, but rather ashamed
      • by sribe (304414)

        They were sentenced on Monday. Pretty sure Monday morning in Dubai was about a day and a half ago. They were first arrested "several weeks ago", yes but the actual disposition of the case is significant news.

        And the summary makes no mention whatsoever that they have now been sentenced.

        I guess you're the sort of reality TV viewer who gets all stirred up by some barely newsworthy event then just as quickly gets distracted by whatever the new outrage of the day is and forgets all about what he was upset about the day before. I wouldn't be proud of that if I were you, but rather ashamed.

        No, I'm the kind of busy person who expects a fucking decent summary that doesn't make me work to figure out what's the news it's trying to communicate ;-)

        • And the summary makes no mention whatsoever that they have now been sentenced.

          The phrase "has been imprisoned" implies such. For confirmation you could have clicked that phrase, which is a link, and seen that information in both the headline and the very first sentence. The summaries are often shitty, but that's not an excuse for ignorance on anyone else's part.

          No, I'm the kind of busy person who expects a fucking decent summary that doesn't make me work to figure out what's the news it's trying to communicate ;-)

          You're such a "busy person" that you have plenty of time to whine about it though? This is a discussion forum, not a news aggregator. If you don't have time to read and understand the topic before you post, then go away. This

          • by sribe (304414)

            The phrase "has been imprisoned" implies such.

            No, it most certainly does not. One can be imprisoned for years, decades even, while awaiting trial...

      • Not so. Monday morning in Dubai was two hundred years ago. That is, however, still several centuries ahead of Saudi.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @01:22PM (#45776391)

    A state security court found them guilty of "defaming the UAE society's image abroad", according to the state-owned newspaper, The National.

    Does anyone else find it funny that this arrest is "defaming the UAE society's image abroad" much more than the video ever would?

  • Take care of your own house first before you complain about the actions of your neighbors.

    The USA has plenty to feel guilty about. Stories like this tend to emphasize injustices elsewhere in the world, and IGNORE that these same injustices may be happening at home, but are under-reported.

    • by AK Marc (707885)
      I've complained about my house first. I just can't do anything about it. So I'm not allowed to criticize anyone doing wrong until the rest of the US wakes up and joins me in criticizing the USA? You sound like an anti-speech censor, not a voice of reason and moderation.
    • by WaffleMonster (969671) on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @02:01PM (#45776705)

      Take care of your own house first before you complain about the actions of your neighbors.

      Why does each task need to be executed sequentially rather than concurrently? Is there a hidden dependency forbidding concurrent execution?

      The USA has plenty to feel guilty about. Stories like this tend to emphasize injustices elsewhere in the world, and IGNORE that these same injustices may be happening at home, but are under-reported.

      Smells like "Buuut Mommmmy ... Jonny did it toooo"

    • by Anonymous Coward

      "Your house?" The second person pronoun suggests you are not an American. By your own logic, you shouldn't complain about our ways and focus on your own problems.

  • Streisand effect ? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Alain Williams (2972) <addw@phcomp.co.uk> on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @01:33PM (#45776479) Homepage

    I would never have seen this video if they had not been tried in a kangaroo court. What makes Dubai a laughing stock, the video or the prison sentences ?

  • by WaffleMonster (969671) on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @01:36PM (#45776517)

    Dubai's reaction generated more bad press for themselves and significantly enhanced viewership of a YouTube video nobody should waste their time watching...

    Keep up the good work Dubai.

    • Yes, but how many more people will think twice about making any kind of satire that makes fun of the kingdom when they see how even such a mild video gets you a jail sentence? That's what it's about.

  • That's like going to jail over making 'Howard the Duck'.
  • Halliburton (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Princeofcups (150855) <john@princeofcups.com> on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @02:01PM (#45776709) Homepage

    No wonder Cheney moved Halliburton to Dubai. After 8 years in office, this is what he always wanted the US to be.

  • We should all take notice of this but, Lonely Island, you should take special note. It the authorities in this country are not going to punish you for your crimes against good taste, we will find a way to get you to the UAE.

  • by bunyip (17018) on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @02:53PM (#45777085)

    Don't ever confuse Dubai with an open and modern society. It's a monarchy that needs to hold onto power and does not toerate criticism or free speech of any kind. They walk a fine line between the glamour of business, yet holding onto traditional values and conservatism.

    It's also illegal to kiss in public, even for a married couple. People have been arrested, imprisoned and deported for such indecency.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by Anonymous Coward

      such indecency!

      I hear the males over there are so utterly without any form of willpower that so much as seeing any display of affection, or even the slightest hint of female flesh, that they are completely unable to hold themselves back from from raping the female to within an inch of her life. Once that inch is reached, their society murders her for the crime of being raped. Its all her fault remember.

      This is why females have to hide under a burka, so as not to provide even the slightest hint of femininity

  • by fahrbot-bot (874524) on Tuesday December 24, 2013 @03:50PM (#45777559)

    a gentle satire on young men in the Satwa residential suburb of Dubai who adopt a 'gangsta' pose despite living the sedate, prosperous lifestyle

    This could apply to just about any Rap / Hip hop artist - or Miley Cyrus. Just sayin' ...

    Maybe we need a new genre - Suburban Gangsta - with minivans and shit.

  • Dubai human rights (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward

    Dubai ranked better in human rights than the USA in 2013. We jail kids for making paper mÃché guns.

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